MisterrSingh

I find venturing into conspiracy territory does more harm than good. That's not to say I don't believe there are great truths being withheld from humanity for various reasons, but most people are so heavily invested in the way things are, you lose any semblance of connection and common ground by broaching what may seem ludicrous and unrealistic.

To realise at least a little of the chess match being played with your lives, there's no need to broach the mystical. Just open up any international major news website or similar resource, and gauge what underlying message is being promoted under the guise of informing the populace. Do it regularly with a harshly critical and unforgiving eye, and you'll eventually detect patterns, which then leads to being capable of almost predicting what's yet to occur. That's no feat of occultism; it's just common sense and an ability to discern trends.

8. In advertising, but also in general entertainment such as situational comedy, the father is often portrayed as an incompetent, out of touch, absent minded, or generally dim individual dominated by the feminine energy in the household. He's a figure of derision to varying degrees whose main purpose is to symbolise a demoralised and confused male in a world that values men for nothing but what they provide for their dependents in a material sense. 

On the other hand the mother is shown to be a wise, level-headed, well-organised general who ensures the family unit is kept ticking along as she merrily runs around putting out figurative fires or preventing any from taking place. 

In recent times, advertising and certain entertainment formats depart from this template of portraying adult males in this manner only when it's implied that the man in question is homosexual. 

38 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Tha phrase 'kiss my A' is indicative of the rite that witches and lucerifrians go through to be initiated into devil worship, also being sodomised and the eating of bista, basically humiliating the person to lowest level . Talmudic writing maintain that the paedophilic male does not commit a sin ,that a child is fair game even babies it is sickness. kabbalistic and talmudic rituals cross over to the dark side.

Yes, absolutely. Ironically, the contemporary champions of the LGBT movement, who seem to determined for it to pass into mainstream acceptability, also derive their key organisational figureheads from those same tribes. Which group was responsible for the writings of the Old Testament?

3 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Unlike Bible and Quran both who have several verses describing how god destroyed sodom and gomorrah because of their homosexuality and how prophet Lot failed to warn them . All such nonsensical stories are absent in Sikhism. The entire homophobia thing was conceived by abrahamic religions and they maintain it pretty well ! although I would say reformist jews have kind of been more accepting. and several churches also are now lgbt.

Luciferianism is also incredibly embracing of homosexuality as well as paedophilia. In fact, it's considered a key element of some sects' worship where sex magick rites are performed. 

"Please watch with an open mind."

Don't open it too much because your brain might fall out. 

7. The default "Asian" ethnic representation (in the UK and American productions) over the past few years in most forms of visual entertainment is a Muslim character. They are gradually becoming the shorthand for ethnic presence.

4 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

I also understand there's selective vilification of the power-holders during the WW2. Hitler is demonized and for good reasons, but churchill was just as bad if not more . Its just that his ways of mass murder were more indirect , for eg: withholding wheat supplies when bengal was undergoing famine , that led to unnecessary suffering , which I reckon he could have easily avoided. Perhaps his count of murders were less than hitler, but since UK was among the "allies" and not the "axis" , its only the nazis who're vilified today, not US which dropped  nuclear bombs over japan. Hence, history is not so simple, but some things are universally true ,for instance, hitler and his party were psychopaths . 

Its surprising , similar sentiments brew from time to time in europe, prominently in UK with parties like UKIP,  EDL and the like who "if" they manage to have a similar environment during the wars which could give them absolute power , then I won't be surprised they would be doing same things to muslims that nazis did to jews. Having said that , it is responsibility of muslims too to shed their kaafirophobia. 

Churchill was an SOB. He presided over the death of millions of -- at the time -- Indians. It's mind-bending to observe the reverence with which he's held in Britain. Anyone who mentions his past actions is slandered as a Far-Left agitator or whatever. It's dishonesty. There's no other way of explaining it. History is kind to the victors. Lesson? Always go for the win!

12 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Well, what else? I mean we have the food thing pretty well covered with langar. 

Help with doing your taxes at the end of the fiscal year?

Help with kakkars at work? I think we have Sikh Coalition and such for that.

Anything else? I do think marriage counseling is a big one.

My lunch break is nearly over. I'll give you a detailed reply when I get home in the evening. I do think you're deliberately choosing not to see the bigger picture I'm illustrating by reducing the argument to a low-level, two dimensional view of the problems. I think you're well aware of my intent, but for some reason you're determined to reduce my arguments to a simplistic, contrarian viewpoint that ultimately preserves a status quo that is doing visible and active damage to our people and our ways. If, however, you truly aren't able to comprehend the meaning and intent behind my ideas, I don't know where to begin to help you understand, because the accumlative sum of my thoughts on these issues in turn originate from years of contemplation, analysis that has resulted in hundreds of diverse and multi-faceted impressions that rely on perquisite knowledge that can't be condensed into bite size explanations without losing the detailed complexity to do those ideas justice. I could try and spoon feed you but it would be incredibly frustrating because I sense you aren't receptive to the ideas I'm proposing. I'm not sure whether you're playing Devil's Advocate or whether you honestly believe everything is fine as it is. 

30 minutes ago, BhForce said:

As for the physical needs, I agree that bodieshave physical needs. But is that something to be addressed from the stage? Stuff like helping young people with their college applications, job search, etc., is something that Sikhs are beginning to do, but Gianis aren't supposed to do that, right?

What's stopping them from relating Sikh spiritual guidance to the social and political ills of our everyday lives? How to protect oneself from the onslaught of physical, everyday forces that wears down the individual's spiritual defences? An awareness of transient political chicanery and manoeuvring designed to undermine our culture's and religion's positive conservative values of respect, honour, restraint, and decency? An awareness and admission that other faiths are drawing away Sikhs to the ranks of other religions, and how to resist such openly hostile actions? These issues and many more can be directly related to Sikh teachings and Sikh history. Why the reluctance to use the past as an indicator of what's yet to occur? The signs are there. Why do these apparently educated and enlightened people not see it?

You honestly assumed I was referring to filling in application forms? Do you find me mentally retarded or do you not think much of my contributions?

30 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Like the Dalai Lama, "His Holiness"?

Not quite. 

I'm referring to the kind of individuals in our community who put on a performance by imitating the demeanour, mannerisms, and bearing of genuine Sikh personalities who've earned their spiritual spurs. Most of us have encountered the imitators: the heavy-lidded, contemplative glance as if they've emerged from a spiritual trance; the slow, deliberate drawl as they speak as if they're channelling ethereal knowledge from the Beyond. Clowns in their 20s and 30s play acting at sainthood. It's funny to see these frauds hoodwink so many impressionable souls. 

30 minutes ago, BhForce said:

I think what you're saying is that what needs to be said in the Gurdwara is what they don't say in the Gurdwara.

Yes. 

38 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Do some research,  dare I say lol

3 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

LOL, you people are obsessed with jews lately ! 

Nobody mentioned Jewry in the pejorative. Why did you leap to that conclusion?

As to the rest of your points regarding the current state of Europe and the legacy of WW2 as it relates to contemporary society, with all due respect you don't know what you're talking about. Honestly, WW2 is something I've been reading up on since I attended school -- and continue to do so to this very day -- and I'm still learning something new regarding that period of history. I hope you don't feel as if I'm being an a55, but you're genuinely out of your depth on this one. 

Overall, Scholl is praiseworthy. I was just pulling your leg, lol.

Verifiable sources? I ask because...

The myth-making stemming from World War II narratives is an industry in itself. You'd be surprised at the depths some would stoop in order to perpetuate fiction or half truth until it passes into unassailable fact.

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yeah, you ever consider that some (or perhaps many) of the puratan Singhs who fought might have also been biologically wired that way too?

Not every Sikh is cut out for it maybe? 

 

http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/18843-guru-gobind-singh-jis-advice-to-rai-singh-from-chaupa-singh-rehatnama/

Very interesting. It's something I've long suspected on an instinctive level. This age, and for the foreseeable future, is one where we need the Rai Singhs to step up and make some moves. The time for the berserker Singhs will come again eventually. In the meantime I think the general idea of cultivating a well-rounded mentality that functions between the opposite ideals of the Saint and the Soldier is a good way to exist in this age when we seem to be existing in a strangely stagnant yet unpredictably hostile period where anything could happen at any time. Based on the advice from Guru Sahib in the above rehatnama, they seem to be alluding to the idea that so-called thinkers fall into the mistake of arrogantly intellectualising and moralising certain deeds and acts during times of desperation when what's actually needed is the will to fight and win. That line about Sikhs falling to prey to affection for materialism, be it physical and emotional, seems to be the current state of things. 

On 6/25/2019 at 6:17 PM, Redoptics said:

Stick to learning about Sidh Gosht 

Who's this Sidney Ghose chap? 

On 6/27/2019 at 11:15 AM, Guest I_Kaur said:

I think, especially our younger generations are struggling because the religious leaders, Prachars and even the Giyani's themselves are shying away from the onslaught, almost in fear of confronting them and retaliating with knowledge and wisdom. There must be a reason why our people in general stay out of debates and dialogues. You ever go to the Hyde Park speakers corner, you will never see our people in the 'intellectual battle' but passers by and mere audience, and over time, they will move from nodding their heads to actually joining them. I have seen with my own eyes, young Sikh's becoming islamics... It's good saying it's a battle, but where is the "arm yourself with knowledge" and tackling the attack. It's these young guys now, but soon it'll be reaching every home. Look at the number of white girls and boys who fell for the trap. If the chrisrtians and especially the dawah gangs aren't challenged, things are about to get worse!

I'm glad you mentioned this aspect of it. The Gianis and others with the apparent knowledge are out of touch with the issues facing Sikhs on a social level. It's preaching to the converted most of the times, and even then it has very little impact. In the West there's a slight difference where English speaking parchaar is conducted by individuals who use the exact same approach as their Indian counterparts; there's an unfortunate aspect of a performance occuring instead of a honest and direct dialogue. You see these individuals who develop a following behave as if they exist on an ethereal plane of serenity above and separate from the rest of us cattle. They're more concerned with trying to imitate or create an image of an enlightened holy being than actually impart something practical and useful. It's all incredibly abstract and non-committal designed to trap someone in a cycle of action that will keep them busy in the belief that if results are not yielded they must be doing something wrong rather than provide them with a direct way out of the ills plaguing them.

Plus, as you mentioned, the Gianis and Parcharaks are politically and socially ignorant to the point where I seriously believe they're being instructed by certain parties as to not politicise and inform the sangat of certain ground realities. When one's roti and income is largely dictated by the words spoken by that individual, only someone with immense principles and a disregard for the grave consequences of speaking out would reject any form of control. When such individuals are as dependent on the status quo as the average man, you aren't going to see these people upset the apple cart and potentially cause problems for themselves whereby they won't be allowed to work. They will circle on the periphery of what's acceptable and safe to impart, but they will never truly cross the line into radical specifics.

The assumption is that if Sikhs yearning religious instruction are informed of how to function on the spiritual, abstract level, then automatically all their problems will disappear because they've been taught to bypass physical levels which is apparently where most of our problems as human beings originate from. In theory it is an approach that seems to be sensible, but unfortunately we are physical beings composed of physical matter with physical committments living in a physical world, interacting with other physical components of the universe. Pretending as if those physicalities are irrelevant by leaping straight to the higher stages of being is like trying to teach a child quantum physics without bothering to educate him on the alphabet. It's completely backwards. I'm not surprised contemporary Sikhs of the younger generations can't relate to their religion. People are more than willing to undertake the journey towards seeking knowledge, but if the teachers appear in no better situation than the people they're supposed to enlighten, then what message does that truly send? The Judeo-Christian approach is afforded the benefit of the doubt due to its proliferation in nearly every aspect of life, plus the duration it's been in existence apparently lends it a form of credibility and integrity as something worth following or at least entertaining the possibility as to its credentials. Sikhi doesn't possess that unspoken cultural "scaffolding" or backbone because we can't point to Sikh values being used to propagate a state, a country, or even a thriving society in the modern world. A historically distant Sikh empire means little to people of the modern age. In the eyes of certain individuals who place the value of a doctrine or a message in how it's physically enriched lives and states of being, Sikhi seems unfortunately lacking. That's our fault, and not a reflection of the message itself.

11 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I'm wondering with all this Brexit vibe (taken in the totally wrong way by some racist white people, like it is the beginning of some white uprising), is going to make more fools feel like it is okay to publically intimidate ethnics - when they feel the odds are in their favour? I say this as someone who has family members who voted for Brexit because they felt the funds being sent to the EU where better spent here - rather than some racist resentment.  

Until they reveal something to the contrary I'm assuming this wasn't a case of Brexit emboldening a previously closeted bigot, but rather a gullible middle class white professional who's bought the, "Everyone is the same underneath!" social propaganda. This is what happens when you allow your natural survival instincts to be dulled to the point where you not only enter a precarious social situation by relying on the fundamental decency of the opposing party to not misbehave BUT also the belief that everyone can be "reached" through civil discourse and reason. Before the guy was stabbed (when they were talking face to face in the second carriage), they both seemed to be having a conversation that wasn't animated or remotely threatening. The perpetrator suddenly flipped a switch.

Anyone who hasn't bought into the rainbows and unicorns outlook on life would know when to minimise a potential problem by creating as much distance between the potential threat and themselves. Those with street smarts and experience of the darker side of life develop a sense that alerts them to such situation; those who have never been in those situations and faced adversity are oblivious to such things and judge the world by their own standards, and that's a fatal mistake. The victim seemed to be trying to "reach" the other guy almost as if he was trying to heal or counsell the guy! That's madness, and ultimately it's a result of, as I mentioned, a dangerous philosophy that preys on the human desire to be seen as benevolent, forgiving, etc., which isn't something to be scoffed at, but goodness me, there's a time and a place for it. 

23 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

This I don't get? 

Chasing someone through a train (yes, literally chasing, the black guy was trying to get away and moved to another carriage),  and not expecting trouble. 

I wonder if he was trying to show off in front of his son? 

Shame how it all ended. 

I saw the CCTV footage on the news prior to it ending due to the killing itself, and I have to say the victim seemed to be unnecessarily confrontational in terms of being in the personal space of the attacker. Why he followed him into the next carriage I don't understand. I don't think he had any experience of knowing when to step the hell back and maintain a distance so there's a chance of seeing someone winding up to launch an attack. A slightly overweight IT consultant with some height + not wanting to lose face in front of his young son = a life lost. He misjudged it and overestimated himself. It doesn't excuse the savagery of the killer, but ego and pride contributed to a desperately sad situation.

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

Which Sikh boy is that, exactly?

I was wondering the same thing. Look where?

It's happening in regards to youngsters being drawn to Christianity, too. I see it quite regularly on places like YouTube. Phrases like, "My parents follow Sikhism but I don't understand it" or words to that affect. Then you see the usual Christian patter of, "Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour," or the person in question is charmed with soothing and admittedly comforting ideas that are designed to work on someone who has very little idea of their own history.

What I've learned in the past year or do in regards to so-called interfaith cordiality: we're at war with these people, Muslims, Christians, whatever. There's no room for tolerance or weakness, because like on the wilds of the African savannah, these predatory faiths will hone in on stragglers and consume them, and we seem to be producing nothing but stragglers. This fantasy that's peddled of Sikh tolerance and acceptance is purposefully designed to undermine and weaken us. Why? Because when you tolerate everything, you stand against nothing! And with the direction in which the world is heading, there'll need to be a drawing of lines. 

The problems at our end are multifold. Most of our burdens are self inflicted. There's no avoiding the issue. We cannot always behave as if we've fallen victim to some conspiracy that's been hatched against us. The enemies within allow the enemies outside to gain a foothold. 

21 hours ago, Guest jigsaw_puzzled_singh said:

Proceed with what ?    On a thread about '$h!t that white people do' I've pointed out how they view white lives as special but brown/black lives as dispensable/worthless. That's something that white people do.....so I don't understand what you're trying to tell me MisterSingh. Are you saying I should have posted my message about $h1t that white people do on a different thread devoted to an entirely different subject matter ?   Really don't understand what you're trying to tell me mate  and what you'd like me to 'proceed' with. This is all very confusing 

I assumed the death of a Sikh child would be enough to get the ball rolling on some sort of awareness campaign that highlighted the inhumanity of American immigration. With your connections and status I thought you may have had a plan to get to grips with this issue. 

Not a problem. The flu lasts 5 days at most; a week at worst. No need to plan a timetable without Nitnem. If a person can stare at a smartphone all day when supposedly ill, Nitnem shouldn't be an issue when the effects begin to recede. Get back on the wagon.

Another one to add to the list of things white people do:

On 6/22/2019 at 12:33 AM, Guest Jigsaw_Puzzled_Singh said:

$H1T THAT WHITE PEOPLE DO NUMBER 58:

Look after their own. Care for their own.

They look after their own. We use the misfortune of our own for our own benefit. White British hurts his thumb while on a foreign trip to Mexico and it gets on the news. White American gets his mobile phone and luggage lost whilst he was 4 miles from a terrorist attack in Paris and it gets on CBS news. 6 year old Sikh girl dies in the hot baking desert and none of you care. 3 days have gone by since I posted the circumstances of her death and not one of you have cared. Instead, you've wanted to talk about transvestities and what you think is too much gay rights. Little white girl dies or goes missing (Madeline McCann) and a billion dollars gets spent on investigations. A little Sikh girl dies in the heat of the American desert only because the people that wanted to leave her some water were not allowed to leave her some water and nobody cares. 

And here...on this Sikh forum...where they want to blame Indra Gandhi for not caring....Parkash Badal for not caring...Captain sahib for not caring....nobody cares that a little Sikh girl lay dead because they wanted to post messages about transvestites and gay rights. When you actually genuinely give the tiniest of $h1ts about your own people you know you are well and truly white.

 

Why are you awaiting a consensus or permission to proceed? Your profile as a published author would surely open doors to places and people that would remain firmly shut to the rabble on this forum. Use your contacts in the press and publishing industry to get the ball rolling. Good luck.

Interesting. I wonder what the actual reason is for the BBC to publicise these findings. Disarming perceptions? Galvanising Islamic resolve? Curious.