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Bro there's abortion clinics everywhere in Punjab because tragically its a popular demand. The baby was obviously thrown into the river because its a girl. In Punjab you can see abortion clinic adverts plastered in the shahrs Revenge abortion happens as well. In India my own cousins wife aborted his baby 5 times and then she used to tell him. Its very easy to get abortions done in Punjab.

One of the most disturbing videos I watched was of a dead new born baby girl floating in a river in Punjab, umbilical cord was still attached. How will the "parents" ever wash that sin off?

Basically yeah, think they call it "pro-choice" they completely decided to ignore what bani says, wonder why .... (Raag Sorath, Mehla 5, Ang 640) (Raag Bairaarree, Mehla 4, Ang 720)

Thanks, Its makes sense why she said Kabir Jis bani is sexist. Everyone should be aware of these people.

Yeah, we've had letters posted saying that a lot of cars have been broken into as well.

Don't give me any ideas to start my own cult ? Some "spirituality" in the mornings, and then some "spirituality" + group fun in the evenings ? Shri Baba Puzzled ji

? no bro, I'm barely at the starting line myself. Can't even convince the ones around me to get into Sikhi, let alone strangers ?

Yeah I've noticed a lot of older Sikhs have tattoos of Khanda on their hand. My nani had one.

Yeah, I've read a bit about Bhai Sahib and he was very dedicated to Sikhi, Parchaar and the freedom movement, and from what I've read he was loved by the sangat. Rumours about Sant Jarnail Singh ji being a congress agent have been around for a very long time. A lot has been done to tarnish the Shaheeds, some of it by the government while some of it by "sikhs" Yeah Its not surprising. My dads pind is Saini majority, a farming community. We're from Doaba which has quite a strong Saini community. Jatt-Saini Inter-caste marriages happen, which isn't surprising. My mothers friend is from a Saini family and she's married to a man from a Jatt family. From what I know UK Sikhs raised a lot of money. The video that uploaded today of the shaheedi samagam is from my local Gurdwara. We also had Bibi Bimal ji, wife of Shaheed Beant Singh ji, come to the Gurdwara to do a speech, But I was a couple of months old when it happened so I wasn't there, lol. From what I know some people from the UK did go to Punjab to fight, but it was far less than the number of Canadians that went. Theres a video of Bhai Avtar Singh Brahma and Canadian Singhs on youtube, target practicing.

Yeah, some people say he was an agent, but then why would leave the comfort of Canada and go back to a war zone like Punjab and live like a kharku ... Its easy for people to sit back and criticise Singhs who fought for the community. Punjab back in the 80s and 90s was basically a war zone.

Yeah I've definitely come across the "we're saved and God loves us more" type of Amritdharis, and they're normally from Amritdhari families themselves. I think that is the case with many. Some behave as if they were divinely conceived in heaven and then dropped off into their mothers arms by a stork. But like you said its not the case with all of them. I've come across so many Singhs who are so humble and giving. Sometimes you can easily read someone's face and get an impression of what they're like, lol proud and snobby people just can't hide it, it reflects on their face, don't you think ? lol

listened to katha about this a while back, but can't find the video now. I believe the story of the churning of the ocean is mentioned in bani as well. The Devte decided to churn the ocean to get amrit, the nectar of immortality, which was right at the bottom of the ocean. But it was a difficult task and they had to ask the demons to help them. Using a giant snake, a mountain and a turtle(Vishnu) they started churning the ocean. The demons complained that why should they hold the tail end of the snake? so they swapped and the devte held the tail end while the demons held the head, the exhaustion resulted in the snake releasing poison and toxic air towards the demons. They churned and churned, to the point of exhaustion, Vishnu then decided to give them strength. All sorts of treasures came out, beautiful creatures, devis etc but they kept on churning because it was the amrit that they wanted. After much effort they finally reached the amrit and tasted it. The story symbolises a lot of things. The devte represent the good in us, the demons the bad in us. The struggle represents our struggle on the path of spirituality and meditation, the churning represents our mind and removing the filth. After a very long struggle the first treasures started appearing, but these treasures were just some of the gifts that come with meditation, not the goal. After much more struggle they finally reached the Amrit, the nectar of immortality. When doing simran, it takes a lot of patience, you often struggle. And then you start experiencing the gifts, but these gifts are not the aim, after more simran/churning you finally experience the amrit. Correct me if I've said anything wrong ?

Didn't they investigate and find no proof of his involvement in the bombing? he was never convicted ?

Yeah its quite complex. We end up trying to see everything in black&white, when it really isn't like that. Though I haven't had enough time to get to know many Amritdhari families, I have already come across some disappointments! because that is what it is for someone who comes into Sikhi and sees the corruption. I think there is more corruption in Amritdharis who are born into Amritdhari families, than people who become Amritdhari. ??

Believing in the evolution theory goes against what Sikhi says, imo .... Bani says Waheguru ji first created the Khanda. Then the devte and then the demons to destroy the ego of the devte

Sikh "scholars" and "parchariks" to look out for, who distort Sikh philosophy, beliefs etc missionaries, feminists, "woke" Sikhs anyone who we should be aware of. Haven't really looked into her work but some lady named Nikky-Kaur-Singh ?? think she is a writer, said that "Kabir's opinion of women is contemptuous and derogatory" basically calling Bhagat Ji a misogynist. Anyone know more about this lady? Another one is Katy Sian. She is Anti-Sikh, especially Anti Sikh men, and a Muslim/islamic apologist. Everyone knows about Neki Karminder Singh Dhillon from Malaysia is another one.

True, but It depends though, the monas discussed in general are quite loyal, in comparison to the gora-fyed ones who basically are the complete opposite. I think it comes down to your family.

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Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Slough, 1993!

Talking of robberies, so many houses get broken into. South Asian houses get targeted. Most of the thieves around here have been Eastern Europeans. We've got cricket bats and hockey sticks in every room and behind every door lmao! 3 houses directly opposite our houses have been broken into! It was the South Asian houses that were broken into not Whites!

Yeah, they were shipped off to Africa by the Brits to work in the army and build railway tracks (which they like to deny) and then they started keeping Black slaves, they used call them "boy" which is what slave traders called Black slaves. The oppressed becoming oppressors? Yeah their own slaves started rebelling against them, along with the anti-Indian local Blacks, police and government and then they had to migrate for the 2nd time. Africans really should make a movie about this for Black history month, I'd watch it. Honestly no one really takes them seriously around here, lol they're considered coconuts and gora-fyed. Their youth are weirdos and their gurdware are empty. Very strange bunch of people.

I agree bro, Its important to create a balance and be realistic about it. These type of moneh get knocked down a lot by "religious" people in our community, and even on this forum as seen above, but its a fact that they will be among the first ones there to fight, and we've seen that in the past. When the riots happened a few years back, if I remember correctly it was around the time I started getting into Sikhi. While I was at at home watching the riots on tv, my "feral" cousin who probably goes Gurdwara like 1 time every 3 years, was sitting outside the Gurdwara all night with his mate. I sat at home not because I was scared, but I just didn't have that emotional connection with Sikhi even though I was the one that was supposedly "getting into Sikhi " Now it would be different though, lol But at the same time we should be honest, the things they do and the lifestyle they live, is wrong, and not in line with Sikhi. But its wrong to sideline them. There is a huge different between coconut moneh and the moneh being discussed above, night and day. Its important to know this. The city Sikh type folks despite wearing paghs and keeping dharis are just useless, even though they seem to think they are a voice for the rest of the community. Like I said, they would be the first ones to call for an Uber and leave the scene. It is complex. Do you think getting into Sikhi softens some people up? especially the type of moneh being discussed? or not ?

I know that the Vatican is involved in Satanic practices. Apparently they have an angle tied up with chains in the basement of the Vatican, lol that sounds mad. Some guy who was kept hostage at the Vatican saw the angle. He apparently made a video about it, someone wrote the title of the video for me to watch but I lost the paper. Some say the Catholoc church is the beast or the wh0re of Babylon. The pope has that pedo pattern on his robe. Its messed up really, isn't it.