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11 hours ago, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:
I think it's the mann - mind they beat. I remeber watching Bhai Jagraaj Singh ji talking about the Jamdoots beating the mind because the souls is pure and the thing filled with dirt and haumai is our mind. The longer we think the mind is everything and I (haumai) the more beats we will get.
It could explain why we say "Maan neeva maat uchi" when doing ardaas.
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1 hour ago, puzzled said:Yeah i'v heard similar stories to what your grandma saw. These experiences are no different to what bani says about jamdoots and how they beat people.
But what is it that jamdoots beat? Because our remains are on earth, so they take our soul, is it our soul that is punished then?
Dasam bani says that kaami people will be tied to hot metal poles/pillars.
Our conscious must go with us then ?
I thin our conscious may go with us up until a certain point, the story i referenced earlier (that i can't find now), i remember the gentleman saying he slowly forgot about his earthly life as he entered a state of bliss and pure love.
We also say "Aaatma" has left the body after someone passes, that would be your soul, maybe that carries some element of your consciousness with it.
I've no idea what happens, there are a few like my Grandmother who got a peak behind the curtain, i think all we can do is be decent human beings and remember his name.
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On 7/27/2020 at 4:13 PM, puzzled said:Many Pubjabis say that all this stuff is just superstitions/behm and say it's all pakand.
Their usual argument is that no one has seen these things.
It's pretty difficult for a normal human being to comprehend that something like this might exist, you'll even get religious people who will brush it off even though the religion they believe in say's it's what happens.
I'm not sure of I've spoken about this on this forum before (if i have i apologise for the repeat telling), my Grandmother passed away at the tale end of last year, she was 95 and had a decent life, all she would ever do is paath, all the time, my mum told me she had darshan of Guru Nanak Dev Ji when she was doing paath once but refused to speak about it because it shook her up.
About two week's before she passed she wouldn't wake up, he breathing had slowed to almost nothing, we called the paramedics, they worked on her and managed to revive her (her kidneys were operating at about 5% at this point so we knew that if she made it past 2019 she's be lucky), she was out for about 2 hours in total, a few day's later i ring my mum to see how she is, she starts telling me that you Gran's been telling me something weird, i spoke to my Bibi, she said she had died and was being taken away (she didn't mention Jamdoots by name), all she heard was screaming and people being beaten to a point that she was scared, he words were "Oothe Kuth De Bahut ya", she said she was told "Tera hor kam rehnde ya hale" by someone and was sent back, it freaked me out no end, she was unfazed by the whole thing, my mum and dad took it in their stride as well (they are both deeply religious amritdhari's).
She passed away 2 weeks later, same day, Friday, she had her entire family around her, i'm thinking that was what she meant when she said "tera hor kam rehnde ya", she hadn't seen my 2 chache for a while and this made them come down, she heard everyone's voices and passed away peacefully.
10 months on I've not fully grasped what she told me, she was an integral part of my life and taught me pretty much everything i know about being a good human being, she was a good person and i hope she found peace with the amount of faith she had.
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On 7/22/2020 at 7:19 PM, Guest Jasmeet Singh said:A lil background about me, I am came to Canada 4 years ago. I’m currently working for a crooked manager who exploits me to his gains (being made to work extensively for long hours, less pay than minimum wage, odd hours, inconvenient work) this has gone on for far too long and I despise him so much.
because of which I wanna do an ardaas for him, specifically to request that he experiences the same pain that I’m going through and even worse.
is it wise to do so? I’m getting anxiety attacks late at night and I’m in a lot of pain cause of this.
I know it sounds simple but just find another job and leave (i say this without knowing you specific situation so if i'm off the mark let me know).
Nothing good ever comes of wishing ill on someone else, i'll come back onto you, trust me, I've had it happen to me, it's taken me a long time to learn not to wish negativity onto others and doing a negative ardaas, listen, we do ardaas for the betterment of everyone, if your going to wish on someone while doing ardaas you've already let yourself down and learnt nothing from your Guru's.
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20 hours ago, puzzled said:
Experience with Jamdoots in Dharmpuri
There was a story (audio recording i think) like this someone posted a while ago about a gentleman from India who was sat outside his house asleep and was taken by Jamdoots by mistake, he spoke of the bliss he felt and the amount of love before he was sent back, i'd love to find that recording, can't remember any more than that.
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2 hours ago, Singh375 said:
Sangat who mention being troubled by such things, listen to Sukhmani Sahib, keep it on in the background while working/doing housework.
I've had Sukhmani Sahib Playing 24/7 in my house for many years, i've found that if it's not playing at night (it's on a spare ipod which tend's to have a mind of it's own sometimes so it decides it doesn't like repeating tracks) i tend not too sleep that well, i'll get up and turn it back on and i'll sleep well again.
Another point is we used to play a Sehaj Paat (my parent's bought back those mp3 players from India with it pre-loaded onto it), i would make a point of putting it on once a month over the course of a week, the amount of fighting, bickering and arguing that would happen in our house when it was on was unbelievable, i used ring my mum and tell her and she would say if you put something positive on the negative in the house will fight it, so the arguing and bickering was all the negative energy in the house being pushed out by manifesting itself though us when we fought and argued.
1 hour ago, puzzled said:Can you tell me more? Why did they appear? And what are they? The lady like read some kind of spell before they appeared and she said the bad spirit that has been bothering me has gone and that's when I saw the orbs.
The one on the roof above my head looked like this and it was slowly moving, never seen anything like that!
It was there for a few secs and it really spooked me out and it went.
While the little orbs zooming around me were like really bright white sparks, zooming around me really fast. They also lasted a few seconds.
The lady just told me its archangel michael and they hes here to protect us and that I shouldn't be worried. She said she calls him for help when she needs him.
In Nottingham (UK) there's a pub called Ye Olde Trip To Jerusalem, above it on a hill is Nottingham castle, there are tunnels that lead up to the castle from the pub (they were used as an escape route from the castle) you'll see orbs like this there, i've seem them once or twice when i worked in Nottingham and we would go there for lunch (not suggesting Amritdhari folk actively go to pubs for lunch), they do a ghost tour there, the guy who runs the tour describes them as "energy" which is a fair description for most of these things spoken about on this thread, some of it is positive energy and some of it negative, it just manifests itself in different ways.
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22 minutes ago, puzzled said:
It's the cross roads isnt it! I have 2 around the corner from my house. Just a few weeks back one of the cross roads, someone had built pyramids with bricks! And the bricks had divas on them! I didnt see them in the morning, but when I went for a walk around 9pm i saw it. Next morning someone had smashed them all up!
Same crossroad has one of those public bins with a bus stop right nxt to it and someone had created a circle around the bins and bus stop with shells! Like 6:30am in the morning it was already all there all set up, I walked past it and was like <banned word filter activated> is going on here.
Not sure why but people do stuff like this on diwali too , something to do with the positioning of the moon and planets I think. My cousins live around 5 min walk from my house and they have a cross road outside their house and the local gujrati lady used to go there middle of the night and start doing things.
Yeah you're right bro people do this stuff in the gurdwara tpo, which is really sad. We've had cases of moongi di dhal in bags hanging outside the gurdwara gates, how sad is that. People do weird stuff like someone told me how a lady came into the gurdwara and started handing out little tubs of vaseline to the kids! None of the kids took them so the lady started going up to the mums and started giving the tubs to them and told them to apply the vaseline on the kids. When one of the mums questioned her and accused the lady of dodgy behaviour the lady said that her husband has a skin condition and some baba told her to give out tubs of vaseline to kids at a gurdwara/mandir. Obviously those tubs of vaseline weren't just ordinary tubs! I'm sure the ladys baba friend had done stuff to them. But anyway the lady was driven out of the gurdwara by all the mums! And rightly so!
Madness!
My parents told me about this stuff as a kid and told me if I see anything dodgy like that then start doing waheguru simran.
The crossroads thing is prevalent in a lot of societies, people believed it represented the space between worlds so you could communicate with the other side there, a lot of it centres around summoning the devil or it's cultural equivalent or making offerings to get rid of whatever your problem is, the whole thing is fascinating when you start reading into it (if your into that kind of thing).
I've been to wedding's and photographed weddings where people get up to all kinds of nonsense, the main one is maha di daal (again) being put into the girsl Chola (the cloth where people put money) at sagan time, because of this the girls sister or aunt would sit next to her to keep an eye on what people give, there was one wedding where a lady deliberatly did mata tekh in front of the bride and groom as they sat before maharaj even though the giyani told her no to.
It's all very saddening to see what people will do to get rid of their problems, the elder generation knew more about these things because it was "excess" baggage they ought with them to the west, maybe in India they had meaning behind them, i know the story that is told about not sitting under a tree between 12pm and 2pm because that's when ghosts sit there, when you look into it a bit deeper the reality is in the villages in India they would tell children that to stop them sitting under tree's in the mid-day sun because that's when animals would be looking for food in tree's (especially monkey's).
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19 hours ago, puzzled said:
Well of course it exists, people go to cremation grounds and communicate with the dead and do all sorts of weird stuff. Bani mentions ghosts. Many things exist that we can't see, there are souls everywhere, people start communicating with them.
People who deny it, can believe in god, gurus, reincarnation, karma, destiny, yet they deny the existence of black magic because it sounds to "unreal" and no one has seen it lol!
But yes bani protects you from it.
While i was walking to work in front of me i saw a Indian/Pakistani wearing a black chola throwing something into a canal and she was saying something, she turned around saw me walking her direction and she knew i saw what she was doing, she then started walking, her eyes were closed and she was saying stuff, i walked straight past her!
That same canal, i used to jog along the canal and once i saw a red chunni tied to a tree.
People just couldn't leave that rubbish back home they had to bring it to the west with them.
I see this kind of stuff all the time where i live, Gujarati's have an obsession with this stuff, you go out early enough and you'll see them throwing limes tied up with chilli's on every crossroad they can find, not so nice later on in the day when you have to drive over them, coconuts with red string and various things tied to them thrown in the river all the time, it's great fun calling them out on it and they run away with their heads held in shame.
Punjabi people are just as bad, at one of the Gurdawara's here people have been caught leaving Mongi di Daal at various place as well as kids shoes and all type of other paraphernalia, people aren't even afraid of the house of god.
I have a simple philosophy when it come's to stuff like this, i don't mess with it, i was taught from a young age to do mool mantar every time i felt something was wrong, whether it's an actual thing or a psychological thing that happens based on suggestion i don't know.
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16 hours ago, puzzled said:
Been thinking about this today, Can you actually prove the existence of God? Now it obviously depends what God you believe in ... For example if Hindus see Cows as a God or and incarnation of God then yes that Hindu can prove the existence of their God. But can you actually prove the existence of a God which is without form or shape? Once that does not physically talk to you? Transcendent and beyond time. You can't ! how can you actually prove something that is transcendent?
God is something that you have faith in, a belief which is an emotion, and you can not prove an emotion! how can you "prove" a belief? faith?
Now people have experiences of God or have visions, once again how are you actually supposed to prove a experience?
You just can't ...
Every time i used to ask my Bibi questions like this her go to answer was simple " We know there is wind, can you prove it exists", I used to say you can feel it when it blows, her answer was "Don't you fell Waheguru when you say his name". Those were simple answers that worked on a young child.
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On 6/23/2020 at 11:30 AM, shastarSingh said:
I don't think it happens in punjabI industry.
Neeru bajwa in an interview advised young girls to stay away from bollywood.
She is pretty happy with punjabi industry though.
The Punjabi film industry is just as bad, in the 80's and 90's it was run by drug runners and gangsters needing to launder money (some film's are still financed this way), the "casting couch" has always existed, you don't have too look far on a google search to find the stories, there's certain actors who females actress's won't work with (go look up some of the stories about Binnu Dhillon).
Neeru Bajawa started her career in Hindi soaps, she's spoken of being typecast and producers wanting "favours", she's started her own production company because of this so she has control but she's in a position to do that because of her background and being able to financially do that, there a loads of actress's that can't and they get taken advantage off, look at all the stuff that's being going around of a certain Punjabi music video producer taking advantage of the models he hires for video shoot.
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Didn't they fail in the one area that was a basic requirement, safeguarding children, of course they'll deny it and pull the "but we're Sikh and so are you so you should believe us and not ofsted" guilt trip, what's important is the education and safety of the children, if you're not providing that then it doesn't matter what kind of school you are, you've failed.
I've never understood the hate against Nishkam Trust, I've got plenty of friends who's children go to their schools and are really happy, they were put forward to take over a school in Coventry and there was loads of hate there as well, the idea that it is a non-Sikh trust is ridiculous, oh well, each to their own.
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I'd love too see how this will play out considering his elder brother is a Chief Superintendent with the met police.
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16 minutes ago, Redoptics said:
If you're gay you're gay, I don't condone it but whatever, but what I find strange they have to promote it, wear like a badge, shout from the top of the roof tops. I don't see straight people behave this way, maybe it's all down to being insecure and seeking attention.
Completely agree with you, when i was in college a good friend of mine told me he was gay i had no issue with it, what i did take issue with was the way he decided to tell me, on a Friday he asked me what i was doing on Saturday, i had nothing planned so we met up in the city centre, we're say there having a coffee, up walk's this other guy, my mate get's up and gives him a hug and introduces him as his boyfriend, i said okay, cool, then he goes off with his boyfriend saying they had made plans leaving me sat there, i met up with him on the Monday back at college and ripped into him, he thought i had "issues" with him coming out as gay, i didn't, i had issues with him wasting my Saturday morning to tell me something he could have just told me at college or over the phone.
I think it's probably an issue with acceptance, people feel the bigger song and dance they make about it the more people will be forced into accepting their lifestyle.
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I've said it on another thread on these forums, Twitter, specifically "Brown Twitter" is something you should avoid at all costs unless you want to destroy your remaining brain cells. That post about the "Lesbian Sikh" is pretty mild compared to some of the stuff I've seen, there's no limit to the amount of stuff people will post just for some re-tweets, i really do feel sorry for that generation.
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29 minutes ago, puzzled said:
Why "sikh" parents would let their "sikh" daughter were a dress the length of a t-shirt is gobsmacking.
Honestly i'v seen so many cases like these. She possibly with a guy who her rents don't approve off, and now they accepted the guy and she's come.back home.
Back in school we used to have punjabi females running away all the time because they wanted to wear makeup or have their eyebrows done!
Why they got sikh organisations to waste their time I don't know.
What she wore to me is irreverent, this stuff happened back in the day when girls were covered from head to toe, i just find it ridiculous that it's a family matter, deal with it internally, there are families out there with genuine cases where there children have gone missing and are knocking on doors begging for help, these lot had people like Diljit Dosanjh putting their daughters picture up in Instagram asking for help, they took it to new levels.
Anyway, it's all done now, whatever the reason, i understand they want privacy but you know what our people are like, they'll want something in return for helping out, even if all they did was re-tweet a message, you know what us pendu's are like.....
Also, Sikh Youth would get involved if your cat went missing, Deepa needs all the positive PR he can get after his sister and him got caught fiddling the books.
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9 minutes ago, puzzled said:
Lol say it No one is biting their tongue about this case lmao
She just disappeared one day and came back home the next lol
There's no point, anyone with half a brain can see it's probably a family problem, this stuff happens all the time, you have to wounder how many stories her family are going to have to make up to cover for this.
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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:
Probably was on an "excursion" with some mates. The fact that the family got a Sikh organisation involved instead of the police is interesting, as if the family has something to be concerned about.
I have more to say but I'll bite my tongue. I'll probably be accused of victim shaming.
A friend of mine on Instagram went on a rant about this today, but yeah, probably best to just be quite about it, glad she's safe whatever the circumstances were.
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On 6/26/2020 at 8:18 PM, Big_Tera said:It is true or not is not the issue. It's the fact that these videos are being posted in the first place. It's a direct threat. Ie trying to say that Sikhism is not true faith and then saying how islam is true by this fake testimony.
We can't let things like this slide. Next there maybe hundreds of these fake videos.
We need to report them. I actually have come across this person's face before. Seems like a strategy to try and gain Sikh converts.
We need to look at the bigger picture here, the idea that there are hundreds of not thousands of Sikhs willing to convert to Islam is what people like this want you to believe, the actual truth is probably the opposite, they are 2 bit operations who are trying to make a name for themselves by claiming they have converted people from other faiths.
If you scroll through the comment's on that video there's a part where they guy who's meant to have converted comments it's pretty apparent that it's fake, he claims to be from the UK I've never heard someone from a Sikh background speak Punjabi Urdu the way he does.
I'm not saying this kind of stuff doesn't happen but you can't get triggered every time some loony overly religious <banned word filter activated> posts something.
At the moment we should be more concerned with what Christian missionaries are doing in Punjab where they are targeting poor families by offering them basic amenities in return for them converting over to Christianity.
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To be fair it is a pretty good disguise.
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17 hours ago, Big_Tera said:
I was on youtube the other day just browsing like normal. But then I randomly decided to do a search on Sikhism to see the latest videos posted using the filter button.
Anyways I came across this newly posted video of a so called Sikh guy who "converted" to Islam and he makes his "testimony". I have not even watched the video to be honest. But its disturbing to see this kind of ant sikh videos. ie trying to gain more followers by using this guy to promote Islam.
Anyone know about this? I only came across it a few days ago. seems like something very new.
There is no evidence that the person was a Sikh in the first place, just because a YouTube channel with less than 2000 subscribers posts a video like this doesn't mean it's true, also, even if it is real, why get triggered by it, if the guy actually converted than maybe he wasn't really into Sikhi anyway, either way, it looks fake as hell to me.
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44 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:
That's probably a fight Mr Bittu isn't going to win, just sayin...
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2 minutes ago, puzzled said:
Lol I remember those I dnt think they do that anymore? They used to have a bucket and sponge lol
Do you remember the milk man and the milk truck with the crates lol.
And how they used to wrap chips in newspaper at the shop lol
Yeah, i'm old enough to remember those things but not "LOL" old....
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On 6/17/2020 at 9:11 PM, puzzled said:
lol i know exactly what your talking about they leave a note next to your seat and a small pack of tissues sometimes lol! first time i saw it like 7 years ago i thought it was genuine so i gave some change but i didn't fall for it the 2nd time lol
these romani gypsies, refugees, eastern Europeans etc already get money from the government and housing!
but i do feel bad for the "big issue" magazine people lol there used to be this really old Romanian lady trying the sell the big issue in our highstreet and she would be literally begging and pleading to sell it, she would be like "big issue pleaseeee big issue pleaseeee pleaseeeee big issue pleaseeee" for hours! non stop! i would feel bad because she was old and i would give her a £1 lol!
you know all these people that beg they ask asians more than they ask white people have you noticed that?
I used to buy The Big Issue years back, it was a pretty good read and the the person selling it used to make about 70/80 % on it, now i think they buy for half the price they sell for so the money they make has gone down.
On another note, the traffic light windscreen cleaners used to drive me nuts, i would take a 20 minute diversion when visiting my parents just to avoid them, that and they really didn't do a good job.
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This bears some relevance to this topic, it's worth a listen, it's a Singh from back in the day (Shere Punjab era)
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That's an interesting observation, a lot of us old folks (well, those who have children going through the education system) may remember going to school and having nothing but christian based assemblies with occasional "Asian" one thrown into the mix.
I think that's a decision parents have to take individually, if they feel that a Sikh ethos school should only mean they teach Sikhi then they don't fully understand how the education system works, i think what they are looking for is a Sikh religious school. My kids go to a Sikh ethos school in the midlands (not Nishkam), they have and take part in Sikh assemblies and ones from other religions, the make up of that school is majority Sikh, I've never heard of a parent complaining about it.
If by learning about another religion or taking part in an assembly somehow makes your belief in your religion less then that's something you need to work on, as i mentioned above, i grew up having to take part in Christian assemblies, my religion stayed resolute.