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16 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:
A few years ago, Japan suffered a 3-in-1 disaster, they had an earthquake, a tsunami and a nuclear plant meltdown. I don't know how this is a fault of their karma though.
It's karmic punishment for the Rape of Nanjing and Pearl Harbour. Oy vey!
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15 hours ago, ChardikalaUK said:It's like these refugees who are already in Greece or Italy but still want to come to Britain for more money.
Have you ever heard them talk about Italy once Britain enters their greedy horizons? They act as if Italy is a third world backwater. They treat it like a temporary stopover while milking the Italian benefits system to purchase property over there, which they then sell before moving to the UK. They say things like, "We want to come over to UK from Italy because of our kids' education." Yeah, you're all going to be curing cancer and developing interstellar travel. Clown show. Make no mistakes, these people are ice cold and calculating. There is no soul and warmth in these people. Machines. Absolute cogs and machines.
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40 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:
They must have networks in Pakistan to at least get into the tribal Pashtun areas in Pakistan and make their way into Nankana Sahib or Panjha Sahib or Kartarpur or Lahore. But they do not.
There are questions that need to be answered but we won't get that
With the right amount of inducements of various sorts, even the barbaric religious fervour of an Al Qaeda, Taliban, or an ISIS can be abated by locals (who possess the adequate resources) giving them enough time to procure an escape route, because ultimately the inevitable can only be delayed, never cancelled. But, as you said, they choose not to.
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42 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:
Earlier there was an attack on a Kabul Gurdwara killing many people.
There was an evacuation of Sikhs out of Afghanistan.
Then there were complaints by some Afghani Sikhs that were left to their own devices in India.
These Sikhs did nor want to go to India where they would be poorer but relatively safer and had to start from scratch. They wanted to go to Canada instead.
It is like providing a hot cup of coffee for a cold, homeless person and then they demand you get them a Skinny mocha latte from Starbucks.
These same Sikhs wanted to go back to Afghanistan instead staying in India.
There are 140 remaining Sikhs left.
They prefer to be a more prosperous community in a hell-hole of a country but be in more danger.
Money is more important for them than their survival.
I feel for my fellow brothers and sisters but our offer to help them is not well reciprocated or appreciated.
Generosity can only go so far.
I miss the time when identifying and discussing these uncomfortable facts didn't result in being labelled bigoted or traitorous. The "victim" industry doesn't like nuance. It wants people to fit into neatly delineated categories and roles even at the expense of reality.
As for Afghani Sikhs they are a mercantile breed. Read history and you'll realise their "type" have a particular mentality that is unique to their role and purpose. It's very interesting. An Afghani Sikh sees an Afghani Muslim to be closer to their heart than a non-Afghani Sikh. Top kek.
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27 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:Indians cant protect kashmiri pandits the hell they gonna do lmaoo? Also if we are bringing them to Punjab that is their own land not begging someone.
"We"? You handing out visas now?
Is Punjab a sovereign state not under Indian rule?
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7 hours ago, 5aaban said:
Puneet has requested the Indian government to immediately repatriate the Afghan minorities from there without any further delay.
Anytime something happens to Sikhs that doesn't have the hand of Hindustan behind it, we go crying and begging to India to protect us. Why?
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12 hours ago, jashb said:
You underestimate the role this "tactic" played in islam's development and growth - right from its infancy, up to today.
Helped it grow from a ragtag bunch of a few of muhammed's slaves, right up to the 200 crore ijjar that it is now.
Not bad at all (when correctly employed).
Exactly. But shouldn't we be smart enough to realise when they're using it on us? Why do we play into their hands? A demographic of our size and reach should have eyes and ears everywhere; be aware of ALL enemies not just the one standing in front of us. Sikhs have this fatal blind spot whereby unless someone is directly seen to be working against us we don't identify them. If an enemy (Muslims) is flattering us and pretending to be an ally while working behind our backs to put the squeeze on us 20, 40 years down the line, we're oblivious to it.
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22 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:
i did not support Muslims at all .....
You got triggered when I criticised Simranjit Singh's conciliatory post about them! How is that not supporting them? Sikhs like you tend to draw these false equivalences between our struggle with the Indian state, and Muslim agitation against the same opponents. The only valid constant in both instances is the opposition.
When we "support" Muslims in their endeavours against India it's like a boar supporting a tiger in the tiger's battle against a rhino; the tiger doesn't need or give a f**k whether he has the boar's support or not.
When Muslims "support" Sikhs in our conflicts against India, it's like the tiger nudging the boar to fight the rhino knowing the boar's going to get destroyed by the rhino BUT the boar might get a few lucky shots in, and this makes the tiger feel a little better, because he wants to see the rhino in pain. Nevertheless, it's all entertainment for the tiger, because he's a tiger, and nothing will affect him.
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This could easily be cross-posted in the Laughter thread, but posting it here throws up an interesting conversation or two:
Pack it up, Singho and Singhniya, it seems most of us are Alt-Right extremists.
Now ask yourself who would benefit from erasing these aspects of existence, and why.
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On 6/15/2022 at 9:08 AM, ChardikalaUK said:
That looks interesting but I read Ennis's Punisher, it was very silly and immature. Might check this out though.
He tries too hard. It comes across as cringe. Subtlety is not his thing.
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8 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:
why do you misinterpret everything? The point is they will come for the likes of us too. You are making the same mistake of " oh they are going after them so I am safe for sure".
I'm poking holes in your woolly logic because people tend not to get challenged in echo chambers. Once you're forced to leave your echo chamber and take your poorly constructed arguments into reality, someone with half a brain will make you, your arguments, and the movement look foolish.
You're making a similar mistake. "India's going after Muslims like they went after us, so I'm going to support these Jihadis." Fair enough... until that Jihadi sits down next to you, a loved one, etc, on a bus with a bomb strapped to him. What you going to do, then? Your support has enabled that behaviour.
It's that same Sikh bull5hit tatti about "the enemy of my enemy being my friend" that is seeing Muslims encroaching Sikh villages in India. Where's that going to get us in 25+ years? People like you are going for a scorched earth policy not realising that scorched earth will also consume YOU.
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1 hour ago, proudkaur21 said:
They were killing young sikh men with the same logic ...
Would you welcome being blown up by one of them?
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2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:
The Brits particularly of the Victorian age compartmentalise everything.
Structure and routine with clear instructions is very important.
Our cultural background is very guchh - muchh. Everything is blurred and nothing is clear and everything is chaotic and intermingled. Our way is that even if our gurus told us explicitly not to do something, we nod and agree and then carry on doing the opposite.
Ironically, if we go by various exalted rehatnamas and similar such writings produced post-The Gurus Period, an influential class of ex-Brahmins who'd converted to Sikhi (supposedly) had maneuvered themselves into the decision-making apparatus of the religion, who, subsequently -- surprise-surprise -- were producing apparently divinely inspired writings that legitimised and prioritised individuals of their own background in terms of special status and power within the Panth itself.
So we basically went full circle from complaining about social injustice under Brahmins prior to 1469, to a Brahmin overseer class infiltrating Sikhi as one of us in order to continue holding onto the reins of whatever spiritual and temporal power was present in the Panth at the time. And apparently this latter period is the golden age we need to return to. We're being played by chalakhoos in the Panth.
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9 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:I honestly think that the existence of Sikhs in substantial numbers today is accidental and due to the British:
1) The British made a clear distinction between Sikhs and Hindus, based on physical appearance (Sikh <=> turban and kesh, no turban and kesh => Hindu). Without the rulers making such a clear distinction, the line between Sikh and Hindu would have been blurred, and I think there is a good chance that Sikhs would have just been gradually absorbed back into the Hindu fold (most Sikhs partook in certain Hindu practices anyway, and Hindus to this day view Sikhs as just another one of their subgroups).
2) The British incentivized being Sikh by (among other things) preferentially recruiting Sikhs into the military. Within a generation or two of the British taking control of Punjab, virtually all Punjabi-speaking jats were "visible Sikhs" (kept turban and kesh). Within a generation or two of the British raj ending, a majority of Punjabi-speaking jats reverted back to being monay. This was not a coincidence. Aside from the jat community, notice similar practices in other communities. For example, the tradition of Hindu khatri families raising one son to be a Sikh. The frequency of this practice and the frequency of jats keeping their kesh follow essentially the same timeline.
A rather spicy hot-take but one with merit.
The British inculcated structure and organisation; some would suggest to the detriment of groups they considered non-essential to their plans to rule.
The lines between what passed as Sikhi and Punjabi Hinduism prior to the British may as well not even have existed. There was a hell of a lot of crossover to the point where the ground reality was a laissez-faire adherence to Sikhi if I'm being generous. Those who lament a puritan Sikhi do so not because of a genuine dardh for a lost civilisation or way of life, but because what emerged under the British -- and the later Singh Sabha efforts to reform -- sidelined their own particular tribe while elevating others. A return to the "good old" days prior to the SS and the British actually signals a closer adherence to Hinduism. Is that what Sikhs desire?
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4 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:lol its not that complicated. Having so much faith in your beliefs that you are willing to die for it is not some occult practice. In Sikhi shaheedi isn't to please some God or to get reward in the after life. Sikhs fight till death for their beliefs and for the betterment of the society. Our ancestors became shaheed for truth and righteousness and not for some after life reward. The Punjabi proverb means exactly that because when you see someone have so much faith and die for the truth it gives hope and encouragement to others to continue down the same path. Sikhs went into battlefields outnumbered knowing they will die not to please some God but it acts as a symbolism to always keep fighting for the truth and to never turn your back in the battlefield even if you know you are going to die,a tradition which continues on till this day with Sikhs still being killed for even speaking for our rights. Majority of the people in the world would rather accept slavery than die and you know exactly what I am saying. Shaheedi further signifies to us that it is better to die as a free man than to live like a slave. My point being if this women is so much strong in her Hindu beliefs then why is she so scared of dying for the truth?
You've missed my point. Human blood is priceless. Human blood + the manner in which it's spilled can be harnessed in many interesting ways via the correct ritualistic process. You're seeing it merely through the jingoistic "let's go out in a blaze of glory." I'm saying wasteful and random blood letting is not sensible, and I'm ALWAYS suspicious of those who advocate martyrdom for other people's sons and daughters yet are conspicuous by their absence when it comes to stepping up themselves.
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3 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:These "own citizen children" stop being productive members of the land of their birth when they attend training camps where they learn skills to kill the people around them, lol. "Higher education" my chittar.
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11 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/status/1536213439969824769?s=20https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/status
Hindus have no idea what shaheedi means in Islam or Sikhi lol.
If you look into the ancient practice of blood sacrifices (that continue to this day) as a transactional "ardaas" that's expected to reap a physical response / "reward" for blood-letting (be it of the martyr himself or his victims), most religiously based martyrdom is actually an occult ritual. The shedding of blood AND the intention of the sacrifice are key. As the old Punjabi saying goes, "When the blood of martyrs is spilled, the fortune of nations is changed." We need to understand this esoterically and not purely in political or physical terms. Problem is the energy / life force in blood isn't going to who you think it's going to. A loving, almighty God doesn't require blood for sustenance or as an act of devotion. Just something to think on.
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Desh bhagats will claim, "You're focusing on the negative aspects of India" rather than have any solutions to these clear and ever present problems that aren't going away.
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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:
He looks like my mama!
Most of us have an elder male relative who looks like him.
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1944: Imperial Japan still commands most of Asia. Determined to regain their hold on Burma, the British send a special forces unit – the Chindits – deep behind Japanese lines. Their mission is to attack the enemy wherever they find him. What awaits them is a nightmare equal to anything the Second World War can deliver.
Colonel Keith Crosby and Doctor Alistair Whitamore have old scores to settle, being veterans of the long retreat through Burma two years before. But neither the jungle nor the foe have gotten any less savage, and when the shooting starts and the Japanese descend on the smaller British force in their midst, every man will be tested to his limit.
Writer Garth Ennis (The Boys, Preacher, OUT OF THE BLUE, DREAMING EAGLES) and artist PJ Holden (The Stringbags, World of Tanks, Judge Dredd) present a special 4-issue Oversized Prestige Format Mini-Series – a tale of hellish jungle warfare, as apparently civilized human beings descend into an apocalyptic heart of darkness.
Not something that's Sikh centric per se, but features a visible Sikh character. Ennis is hit and miss for me, but I'm curious about this one.
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So Sikhs are simple minded, mildly retarded fools who go through life from one disaster to the next? Yeah, thanks Bollywood.
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Yup. They're compensating for their own perceived previous misdeeds. It happens a lot in other religions, too. The most fervent are those who have a past they want to erase.
I'm some ways, fair play to them for wanting to reform, but it does come across as trying too hard. Insecure. Hollow.