JS79

1 hour ago, Akalifauj said:

Why does it matter who your father is?  You should respect your mother either way.

Why you so rude? It is so off putting when you talk. You sound angry miserable stubborn and a kid who tries to act like the badboys. Your language disgusts me you are vile. In most your posts you swear. And then you want people to read/agree to your posts. 

5 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

dhadrianwale is a fraud.

Look at him getting people to bow down to him.

This guy has not worked one day in his life.  He uses the sangats money to live lavishly and stopped ambulances from going first in traffic with a patient because he is a government stooge and was given a red light for his vehicles.  This government stooge also ran away from a protest after he and his buddy panthpreet sinh said they will give their blood for the khalsa Panth.  They ran to police vehicles and took off to a police station.  Rest of the sangat that believed in them were thrashed, assaulted with weapons and shot at with high powered water and firearms.  These two set up the Sikh sangat in that protest.  Its the protest where these fake Sikhs put blood in a bowl to give to badal.  

Dhumma is the other half of dhadrianwale.  They are both playing sangat to see who can get a bigger belly.  Never give your money to dhumma or dhadrianwale.  Both live lavishly and never have worked a day in their lives.  Always ask who runs a gurdwara.  If either one runs the gurdwara.  Do not give them any money.  Sangat works night and day to make a living and these bastards take the sweat and blood of the poor to live lavishly.  Only time these two sweat is when these bastards have to get up off their fat @ss to take two steps.

There was nothing wrong in that. Two people gave two different khandas and dhadrianwale did not want to dishearten them by not wearink a khanda. They are above one another therefore seem lile a kalgi. It was not rees of maharaj.

Secondly nothing is wrong in matha tek. Some gursikhs bow down to each other. Forget bowing down, Maharaj says 'meri khaloho moajre gursikh handande'. Make my skin into the shoes of those gursikhs!! It is about respect. Yes the sharda we have should be 'he is a gursikh' not 'he is god'. Some kids matha tek to parents. They do not see the mum and dad as god but it is a form of respect. Do we not take asheervaad from our mums? It is not wrong. However Dhumma did this is maharajs hajoori which IS wrong. That is rees of kalgidhar sache patshah.

Thirdly, many many years ago dhadrianwale have stopped people trying to matha tek them because some of us have little brains and cannot gather big concepts.

Haha sangat ji give your money to akalifauj he will take care of all matters. 

Babaji had a red light???? So you believe babbu mann songs just because be sang a line abt a red light. Hahah

We all know dhummas the gov dog. Babaji are a mahan gurmat parcharak. They dont ask for money babaji do not live lavish life and are very humble. 

You so jealous. 

3 minutes ago, Kira said:

 

...I've already seen all I need to see. You've yet to answer my question...

 

Hinduvaad is in almost every corner of sikhi. We are polluted by it. Of course i believe in bani i am not a missionary. But our ithihaas is full of lies. All i am saying i do not believe it is all maharajs bani. Pretty simple right. Whether you like it or not. I dont believe dasam granth should be on the same level as maharaj. 

Well then i have said all that there is to say.

3 minutes ago, Kira said:

The fact that you pick and choose what to believe and what to toss out is an sign of what kind of character you possess, I hardly need to be omniscient to know what that means.  I haven't brought up the Taksal here at all, You threw shade now at Bhai Mani Singh Ji's capabilities of knowing what Guru Sahib wrote and what he didn't. You insulted Mata Sundri Ji's own capabilities in knowing what her earthly husband wrote. Going by how you said you partially believe in the bani (and that you seem to do Nitnem with 5 banis) I would say you believe that Chaubis Avtar, Sri Charitropakhyan, Jaap Sahib, Akaal Ustat are amongst the bani you believe in? :)))))

I never pointed at guru ji or mata ji or bhai mani singh. I have no idea how u ppl jump to sich conclusions. Beyond me. Then again im not shocked tbb.

Sangat who has been reading my replies knows what i have said. I neved said anything abt mata ji.

Why dont you just interview me on the tv. That way you can see all my beliefs. 

12 minutes ago, chatanga said:

 

dhadrianwala has become a missionary mouthpeice. he is not doing any gurmat parchar. Watch this video and see how he is aping his missionary lovers.

 

 

 

No-one is what they were pre 84. Even the average Sikh in the pend isn't the same.

Awesome video jee. 

Dhadrianwale have explained it so well. 

No point comparing to sant ji. Sikhs can have interpretations that vary. Also, even sant ji didnt say have a bath in charandhoor. Haha.

Sikhs make progress chatanga ji. Who knows. If sant ji were alive they may have had more time to tackle hinduvaad. And maybe some panth gadaars would have tried to do a shabeel on them too!!

If you guys cannot understand babajis katha then no way will you understand from the likes of me. Best wishes ji.

You contradict yourself. To me you say 'whats changed in taksal' and now u agree that taksal aint the same. Well done. 

When we say taksal aint the same, it means in terms of aims objectives panthic sewa morals beliefs, giaan, behni uthni, satkar and priorities etc.

Huge thank you for this video.

2 hours ago, Kira said:

Please post the the story directly from Suraj Prakash Granth pls, the Granth is about 50,000 stanzas in length. MIracles were known to take place near Guru Sahib, all the time in fact. Will you now say that Baba Deep Singh Ji didn't fight without a head? that's all just fiction? 

Feel free to continue doing Nindya of it all, you consider yourself above Mata Sundri and Bhai Mani Singh Ji, both of whom were more intimate with Guru Sahib than you can ever hope to be, they complied the Granth so feel free to call them wrong. The fact that you doubt things that don't go up to your standard is all the answer anyone needs regarding your own character. 

 

Please provide records from Sikh history books predating Suraj Prakash Granth. History was meticulously kept in tact by Sikhs, this shouldn't be a hard job for you.

I dont memorise suraj parkash but next time i hear it i will deffo paste it to you for your awareness. 

Are you a onother chatanga? No where have i ever even suggested that. I have always and will always hugely respect baba deep singhs shaheedi. Why do all u guys on here think i am a missionary. 

My standard? I am not snobby. Taksal has dropped its standard ok. It hurts. 

You do not know me at all. Not even 2%. So you can not assume you know my character ji. 

I opposed darshan singh very strongly. Especially when he visited uk. I still oppose him. But I didnt know you are so intetested in my views. I know. I have an idea. Do this. make a table and in each column write a name and i can fill in whether i agree or disagree with the person! 

Er. No. Just because you believe something it doesnt mean everyone does. Dhadrianwale didnt kill anyone. Repeating a lie doesnt convert it to a truth.

Missionaries didnt kill bhupinder singh. Your leader did. 

Haha dhadrianwale aint the killers. We all know that. You blind.

You must hate it that the missionaries have more akkal than taksalis. And no. Firstly, i have never supported darshan singh and secondly, you cannot seriously judge whether it was whole heartedly or half because you havent opposed dhumma even quarter heartedly.

Gand? Stop repeating me. I aint missionary anyway. This is so funny. 

Guru granth sahib ji are 10 patshahiya di jyot. Do you not believe that? If u believe that then u wouldnt question singhunit why he has singh in his name. 

You need to reconsider your aim on this forum. Stop with the extreme opinions. 

35 minutes ago, Kira said:

It doesn't disagree with Gurbani, you haven't even read the Granth yet you're throwing shade at a Historian twice the Sikh you and I are. Guru Sahib spoke against hypocrisy but all you've done is shown you're just as hypocritical as the meat eaters you condemn. 

So we should believe suraj parkash word for word?

For eg take the story about guru ji doing sewa for 12 years. And suraj parkash says (and taksalis believe) that after 12 yrs guru ji had keere in their sees because of the 12 saropas.. How can we as gurujis sikhs ever believe this. Nobody says we cant question or ask such stories. 

Added:

Okay. There was me trying to be civil. And polite.

I have explained my view on dasam granth. Ill explain further. I do not do 3 banis. I read chandi di // i read jaap sahib  etc and fully believe its maharajs bani. 

I have stated i do not believe ALL of dasam granth as it is  not all maharajs bani. Okay? 

Go on call me a missionary rss athiest muslim hindu jewish devil etc. 

Yawwwwwwn

1 minute ago, Kira said:

I'm a vegetarian so cry all you want that I eat meat. I posted Gurbani that said hypocrisy is what's wrong, The fact that you're throwing history out the books is a sheer testament to how far you'll go to simply re-write things you don't like. I bet Suraj Prakash Granth is alright to do Sakhis from but once it disagrees with you then its suddenly all false. What a joke. The fact that Sikhs consuming meat is mentioned all throughout it is a sign it was written by Kavi Ji and not any form of foreign influence. Kavi Ji spent 40 years researching and compiling it. Feel free to post other historical records of where Sikhs are told "nah don't eat meat" 

No. If it disagrees with gurbani i will condemn it. Simple. 

Errr i think destructions the one crying ji. 

1 hour ago, Kira said:

Yes they do have souls, God resides within them as well. IF something is alive, it has a soul.

of course you would say that. 

And of course you would believe anything that gives you approval to eat meat. Suraj parkash is not dhur ki bani therefore it can have mistakes and milaavat. 

2 minutes ago, Destruction said:

Js79 is a beetch !

When people have no logic or people skills they just become hot headed and foul mouthed like you. You dont have the ability to listen to views. You have absolutely no intelligent input. 

Wash your mouth destruction. 

I bet you are now going to come up with some new sakhi as to why we should swear as sikhs and use any example on the planet to justify it like 'Dhumma swears and hes our god so we as his pets must follow in his footsteps and teach his wisdom on swearing'.

12 hours ago, Guest Mahakaal Taksaal said:

Only a matter of time before Taksali Singhs do sodha of missionary dushts like Dhadrianwala, Panthpreet, Dhunda, Dhapali, Sabhra

Taksal is already dead. No jameer.

Listen. Did indhira win by doing sant ji shaheed? No. Shaheed hon vala shaheed karan vale nu hara dinda. Losers. You so called taksalis have so much hatred. Sodha? You mean the paap of taking innocent lives. 

1 hour ago, Akalifauj said:

How convenient for you to call the post that attacks missionaries hate, but your a Muslim with a burqa when taksal is slandered by your Muslim husband @JS79.  You are a very obedient wife. 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why dont you just openly go and stand shoulder by shoulder with dhumma? Maybe fulfil your gay fantasies there too. You can be dhummas little obedient <banned word filter activated>. Current taksal will approve anything. No limits. 

Muslim? This forum is getting way too funny. 

Do you even know what words mean? Listen taksal killed a singh that is a fact you badal puppet. You taksalis are acting like muslim extremists yet you wana call me a muslim. You funny little boys.

Slandering is making stories up like Ajnaloo Baba does. 

Where do you learn such gand? 

Telling the truth is not the same as slandering.

3 hours ago, Kira said:

Read Suraj Prakash Granth you numbskull?

Suraj parkash is not all correct.

No

Harnam singh planned the killing. He paid it he gave his cars he was involved hugely. 

Most sikh history has been poisened by hindus. 

Haha whats missionaries got to do with it. Listen. I dont support em 100%. But atleast they dont kill unlike dhumma.

Mastermind? Dhumma. 

Funny how you like to highlight the fact that babaji have nice cars. Yet you forget taksalis killed bhupinder singh. There is evidence that babaji never shot. There is no point in explaining to someone who sees dhumma as some untouchable saint. When he is a murderer.

You are so funny chatanga. So funny. I call harman singh sometime. I sometime say dhumma sometime say bagarbilla. It makes no diff cus i have zero respect for him so regardless of saying singh it not it doesnt make me a fan.

If i said 'ji'. Then yes you could have made a point. Man you funny.

How though? So because i listen to bhindranwale does it make me a taksali? No of course not. You make no sense. If i listen to akj kirtan does it make me an akj? You have some weird theories there. 

By supporting the killers you are activiely licking dhummas shoes. 

I think you a taksali fanboy. Have you considered following maharaj? You should try it also. 

Hahahahahahaha i worship darshan singh? Have u not read a SINGLE thing ive written. Its okay. You can always go back and re read my posts. 

Also, i have had more than enough experience dealing with taksalis too. I can see you are blinded by jathabandi and cant wait to call others missionaries and this and that because your jathabandi is so miserable and empty.

Waheguru

May maharaj get rid of such jathebandis. We dont need killers. 

Taha bekunth jeh keertan tera.... whereever we do kirtan that is heaven. 

Raaj na chaho mukat na chaho.... i dont need power nor mukti.

84 lakh joons are birtiya of the mind. We people get these characteristics by animalistic actions. The only hell and heaven is what we experience presently. 

There is no dharamraja. Maharaj uses dharamraj as an example because it would help ppl understand. Like chittar gupt, are chittar gupt bigger than maharaj? Why would maharaj need dharamraj and chittar gupt when maharaj is sarab biapak and all knowing. Again and again gurbani uses examples. I can see disagreement here already.