NaamTiharoJoJape

2 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Copy yourself a version by hand. 

you mean like become a likhari? handwritten pothi? i dont have any experience regarding binding gutka sahib 

1 hour ago, GurjantGnostic said:

You could be, don't know how to spell this, licari of it by copying the digital?

can you elaborate bhai ji? 

Anyone know how to obtain physical saroop of the pothi? 

On 1/7/2022 at 5:18 AM, proactive said:

The simple way to put it is -;

 

The American declaration of Independence was ratified on 4th July 1776

The US constitution was ratified on June 21 1788. 

and there was quite the amount of chaos in the mid 1780s that would have torn the country apart 

On 1/8/2022 at 11:53 AM, proactive said:

You don't know what you are talking about. Just because her mother who was 14 didn't know about Santji doesn't mean that most or even a vast minority of Sikhs were unaware of what was going on. Santji had been in the news for over 3 years by 1984 and in 1981 an aircraft had been hijacked to demand is release. You kids think that Bluestar came out of nowhere. What was happening in Punjab was being reported across India and even abroad and yet the Sikhs in villages a few miles from Rode or Chowk Mehta didn't know what was going on. You do know that before social media and the internet people did know what was happening in the state as well as across the world.  You seem to think that the Sikhs were just wearing blinkers for the few years before 1984 and did not see the rise in the paramilitary forces in Punjab and the daily harassment they faced from the CRPF in Punjab. 

 

yeah and what was being reported was biased against sant ji 

sant ji had hundreds of thousands of supporters, hundreds of thousands attended sarbat khalsa 1986 and partook in dharm yudh morcha but millions of common folk arent involved in quami sangarsh and were neutral or more concerned with running a household, do you know about the average person in the late 80s/90s, not everything was revolved around kharku singhs and the lehar (outside majha) even though it had a large impact, there were other cultural phenomenon taking place in entertainment industry that eroded the chardikala spirit of the youth during the 90s 

majority of sikhs/punjabis were gumraah and asleep back then and its only gotten worse or better in some ways today 

On 9/12/2021 at 2:24 PM, dallysingh101 said:

My go to in these situations is a slow recital by Giani Thakur Singh - even if he did allegedly try and kiss some janani.  

giani thakur singh's katha of japji sahib is based off of and mostly parallel to the sampardai vidya/sant giani gurbachan singh jees katha so it works and he is easy to understand 

Just now, dallysingh101 said:

I think both were done (and other things). What's been recorded might be a very minority practice that could be argued was rational given the mass genocides and hordes of informants of the time? Obviously it wasn't a majority practice.  

hanji paatshaho 100 percent agree 

Just now, GurjantGnostic said:

Keeps them from taking Amrit. 

how would it different for them to take Amrit mixed with blood of boar/pig compared to consuming boar's blood in general 

wouldn't there be a difference in serving them boar's blood mixed in pahul as opposed to make them consume it outside amrit sanchar to test them 

was there a similar tactic to filter out possible Hindu infiltrators 

14 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

Yeah, I mean you can really see this now especially with the split in Budha Dal. Last time it really was a unified unit was under Baba Santa Singh Ji.  The SGPC and Badals propagated Balbir Singh to take the jathedari. 

Balbir Singh and Badals.

 

It seems like all the real ones get taken out. I mean these guys were responsible for getting Baba Surjit Singh Ji arrested where he eventually passed away because of it, and later Baba Bahadur Singh Ji who was a straight Jangi Jarnail man. 

and Jathedar Baba Prem Singh ji did akaal chalana in a "car accident" 

7 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

Let me fix this actually, because I don't know what every single person of Panjab was thinking. From my personal experience, from speaking with elders, they had no idea what was going on until after the attack and until years later. These are regular, Sikh village folks who lived their day to day lives. I can only go off of what people have told me. However, this notion that Panjab all had this uniform thinking about what was going on isn't the whole truth. This is a better way to phrase it. 

exactly, unless you were close to Taksal or an Amritdhari sikh, chances were you would be unaware

not everyone could just tune in to sant jis speeches or katha on the doordarshan channel and find out what was going on so majority of even the sikhs blindly followed the "moderate" Akalis (it was only during peak of Kharku lehar in punjab that some rural areas like that of tarn taran became majority supporters of the kharkkus)

7 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

Nirankaris are still around bro. I actually seen their dera here in Canada oddly enough. 

the son of the <banned word filter activated> hardev was killed in a car accident in canada if I remember correctly 

8 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

Cowardice has many shapes and forms when it come down to the topic of ‘Khalistan’.  

Some say the whole world should be Khalistan not just Punjab.

Some say Khalistan should be made in Pakistan Punjab before Indian Punjab.

Some say everyone must become Khalsa before we talk about Khalistan.

Some say Khalistan should only be the demand of people within Punjab.

Some say Referendum will not achieve Khalistan.

Some choose to ignore the subject and stay silent like the majority on this forum.

All are mostly signs of cowardice!  Your wasting your time about this subject on this forum, as the majority of posters here are people who are disconnected from the real world. 

 

 

I somewhat or strongly agree with all of those except the starting with pakistani panjab part 

1 hour ago, shastarSingh said:

No. Not him.

can you specify who you were referring to? 

On 12/31/2021 at 12:05 AM, proactive said:

This is the type of reaction you get from brain dead people who will believe that someone is a Mahapurkh without even bothering to see what that person has done which has elevated him to such a position. The person this guy thinks is a Mahapurkh is someone who allowed himself to be used by Indira Gandhi and who was doing 'kar sewa' against the wishes of the entire Sikh people while the army which had murdered hundreds of pilgrims were walking around wearing shoes and smoking and drinking and providing him protection. LET THAT SINK IN.

Knowing how the Nihangs of old used to treat anyone even threatening to smoke in their presence, the fact that this 'mahapurkh' was ok with Indian army walking around smoking just shows how much of a Gaddar he was. 

what about baba nihal singh harianbela and the nanaksari sants, they were also present alongside baba santa singh when kar sewa was done following operation blue star

On 12/20/2021 at 5:05 AM, Premi5 said:

I think that also. They're big into Kabaddi. 

Anyone with any ideas why ?

Majha-wale, I can understand, but not with the Doabe-wale. Any historical or cultural reason ?

most sikhs here in doaba are from lehnda punjab and many from the himachals (pahari raje and sipahis) , something to do with that perhaps? 

2 minutes ago, justasking said:

Chohan are Rajput, but some Punjabi rajputs have become assimilated into Jatts  like Virk, and call themselves Jatt well others remain calling themselves Rajputs. In Doaba the status and the lifestyle is pretty much the same with minor cultural differences.

makes a ton of sense 

1 minute ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Grewals and other Jatt clans were ex-rajputs who become Jatts.

that seems prevalent amongst a lot of these clans nowadays considered jatt

bhattis and dhamis would be examples too? 

1 minute ago, justasking said:

aroras are a sub branch of khatri i thnk like kamboj is subranch of Jatts

so basically aroras are a type of khatri 

2 minutes ago, justasking said:

 

I dont think Punajbi rajputs r relate to khatris I know some janjuas and parmars and they look closer to Jatts than khatris and they also r mostly rural community my family comes from hoshairpur and we have a rajput pind pretty close to us 

sorry but im getting curious bout my own lineage here, chohan/chauhans are rajputs or jatts? 

and is there a difference between sodh and sodhi, I heard katha of vadde mahapurkh on sri guru ram dass ji maharaj prakash utsav and they referred to their lineage as sodh vansh instead of sodhi