MisterrSingh

Good friend of mine and a very good rep, Chris Finch, IQ of 142. One of the cleverest blokes I know. He was in an argument once and he went, "How can I hate women? My mum's one."

There's a lot of truth in that. That's why when I hear about sexism i feel it offends women. And our mums. In a way. It's sexist, and I hate that.

So much potential for laughs in this thread, but I'm not in the right mood to wind up any of our sisters on this website, lol.

We as Sikhs for the most part have an instinctive understanding of Muslims that other communities do not have.

Though there are sections of the indigenous white communities that can see this as well.

If these were mainly Christian refugees, the reality a lot of EU countries would be far more willing to accommodate. The likes of Slovakia also said they would only be willing to take Christian refugees. The Hungarian Prime minister even said that the Syrian influx undermines the Christian roots of Europe.

When Sikhs in the 90's tried telling the authorities about certain issues pertaining to the grooming and sexual abuse of individuals at the hands of a minority of Muslims, we were shouted down for being racist and talked down as if we were simpletons. Now in recent years the true horror has emerged of what transpired, the establishment behave as if it's a monumental surprise.

Fools, absolute fools. They never see it coming until it's at the end of their nose. The Left ties itself into knots in denial, crippled by political correctness and moral cowardice, whilst the opportunistic Right seizes upon the same events to use for fuel for their hate-filled agenda against all minorities. Leave them to it; detach yourselves from these unprincipled people, and seek the support of the Guru. Nothing else is of importance and nobody else will show us the Truth.

And with the rise of the Right, there'll likely be an increase in anti-Muslim hate. That itself will cause Muslims to feel even more ostracized, and will probably precipitate an increase in radical Islam (as in France). When the political right burgeons yet again in response to this, the left wing, from centre-left to far left, will collectively p*ss itself with fear and begin the process of consolidation beneath the aegis of its more hardline entities.

Of course the most practical way to prevent this polarization of politics from occurring would be to refuse entry to the migrants or to impose a cap on their numbers. But would that be the decent thing to do?

We're in a very difficult and foreboding situation here, having to reconcile basic human kindness with foresight, practicality and intellect.

The above in bold is the crux of the issue without a doubt. With us being the children of immigrants (or the grandchildren of immigrants, etc, in some cases) it's incredibly hypocritical to now posture on the sidelines as if it's a 'them and us' situation, because not very long ago we were 'them' albeit we weren't escaping the horrors of war or things of that nature.

It's about trying to reconcile thoughts of keeping in touch with our humanity for the genuinely stricken and desperate, and not develop a cruel aloofness in the face of someone's suffering VS a valid concern for the society and the culture we live in - various layers of culture when it comes to us - and concerns for the kind of world that will emerge once these events have played out over the course of years and decades.

Then there's the Muslim issue, and as Sikhs it will always be lingering in the back of the mind, that nagging thought of being a minority amongst a Muslim majority - even though they themselves will be a minority in a foreign country - that will begin to assert its superior numbers once they have their feet under the table so to speak. That's not paranoia, it's the way societies and humans, and Muslims in particular, operate when they grow in numbers.

I have a feeling what we are observing now will have far-reaching consequences for Europe. It may shape the decades to come. There's a nagging feeling in me that tells me something is a bit off; like we're being played somehow by those at the top, but I can't put my finger on what. I don't know, I'm not psychic, lol, we'll see.

But it's impossible to remain unmoved by the plight of refugees who just want the best for their families, away from the fear of death and destruction. At the moment that's what it boils down to, for me at least.

If they are genuine refugees then there is no problem. However, there is going to be economic migrants intermingled in there and there will probably be ISIS guys in there too.

Normally with refugees you see men,women and children but when you see predominantly young men like in Calais it makes you wonder.

Reading hostile comments underneath articles on this crisis from, I imagine, white people I can easily foresee a situation where there will be a shocking rise of the Far Right across Europe in our lifetimes, especially if some of these individuals seeking refuge turn out to be of the militant variety in decades to come. In a way it is inevitable. But, as always, the decent and honest will be tarred with same brush due to the actions of a few bad apples.

As Sikhs our number one priority should be with the refugees who are escaping war and other issues instigated by marauding Western ambition. Don't let your compassion for the poor and the lost fall by the wayside. And, yes, I feel the same sadness for the poor in this country. I'm not too far from that state myself (I wish I was joking, hehe).

No, I'm not one of those who blames all the ills of the world on the West. Not at all.

But, as I said, compassion is key. Where that compassion will lead us in 25-30 years only God knows.

Someone like him should know better. He can't attribute his mistake to a misunderstanding. Time and time again it's our own that stick the knife in. What exactly are these wolves in sheep's clothing up to?

When I was a young teen a tyar-bar-tyar older Singh (in his 30's) gave me a sage piece of advice that riled me at the time. "Trust Sikhi, but never trust a Sikh." I was quite offended by his statement, but being 13 or 14 I laughed it off. 15 or so years later I can say that Singh was spot on. Nailed it.

Giving darshan to non-Sikhs would surely be an indication of Guru Sahib's all-encompassing divinity? If only Gursikhs received darshan, then one could begin to suspect Sikhi was only for those already on the path (preaching to the converted) OR that those individuals had willed these holy experiences into fruition (the mind is a wonderfully strange thing).

However, if your only reason for wanting to obtain darshan is to "test" Guru Sahib or to claim some kind of spiritual superiority over others, then you will be disappointed. Apparently, these experiences occur when one least expects them, or even when an individual is in great turmoil be it physically or emotionally. This applies to the layman of course. I'm not sure how this concepts works for "professional" holy people like sant and mahapurash, etc.

Are there any prominent figures in modern Sikhi who aren't rolling around in cash or don't have a handful of money-making enterprises on the go? I'm all for entrepreneurship, but knowing human nature, these are NOT the kind of people whom I will look towards for spiritual guidance and leadership on matters of principle. Not surprised one bit.

Put it this way, Muslims consider the word of their prophet as the absolute truth. As Sikhs when Gurbani talks about joons, etc, that's good enough for me. Let's take a leaf out of the Islamic book (figuratively speaking) and consider the word of our Guru as the ultimate truth if we truly do consider ourselves as his Sikhs. I'm not negating the need for a curious mind, but we don't half shoot ourselves in the foot at times.

Logic dictates a horse can't fly, but Muslims believe until their dying breath that Muhammed ascended to heaven on such a creature. No ifs, no buts. So, where does that leave their maths and logic? They can't cherry pick and point out inconsistencies or seemingly illogical fallacies in other faiths (according to them) and then pretend as if their faith is built on reason and sanity, lol.

The last thing we would not like to see is a child being upset from an Internet forum, so if the OP says he is 13yrs old we should think of as our own child and as Harsharan ji said deal with it in the best way we can as not to offend, hopefully he will get the answers to his questions.

Waheguru

Okay. I will stop posting in that guy's threads from now on. I've made my feelings clear on the subject. If he is who he says he is I'll be the first to put my hands up and apologise.