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4 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:
I don't get what you are saying. His dad was a keshdhari Sikh when he first come here. Dealt with race attacks, and Paul probably has more to highlight racism than any other Sikh here. That's not someone I would call a sell-out.
I didn't know his dad was keshdhari. But I remember from the photos it showed sikhs being forcefully haircut and being forced into islam in Rawalpindi. Those sikhs saw kesh as their strength and commitment to Guru sahib so either died fighting or were beaten into cutting them. When someone from those families that left Pakistan cuts their hair, especially in cases like Rawalpindi and other genocide areas, it spits on their memories and sacrifices, in a way making them worse as cowards and wimps that cut their hair due to sheep mentality as opposed to being tough and strong until forced by violent extremism. It also ESPECIALLY makes it worse as these were families who escaped anti-sikh genocide relatively recently as opposed to those who have to look at shaheedi such as chotta and wadda ghallughara as examples in the past.
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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:
Paul Chowdhry's family is from Rawalpindi.
but they cut their hair, so didn't completely escape and left part of themselves behind to the islamic extremism.
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https://youtu.be/IQxy5gRMB24 ਤੰਤੀ ਸਾਜਾਂ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਨੂੰ ਤੋੜ-ਮਰੋੜ ਕੇ ਪੇਸ਼ ਕਾਰਨ ਵਾਲੇ ਜਰੂਰ ਸੁਣਨ | Tanti Saaj and harmonium Conversation
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And how regressive it is to translate something so deep into the word God, and start bani translations with "God is One" or "there is One God", oh how low have we fallen!
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21 hours ago, chatanga1 said:No, from what you have described, this is the maryada introduced by the SIngh Sabha Lehar, now formulated by the SGPC and Its the current maryada at SachKhand Sri HariMandir Sahib.
didn't singh sabha lehar also remove and rip-up saroops of dasam granth from gurdwaras? which means the maryada might just be anti-dasam and still be beadbi...
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4 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:
What do you replace a harmonium with?
A rabab?
It's replacing a keyboard with a stringed instrument.
well it worked the other way round didn't it, when they replaced rabab with harmonium. Even Mardana's descendants in pakistan play harmonium, so they maneged to replace a string instrument with harmonium
3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:It's not the specific instrument per se, but the collective affect caused by the melodies, beats, and lyrics if we're talking about these things on the subconscious level.
yes but this effect does make a difference in thought and feeling etc!
3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:Harmonium Vs Rabaab is an purist argument of Tradition / Heritage. The bajaa hasn't made Sikhs nastiks, lol, it just means we eschewed an authentic musical form of expression for something comparably less rich in musical complexity and texture.
being anti-tradition and hinduphobic has made sikhs more naastik, such as being anti-dasam, anti-dhup, anti-jyot and calling these things bamanwaad and superstitious, and also creating a naastik shankawaadi version of chaupai sahib
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48 minutes ago, chatanga1 said:
It's best to follow whatever the tradition is of the place its happening at. Simple. The Panth has got bigger issues to deal with.
isn't beadbi of dasam bani a massive issue? It was happening at my mona relatives' house.
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ਜੇ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਪਰਮ ਪੁਰਖ ਉਪਜਾਏ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਤਿਨ ਅਪਨੇ ਰਾਹ ਚਲਾਏ ॥
ਮਹਾਦੀਨ ਤਬ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥ ਅਰਬ ਦੇਸ ਕੋ ਕੀਨੋ ਰਾਜਾ ॥੨੬॥
ਤਿਨ ਭੀ ਏਕ ਪੰਥ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥ ਲਿੰਗ ਬਿਨਾ ਕੀਨੇ ਸਭ ਰਾਜਾ ॥
ਸਭ ਤੇ ਅਪਨਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਯੋ ॥ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਯੋ ॥੨੭॥
जे प्रभु परम पुरख उपजाए ॥ तिन तिन अपने राह चलाए ॥
महादीन तब प्रभ उपराजा ॥ अरब देस को कीनो राजा ॥२६॥
तिन भी एक पंथ उपराजा ॥ लिंग बिना कीने सभ राजा ॥
सभ ते अपना नामु जपायो ॥ सति नामु काहूं न द्रिड़ायो ॥२७॥
All the great Purushas created by me started their own paths.
Then I created Muhammed, who was made the master of Arabia.26.
He started a religion and circumcised all the kings.
He caused all to utter his name and did not give True Name of the Lord with firmness to anyone.27.
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4 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:
I do believe the kind fo stuff you listen to and watch has a deep impact on your mind.
so I wonder what impact playing and listening to harmonium has had on the sikh panth since last century?
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8 hours ago, dharamyudh said:
The scholar who wrote the article.
ok. it's scholars and revisionists who added their manmatt into sgpc maryada, they are still given free reign and will do so until sikh leadership gets better and more traditional.
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I remember I went to a Sukhmani Sahib paat some months before lockdown, and the paati started reading kabyo baach benti and went straight to swaiya without reading Kripa kari hum jagmata.
So is it rude to interrupt the paati with the rest of Kabyo Baach Chaupai Sahib, or maybe even is it rude to not interrupt, ie rude to stay quiet? I am just thinking for if this happens at another family gathering in a house. Not asking for a big gurdwara programme, for that need a jatha of Singhs/sikhs to interrupt lol!
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On 4/22/2022 at 1:58 PM, proudkaur21 said:
Lol we are safe in other countries right?
If British government is going to behave like this, then maybe it really is time to petition the British Parliament to look again at their anti-sikh anti-punjabi Ratcliffe Line decision!
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but who is going to tell the keertanis playing harmonium in the gurdwara?
If harmonium is allowed, then how can we put down anything else? Harmonium players even damage keertan by using tunes from bhangra music instead of playing raags!
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On 6/1/2022 at 1:02 PM, Premi5 said:
oya jatta, go back to pakastan and take your bodda with you! =D
On 6/4/2022 at 12:53 PM, 5aaban said:Aussie Sikhs are a mixed bag. Most are fairly traditional though. So you would rarely hear of a women engaging in things like drinking although the men like to drink.
Shisha/Hooka culture in Australia isn't big so I don't know any Sikh who does that.
I know more Sikhs in Australia with 3-4 kids than ones in Panjab, who generally stick to 2 nowadays.
Bhangra culture is coming here but not as much as Canada, USA etc.
One thing that is annoying, like you mentioned, is the highly liberalised/secularised view of Sikhi thats spread among the past few generations. It does a lot of damage to young minds.
Is there a racism problem for sikhs and in schools? I was surprised with one of those freshie viral youtube channels where the family lives in Australia, and father wears pagh and the son has a haircut and has a warrior name like Tegh Singh. So is there a big racism problem like the uk sikh immigrants used to face decades back, from goray and schoolkids?
On 6/4/2022 at 11:30 AM, Premi5 said:They were probably equally as likely to be of Tharkhaan background . Tharkhaans are not only skilled artisans but many I have known play dhol and wear patka with trimmed dhari. Many Tharkhaans have been active in the UK Panjabi music scene, don’t forget that !
your other point - do we need our community to become demonised in the Uk media for us to develop the same type of ‘us vs them’ identity that Uk Paks developed around 30-35 years ago?
Because that seems to have brought them closer to their Islamic culture and away from Panjabi culture .alot of weddings I go to seems like some kind of kenya sikh is on the dholi team, can tell from the pagh. Also there are tarkhan background producers in the uk. I remember the tram beard was a big thing for takhans in the 2000s punjabi music industry!
On 6/4/2022 at 9:45 AM, dallysingh101 said:I didn't know this goes on. I'm not planning to go there anytime soon, but I'm glad you gave me a heads up so I don't have a heart attack if I came across it with no warning.
Our lot are clowns. F**k jut culture and it's prancing around at any given opportunity. I bet you the local sullay who pass by are probably laughing at the buffoonery. Apnay literally acting like kunjars.
Don't worry
wethey will get the pakstani jattas and pak punjabis to join in! Have you seen some of the pakistani weddings on tiktok, some of them are mad when doing bhangra, look a proper joke when doing it though so embarrassing..2 -
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I was ill for the past few weeks, with some flu or cold (checked for covid but not positive). For some reason, some illnesses make it easier for me to wake up, others make it hard. Actually some days this illness made me wake up early and other days it made me sleep very long!!!
Also, I have always found it easier to wake up early when in Punjab/India. I don't know why I find it more difficult in the uk?!3 -
On 8/21/2020 at 9:11 PM, GurjantGnostic said:
Hukamnama Takht Patna Sahib
The image is a Hukamnama from Takht Sri Patna Sahib, likely from 1865-1875. In listing the Five Senior Caretakers of the Takht, it lists them as the following: Senior Pujari Ganda Singh, Junior Pujari Dharam Singh, Granthi Charat Singh, Ardasia Gopal Singh, Sukhaee Karam Singh.
The Sukhaee Position was a senior position held at all Takhts, who's duty was solely related to preparing Sukha [Cannabis] for the congregation. The Takhts outside of Punjab, Takht Sri Patna Sahib and Takht Sri Hazur Sahib still continue this tradition to this very day.
AKAAAAL!
Do they still use Poojari term for Takht Patna Sahib and Hajoor Sahib in modern times? I hope they do!!! I am sure it brings out the hinduphobia in SGPC land and some people on this forum.
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On 2/16/2021 at 5:48 PM, Arsh1469 said:
One meaning of Ik Oankar which is in dasam granth says Oankar was the sound that created all. Kind of like the big bang though there are over a 151 meanings according sant sunder singh.
anything better than "there is one god". Seriously, why are we taught such nonsense meanings of ek onkaar???
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end of the day make sure you read Chaupai Sahib properly during Sodar Rehras Sahib paat before even considering reading full Anand Sahib during Rehras. We need to fix the damage done to Chaupai Sahib and Rehras by anti-dasam supporters like Bhasauria!
Make sure to read Kripa karee hum par jagmata.. ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰੀ ਹਮ ਪਰ ਜਗਮਾਤਾ and Arril before even THINKING ABOUT extending Anand Sahib. I would also encourage everyone to look at how much additional bani is added to Chaupai Sahib at Hajoor Sahib and Budha Dal. Read or listen to a sampooran Rehras with much dasam bani, and then consider adding full pauris Anand Sahib.
I usually listen to long Hajoor/Hazur Sahib Rehraas on PTC Simran on Youtube. Sangat jee, why not give this a go??
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21 hours ago, Premi5 said:20 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:
It's like you have to micromanage them or they're guaranteed to do dumb, contrived crap like this. Plus how old is Jajjy? I swear he's a middle-aged man now - a bit old for all this surely - but then maybe his main audience demographic are a bit mentally under-developed anyway. F**k all this low IQ jut bollox. People wonder why we Sikhs are behind so many other quoms - take a good look above for a big part of the answer. What planet are these lot on. And then you have other jut fudhoos (and fudhnees) complaining about blacks when their own lot are mimicking them left right and centre (as you can see above). Couldn't make it up.
I don't know if it's true but there have been rumours that he's been robbed of his khanda necklaces a few times in E. London too (back in the day).
yo Jazzy, what's the point of wearing the khanda necklace, or that gym guy wearing khanda tattoo, if all the 'jattz' look like pakistanis, is everyone tryna be a pakistani jatt yo? Need More real East Punjab Jattz! Bring back the old school jattz! Pagri Sambal Jatta
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On 5/24/2022 at 7:14 PM, Redoptics said:
If anyone fancies a go at making ps3 disc images, I have just uploaded a tutorial today, need 1000 subs before you can make some cash, help a brother out lol
use tiktok, you will get more views. I have got a mobile gaming channel on youtube and tiktok, we can follow each other.
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I am still sorting out my sleep schedule, but I feel 6am maybe too late now for amrit vela during the summer period, and actually 7am is better in some parts of winter.
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It's been a few years since I stopped home console and PC gaming. I stopped portable 3DS gaming a few years ago and have been mobile gaming for some years now.
I have been trying to get back into gaming on my XBOX one S, but things keep coming up, or sleep time keeps coming up lol
I wouldn't mind getting into multiplayer gaming where we can make money from competitions such as League of Legends, Fortnight or creating Roblox games, can we make money from Apex Legends and Minecraft? We should create teams which sync well for competitions. Other games we should just play really casually and not get too serious.
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will try to watch it later. But it's crazy to see people won' cut it for muslims but will vut their hair for whiteman gora recognition. We shouldn't be wanting anyone's recognition beside Guru. As soon as persons put someone else between Guru and themselves, then they fall down!