MisterrSingh

Dating is NOT Sikh I agree but as I am currently discussing with my lads 'how do you get to know a girl without dating?' . I have suggested observation in natural situations like in amongst her friends: the interaction, the type of friends , the amount of Sikhi , The observed/heard views of her and her friends . you got any more ?

Stroke one's moustache menancingly, forcibly curling the ends upwards, all the while not breaking eye contact with the girl in question. Intersperse the above with the occasional one-handed beard stroke. That's usually a great way of letting a girl know she's caught the eye.

kids are kids not parents ...kids need guidelines and boundaries to function. My Mum's ones were policed by 'the look'.

Haha, I don't remember much about my father, but what I do remember is when he use to "give me the eyes" lol, when I was perhaps not behaving in a manner he expected. That was enough for me! But, yeah, there was a line and it was never breached. I never considered my parents pendus or anything like that just because I was foreign born and they were from back home. They had wisdom and knew things about life and so much else that evey decision they made was beneficial not only short term but long term. I wasn't promoted to a deputy just because I was UK born, lol. I knew my place and that was fine by me.

What's happened now though is that people are paranoid as heck - and for understandable reasons too. Especially if you're in a sullah dominated area. As a consequence it's hard not to be (possibly overly) protective of girls.

I forget there's situations where Sikhs live in predominantly Muslims areas. Fair point.

In a way the current crop of young parents are very hands on with their kids, which is great, but as we know that active level of involvement leaves very little room for engaging in Sikhi. I've observed kids from Sikh families who haven't been told anything about their religion, react to other Sikh kids with jooreh, etc, like how white kids use to react to us when we were kids. As a bystander that's a terribly depressing situation to observe, and an indictment on the minds of certain Sikhs my age who have, to all intents and purposes, decided religion is an irrelevance not worth bothering their kids with.

What Jkv bhenji mentioned a few pages ago about valuing girls as much as boys is essential in issues such as these. Of course, some take it to the extreme and let their children become mini dictators and actually consult the child in major household decisions (unheard of a few years ago), but that's crazy as it sends the wrong signals to a child that his or her parents are clueless. Nurture and include female children as you would males. It sounds like something not even worth mentioning.

Girls heads are filled with Bollywood love stories where the partner is not the same faith and then they have a big blowout with their families and then abandon them for the guy. any wonder that this is modelled in real life

They see such behaviour as a badge of honour, almost as the ultimate sacrifice. Sikh guys do it too, let's not knock girls exclusively. There's enough stories of Sikh guys that have abandoned their families for the "love of their life." For obvious reasons (the female being the honour of her family, etc) when a girl does it it becomes a huge spectacle.

With a lot of girls there is a strategy of going for bad boys when they are younger and when they get older and want to settle down they go for good boys.

The safe provider. There's a lot of overweight, average-looking yet wealthy Sikh guys (either independently rich due to a lucrative career or because daddy has a few businesses) that think they've struck gold when they end up marrying said type of girl. They're under all sorts of illusions.

What I find strange is that feminists and the left are strangely silent on this particular phonenomen.

They protest about everything else from sexual harassment, the glass ceiling, the pay gap, female infanticide, female genetic mutilation but not this.

How come they stand against misogyny but when there is this blatant misogyny from real misogynists they keep shtum.

Fear.

Fear of physical reprisals or fear of being branded as prejudiced.

Every generation thinks it's the first to break the rules and rebel, pushing boundaries, and doing what nobody has done before. In actuality it's all been done before. Times change, people don't.

Someone once said, "A wise man learns from history, a fool learns from experience." If Sikhs are any indication we are packed to the rafters with fools that don't want to be told. As much as if hurts, sometimes you've just got to step back and let people make mistakes. If someone refuses to understand with a loving and conciliatory approach, then let them go and make their mistakes. The pain of falling will open their eyes.

A laudable gesture and one with precedence in Sikh history. But wholly unnecessary in this modern era.

There's billions of petro-dollars that could've been used to fund the construction of this mosque, originating from many hundreds of millions of Muslims who could've contributed to the project.

Yet time and time again we are shown to be either completely bemukh and ignorant of our own ways, OR we go in the opposite direction and are so willing to please others we are unable to step back and look at the bigger picture.

It is these kind of acts certain Muslims use to pick off stragglers from the Sikh faith and entice them to their own camp. They say, "Your lot are building mosques for us. We are one and the same." Then we wonder why our people are unable to provide an adequate rebuttal... because there is none in this type of situation!

I applaud the Sikh's sharda and prem for his fellow man. Meanwhile in the gritty and occasional unpleasantness of everyday life where such gestures carry certain connotations beyond love and togetherness; where life is not a beautiful fairy-tale and we aren't dwelling in Satyug, this was completely inappropriate and wrong.

Apologies if I've offended anyone.

...but you have to trust Guru ji to do sodhna of those people.

I hope you're right.

The other side is very rarely heard in these situations, in terms of why certain things happened. It's an eye opener.

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Is there still a disproportionate number of Sikhs joining the Indian armed forces?

So they're basically just oppurtunists... If they're fleeing for safety, then they should have no problem going to Qatar or Turkey (both of which are stable nations), and going back to Syria once peace returns. You know, considering safety is their biggest priority.

Apparently hundreds of these refugees tried attacking Greek officials too? Lmao. Ungrateful scum.

I wouldn't be that cynical, but there must be elements that are using the genuine refugees as cover. But, yep, I do wonder why the Saudis or other wealthy Middle East countries don't open their borders and welcome their co-religionists. They probably think the west created this mess, so they should be responsible for the fallout.

By that logic then Qatar and Turkey should be taking in just as many refugees, if not more. Its not just the USA thats the bad guy in the Middle East, I'd say Muslims are their own worst enemy in the middle east.

The appeal of Europe and all the requisite benefits of western civilisation are no match for Qatar and, to a lesser extent, Turkey. Why would someone who has the chance to settle in Germany opt for Qatar if there was a choice? Refugees want safety from the horrors they're escaping. Their number one priority is to survive; a migrant is a lot more pragmatic.

A friend of mine follows someone called DadaBhagwan he is a hindu and hes published books. Ive read one of his books it is on celibacy obviously maharaj calls this outdated in bani saying Kal Meh Keerat Har Naama but have a read it talks a lot about how to deal with kaami energy and gives a 3 step vision when you get kaam. Look at the person, imagine their insides i.e. the gandh inside them and then lastly imagine the soul thats where Guru Maharaj resides and then try and see if kaam attacks you. It wont.

That's fascinating and a bit strange, because I've never heard of this person or read that book, but that's quite similar to the kind of method I used. Very strange indeed.

Some Australians are... I think the official term is 'bogan.'

Yep, I think Victoria's marriage to her cousin Albert was love instead of arranged.

Queen Victoria?