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Just now, MisterrSingh said:

I know, the Japs coined it after the earthquake a few years ago.

Yup, and everybody and their chacha have used it in political circles ever since.

4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Almost... as if it were internationally planned?...

Oh, i wish there was some sort of conspiracy behind that slogan but "Build Back Better" is a concept used in disaster risk management, it's better explained here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_Back_Better

21 hours ago, Balait_da_Sher said:

What is sangats opinion on graves (no headstones) on the gurdwara premises.  Committee is considering buying a church and it has some burials.

I personally don't think it is a big deal as long as we are respectful. The burials are out of the way and could be turned into flowerbeds etc with a hedge/fence around them.

The car park of Singh Sabha Gurdwara in Newcastle was built on a graveyard, it belonged to an old Congregational Church that had been demolished in the 1960's i think but the graveyard hadn't been used for nearly 150 years, the remaining headstones were moved to a different site.

If it's an issue they could apply to have the graves exhumed and moved to a different site, i like the idea of using old churches from a historical and architectural point of view but we have way too many buildings and not enough sangat, we have a new one/replacement being built where i live, it been delayed continuously because they keep on running out of money, they've secured funding now but the whole thing's delayed because of the pandemic, the only sangat at the current Gurdwara are on a Sunday and even that's minimal, god knows what they're going to do with a building that big.

On 9/25/2020 at 9:16 PM, Singh1989 said:

 

How quaint , you quoted what i said and changed it, amazing.

19 hours ago, puzzled said:

 

I highly recommend watching The Social Dilemma on Netflix, Jaron Lanier is on there as well a lot of the people who started or were involved in all the social media platforms.

19 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

professor teaching pathophysiology, physiology to UK nurses for over twenty years , he's been sorting out through all the numerous reports and papers produced by doctors/scientists  and collating and explaining just what that means comparing different regions/countries and tracking infection rates, fatalities and case rates to counter the immense BS spouted by politicians here and across the pond.

He was also one of the first people to call out the taking of Vitamin D supplements to boost your immune system, i think he spoke about it back in March, it's only now that the mainstream have taken notice of it, outside of the occasional news story he's pretty much the only person i watch and have any trust in.

She seems like a lovely woman, thankfully the Lid Dems have a little sense and have decided to drop here:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/14/lib-dems-drop-mayoral-contender-over-antisemitic-comment-about-jack-straw

I bet if she was standing for the Tories they would have just ignored it and kept her on.

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

what do u make of northern Europe(Sweden, Norway etc).?

New Zealand is an excellent option.

I know some people who strongly believe in societal collapse and recommend Portugal as a very safe option.Some even say George Bush has bought large piece of land in Portugal.

Sweden is really expensive, not sure about Norway, Portugal have a residency scheme going at the moment, it costs about £3000 i think but that buys you 5 years residency so after Brexit you can essentially travel across Europe without having to jump through whatever hoopes the UK government come up with, you essentially end up with dual nationality, a few immigration experts have advised this route for people with relatives in India who want to bring them over here (which you can't anymore) so they get a extended visa for Portugal and you pay for dual nationality and you can visit them whenever you want and vice-versa (sorry, went off on a tangent).

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Why New Zealand? 

It's full of sheep (JSinghNZ being amongst them)

 When trying to run away from your problems, everyone is trying to do the same and the riff raff follows and you are back to square one.

New Zealand's being raved about. But give a few years and it won't be so attractive. 

 

New Zealand's always been a decent country, the quality of life there is pretty good, i have friends and relatives in Auckland and Christchurch.

I agree in part about all the riff raff following to one place, it's kind of the Indian mentality,but that's how it's always been, look at Toronto, every Indian started in Brampton then made money, moved to the nicer part and so did everyone else, it's just a continuous cycle.

5 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

I've been watching John Campbell throughout too , but the reason why I linked the vape video was the finer droplet sizes and the gap issue I was talking about was illustrated in a visual sense . That even small gaps compromise effectiveness of droplet containment . Masks are for keeping our  germs to ourselves rather than protection of ourselves from others as is constantly iterated by health professionals .

Dr John Campbell mentions in one of his videos (might be the one i linked or another one) that the wearing of a mask is a two way thing, if you wear one and someone opposite you wears one but has Covid, they cough or sneeze, the particulates that get through their mask lessens and they lessen more when they enter your mask, there's evidence appearing that this in turn reduces the severity of the infection people will get compared to someone not wearing a mask, there was evidence presented last week about face shield and how useless they are by themselves.

The one thing that is true is we all have to use our own common sense, the UK government has proven they have no idea how to handle this pandemic, their primary interest is the economy not human life.

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

ON my Hospital visit I was unaware of the staff member vaping just behind me , the wind changed and I caught his drift full force in the eyes , mask etc because I could smell the flavour I realised that the vapour had penetrated , my eyes were stinging (God knows how they take that ish into their lungs) . That is the only time my mask had failed me because to smell something I would have to remove the mask from my face .

this is the research I used to work out my construction materials , Polyester attracts the fine droplets through static .

 

That first video has to be one of the most ridiculous things i've seen, virus's travel on saliva and/or mucus particulates, vape residue doesn't, i really want to stay out of the whole "conspiracy" nonsense that has arisen from this pandemic, too many people have died to even allow me to give it the time of day but like i said earlier, it's up to you if you want to wear a mask, if you don't think it helps you shouldn't look down on those who think it does.

Below is a video by Dr John Campbell, he's been posting pretty much every day since the Pandemic started, he has his say on mask's at about 22 minutes in, id it was a choice between trusting him over the vape guy, he'd win every time.

Back to the original post, those masks are ridiculously over priced, my mum has been making masks similar to those for the sangat at the Gurdwara (for free), the ones she made are similar, i showed her these and she said they cost about £1.00 to make, seem's there's profit to be made in everything.

On another note, if you don't want to wear a mask then that's your call, you have every right to that opinion, i could bang on about the lunacy of some of the opinions i've read but until you or someone you know has been through it with Covid-19 then all your talking just amounts to nothing more than opinion not fact, someone posting something on Youtube claiming it to be a truth doesn't make it so.

12 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Is this attitude just in Punjab? Media trying to isolate Sikhs?

 

Not from what i've heard, it's widespread through out India, they basically blame foreigners, I have a few friend's working for a tech company in Delhi, 2 of them that are white have been forced to have Covid tests 3 times now, they really are insecure over there.

On 9/1/2020 at 9:51 PM, learningkaur said:

Yes I think we’ll have to wait and go over the ‘first year’. I don’t want to take the risk of becoming ill and ending up in an Indian hospital. Does anyone know why they say ashes should be scattered within the year? Is it okay to do after a year?

 

As mentioned ny @puzzled, you can scatter them here in the UK, there are a few places, you can go to Stratford upon Avon or Leicester, i'm sure there are more around the UK.

As far as going to India, having spoken to relatives over there (Jullundur, Nawanshahr and Chandigarh), I'd avoid it for a while, no only is Covid on the rise there's also an attitude about blaming outsiders for the spread of it.

I'm not sure about the scattering within a year thing, maybe best to ask a Gyani about that.

20 hours ago, puzzled said:

Do you feel anything? 

No idea, none of us will know until get there. I've lost a fair few people close to me over the years, my Grandmother passed away recently, her last request was to pass away at home, she hated hospitals, so we bought her home and she passed away in her own bed about 15 hours later, whether she was in pain or not in the traditional sense i can't say, she was unconscious while we watched her breathing slow.

On the opposite end was my Mother-in-law, she passed away a few years ago from cancer, she was in the most horrendous pain to a point where even the painkillers didn't help, she was asking for death, the doctors had to give her a tonne of morphine which helped her sleep and then she went down hill really fast until she passed away.

My grandad dies instantly from a heart attack so he would have felt an enormous amount of pain, I lost my brother many many years ago, he was on a ventilator in an induced coma for 2 weeks, he was pretty much brain dead so he couldn't have felt pain according to the doctors.

I guess i'm rambling on a bit, point is, we like to tell ourselves "They passed away peacefully" so we can cope but we'll never really know the pain someone goes through when they pass away, i think it would be too much for us to cope with if we knew, as already mentioned, it's  different for different people, i think the lucky ones just get taken instantly so if there is pain it's immediate, those unfortunate of will have it dragged out and maybe make it all the more painful.

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

I spent time in a similar setting when I was a kid (under 10), and while, with God's grace, I managed to not fall victim to such shenanigans mostly due to my parents pulling me out in time, I observed the older "kids" (mid-teens and older) actively targetting the younger ones. They start friendly; an arm around the shoulder, etc., but then their hands start wandering; they make night-time visits to where the younger kids sleep, and before you know it the filth starts.

Sikh or not, where-ever there's young children, you will always have sexual predators gravitating to such places. Our institutions are no exception.

The issue is that people still have the mind set that this kind of thing doesn't happen in "Sikhi", when the whole NKJ thing kicked off you had educated people saying it could never happen in our religion, it's still seen as something that shouldn't be discussed out in the open, a "we'll take care of our own" mentality, didn't really do the catholic church much good in the end. If we see this stuff going on we all need to call it out and make it known that this isn't acceptable in Sikhi (or anywhere else for that matter).

50 minutes ago, Shaheed4life said:

Yea he called Jathedar ji a hypocrite.All the more sangat should listen to our jathedar and not NKJ.Just because NKJ says a couple of good things,that does not give them the right to say the wrong things and not be questioned.For example Harinder said mental illnesses cannot be cured by Gurbani.by that he is putting limitation on  Guru ji's capabilities.If we have full faith in our Guru he can solve all our problems.We dont have to see a worldly doctor,our physician  is Guru ji.

Bhul Chuk Maf

Yeah, he's spouted a lot of rubbish over the last few years, people are sheep, they need someone to follow, that someone is sat on their throne in every Gurdwara you visit yet people decide to follow snake oil salesmen like him.

Gurbani might not be able to cure mental health problems but it certainly helps, in  the last few month's of lockdown for me one of the only things that has saved me from loosing it completely is listening to Gurbani.

Harinder's released a video on Nirvair Khalsa Jatha's youtube page (i'm not posting it out of principle, it's easy to find), he waffle's on for 10 minutes telling people to make up their own minds and how the system's corrupt.

I remember seeing them years ago, they were pretty good, they had all the sangat's attention, i saw them recently (well, a couple of years back, before they opened their own Gurdwara) and he rolled up in a brand new white Audi Q7 with a private plate (something like NKJ **) and that spoke volumes about who he and his group of rag tag followers were, power and money corrupts, only a few are immune to it, these lot are as corrupted as they get.

52 minutes ago, Singh375 said:

Reading palm is a very real thing. You can learn how to interpret lines on Youtube, but that’s just a cool party trick really.

Proper technique is acquiring power with meditation. Then it’s a third eye thing, just by looking at your palm they can see every single vein in the body. They can diagnose any illness from the palm. This is how a true doctor works, Guru Nanak Sahib Ji met such people. 

They can read your future in detail, but the issue is destiny on palms changes a lot. Accurate method is to read someones forehead. That’s even more difficult, it needs a lot of meditation. 

Overall such people normally won’t be found in the western world. Yogis and sadhus have these powers

I know people that can tell if your ill by looking at your palms or if you have any deficiencies in your health, that i can comprehend but telling someone what there future holds by reading the lines on your palms is something i personally don't go for, maybe it's because i've never had my palm's read or maybe, for me, it's just a little too far out there.

On 8/18/2020 at 10:31 AM, puzzled said:

What do you think of tarot card readers and palm readers? Where do they get their powers from? Is it a divine or demonic source? 

Years and years ago when my cousin sister first came from India her husband whose from here took her to one of those gypsy palm readers. Just for fun, not that he believes in that stuff. And the guy reading her hand said that our great grandmother/nani is helping her all the time! My cousin thought he was just making it up but then he even mentioned the name of our great grandmother!  He also knew that she was our nanis mother. He said that she has her hand on my cousins head all the time. 

How do these palm readers know all this stuff? 

 

A friend of mine i used to work with a few years back went to a well renowned palm reader "clairvoyant" up in Blackpool a while back, he had drinking problems, the person he saw told him he would be dead within a year from an "accident", 10 years on he's still alive and does my head in when i meet him, he told me he had told her that he had drinkin problems as well as other things, she probably took a guess that he'd get drunk and drive his car and end up in an accident.

My wife is adamant that palm reading is a real thing, it causes many an argument in our house, i usually lose because i just walk away, life's too short to be spent on arguing over fairy tales, the thing is, i put it in the same category as horoscopes, if someone tells you something will happen to you enough times you'll start believing it and find a way to make it happen.

When i was younger i went through a phase where i was well into reading books and researching Psychic mediums like John Edward, i still can't figure them out, i'm not saying the whole thing is false, it just baffles me, as far as their powers, they're making money from it so it's can't be coming from a good place can it.

15 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Is it still seen as ‘uncool’ to do well in school? I remember it was the opposite for my cousins in India, who all wanted to be ‘first’ in their class

i understand studies and doing well is much more respected amongst peers in private schools in UK

I'm not too sure to be honest, we've always taught our children the value of education supersedes pretty much everything, most of the children in their schools have this mentality as well so they all do well, i think times have changes and the way children are taught has become a little less black and white and more organic (in my experience). There will always be that group of kids that don't care and would much rather be doing something "cool" rather than studying but i think that because our generation went through that we are better equipped to deal with it if our children go down that road.

I'll tell you a story about private schools, my chacha sent his eldest son all the way through private education, spent a lot of money, he's a great lad my cousin, he now works for the teacher's union (NUT) as a website assistant, all that education for nothing, his younger brother, again, a great guy, went through the normal education route, went to Uni, did a BA then MA in Architecture, spent 5 years at a top London form and now runs his own Architectural firm, it's not about money or private schools, it's about your mentality and hunger to educate yourself.

35 minutes ago, proactive said:

I would definately send my son to a Khalsa school even if it had a worse Ofsted report an a non-Sikh school. For one I take a great interest in my children's education, I tutored my son myself through the 11 plus not to get him into a grammer school but so that he would be ahead in year 7 which has worked really well with the lockdown because he has already done the year 7 work in Maths and English. The way I lok at it is that parents have to take a lot of responsiblility for their children's education and know where their weaknesses are and not rely on the school to address this but themselves. The reason I want him in a Sikh school is so that he has a good grounding in our religion and culture. He has learned to play the Tabla which he would not have been able to do in a non-Sikh school and his whole way of thinking is not entirely who a Sikh would think. I heard his sing a shabad to himself while he was doing his homework and because the Khalsa school has a lot of assemblies he gets a chance to sing shabads with his class to the whole school. 

The school my younger kids go to do this, they have tabla classes, kirtan classes, the children go to various Gurdwara's to do Kirtan on Sundays (before lockdown), my kids come back from school asking questions about Sikh history, this is a Sikh ethos school and not a faith school like I've mentioned, they are not full force "interfaith" but do teach getting on with other's.

Your right about taking responsibility for your children's education and not relying on schools to do the whole job but unfortunately there are a lot of parents who still rely on schools because they either don't have time, don't understand or simply don't want to educate their children at home.

1 hour ago, proactive said:

We had those assemblies and they even had some vicar hand out bibles for the students although I doubt that kind of thing would be allowed today. We even had Cliff Richards visit our school and he rambled on about religion as well. There is nothing wrong in learning about other religions but that is what RE is about. Religious schools only have an assembly with their religion and not any other religion. It seems the Nishkam people are so inclusive that they do not even know what assembly a religious school should have. You state that parents don't mind the assemblies of other religions, let's be honest here, the average Sikh parent trusts what ever the school does. The only reason my kid is going there is because the Gurdwara could not not be bothered to build a Khalsa secondary school in the primary school so Nishkam is the best option for al least a Sikh education. If there was a Khalsa secondary school nearby there is no way I would send my kid to Niskham instead of the Khalsa Seondary School. 

The reason i say the parent's at our youngest kid's school don't mind is because there isn't a whole load of them (religious assemblies that is), we have the usual "festival" ones and there about 2/3 every month solely based around Sikhi but the school has take Sikh principles and moulded them so they are accessible by children from all religions.

Most "free" schools as they were called when they were set up like Nishkam and other's are "Sikh Ethos", i mentioned this in my post, they are not "Sikh Faith Schools" like Guru Nanak Sikh Academy in Hayes for example, at the end of the day it's up to you as a parent where you feel is best for your child, if had the option to send my children to a school like Nishkam i would because i'm more interested in their track record as a school and the education they provide (as far as i'm aware they are on the outstanding list with ofsted).

Just a question, if there was a Khlasa Secondary school nearby but the quality of education and ofsted reports were better  another school nearby would you still choose to send your child to the Khalsa one purely on the basis of religion.