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22 hours ago, puzzled said:

Most people are just cultural Sikhs or cultural Christians etc  They simply call themselves Sikhs or Christians etc because that just happens to be the religious tradition they are born into!

Like you come across a lot of Sikhs who have parents from two different faiths saying that they are "half Hindu and half Sikh" or that they are "half Christian and half Sikh" lol      

This has been going on for some time now. A very very long tome age when I was In primary school there was a girl and her dad was Muslim while her mum was Sikh and the girl used to say she is "half Muslim and half Sikh" lol!   both her parents were non-religious and never attended Mosque or Gurdwara or any religious celebrations, but she still called herself "half Muslim and half Sikh"  

I'm coming across more and more Atheist Sikhs. They are Atheists but still call themselves Sikhs, they still associate themselves with ithiaas, fire works on Diwali, eating samosas at nagar kirtans etc 

"religious" people are just like any other people, they just carry a religious tag with them.    

those half and halfs make me laugh. more times over they're just coconuts. You can't be half a religion LOL. You know which type I find the most annoying though are those athiest sikh types who are anti Sikh freedom and just want sikhs to assimilate wo what ever culture be it Western or indian I know few guys like this.

They'll be so anti khalistan and say this and that is backwards but still wanna stick to nagar keertan and lecture non sikhs about how great sikhs are when it suits them

im from canada and i say pan, pind, kidda instead of kimmeh, loon instead of noon my family is from Doaba region near nawanshar, Here in Canada most ppl i have met were either Doabis or Malwa recently there has been increase in majha ppl , I think doabis are more prominient on the West coast, and ppl from malwa are more near toronto brampton

however i do not have any relatives in UK that I know of  besides my dads mama da munda who got deported 

DIsgusting  this is a good man making a honest living killed by 2 thugs who chances are wouldnt have done anything good for society other than have multiple children with various men who gonna leave the picture anyways. Atleast Mr Anwar will be in heaven, tragic senseless loss for his family nonetheless 

13 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

This is pure lies.

Juts struggle with with accepting nonjuts as equals. Some twisted notion of supremacism is a norm, even if a handful of western educated juts claim to not believe in it (and make no difference to the situation anyway). There is systemic abuse and oppression of Mazhbhis by juts. Girls are abused too.  

They love alcohol and have deeply embedded caste based politics in even premier Sikh institutions, where they buy people's votes off with alcohol no less.  

Self-aggrandising to delusional levels seem to be a norm amongst them (look at all the videos and songs......), and they consistently fail to face up to the negative effects they have on the panth - to the point where they've actually decreased numbers by treating others so bad that they have left the panth. To top that all off, from what I'm hearing from relatives back home - hordes of juts themselves are converting to christianity now - for some perceived benefits. Juts dominate Panjabi politics, it only stands to reason that the current state of affairs on the ground there is the fruits of their own endeavors. 

And I've worked with Panjabi juts in construction quite a bit - so you can't tell me that I don't know their habits. They routinely rip each other off (not paying wages after getting work done). 

Before attempting a 'progressive approach' at least have a solid understanding of the problem - which is rooted in the cultural norms being practiced.

It's ridiculous to constantly try and highlight the jut contribution to the Khalistani lehar, whilst failing to acknowledge that those at the forefront of brutally suppressing it, were mainly juts themselves, who outnumbered the kharkus. That's what's worrying now. If it kicks off, how many sociopathic juts will join ranks with the gorment and do what they did during the 80s/90s? 

everything your saying is a lie man jatts atleast here in canada put there sikhi first Jatts have married in to Tarkhan families rajput families etc, I know of Minhas family marriage with Grewal, Hunjoon with Dhaliwal. Karku leaders of Canada were Brar Leyat Parmar, etc you cant be trying to divide community like this

17 minutes ago, Suchi said:

Depends on what you mean by that. A Jat Sikh woman I know was thrown out of her home at 16 when it was found she had a boyfriend. She spent years living on her own and tried to commit suicide 3 times.  She ended up in a relationship with a married Sikh man for years and having a child from him.  She's now a Christian due to lack of tolerance from her own community.

If she'd been in Punjab her life would have been ruined.  Luckily she survived. 

You can't expect the community to thrive if this sort of treatment is regularly meted out for transgressions of rules that are alien to the local culture.  

There has to be compromise if people want to live outside Punjab.  Hence the reason for communities still suffering after decades of being in Western countries. 

kicking out shouldnt be the first thhing she should be disciplined a few apneh r starting to become like the goreh there r very easy solutions to these problems

the parent r right

On 3/12/2021 at 12:07 PM, puzzled said:

Yeah, some people say he was an agent, but then why would leave the comfort of Canada and go back to a war zone like Punjab and live like a kharku ... 

Its easy for people to sit back and criticise Singhs who fought for the community. Punjab back in the 80s and 90s was basically a war zone. 

I heard these rumours to but these are baseless claims. Elders that were knew him remember him being very much inlove with Sikhi but the man was very fiery and a bit overboard (my mama who wasnt Gursikh at the time told me how my Nani would tell him to stay away from Parmar and the Singhs associated with him) this is because he had lost young relatives and close friends  in fake encounters and Operation blue star really turned his heart. Him and other Singhs were actively recruiting Canadians at the time to go back and fight. Im not trying to sound castist but it was pretty much only cetain communtiies doing this among those mostly Jatt, Saini and  rjput i think these are the ones tht moved mostly to canada also look at how they didnt care about caste were all 1 . I have very little knowledge of UK karkhu movement other than UK singhs raised lots of money i dont know about any active drives to send youth back to fight if u have any details on tht it would be interesting  

3 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Didn't they investigate and find no proof of his involvement in the bombing? he was never convicted ? 

his story is pretty shade the canadian intellegince allegdly had videos of him and bhai Reyat actually testing explosives in a forest in vancouver island which didn't help. and also they wire tapped a house in Burnaby in which Bhai Brar  and Parmar were in discussing plans to blow up several other planes. He never got convicted but was killed in India as we all know. still very well respected and lovedamong the community however there are certain segments tht hate on him and these same gurdwarey tht do also have commitees tht allow inter faith wedding and run a party hall 

On 3/12/2021 at 8:50 AM, TigerForce1 said:

Yeh I did hear it was really bad for them.  I also heard that quite a large proportion of the people that turned on them were the servants that worked for them.  You won’t hear any of the Kenyan crew talk about how they morphed into the ‘brown imperialists’ working for their firangi masters.  They treated their black servants like dirt.  They would go on hunts and have black servants run behind their vehicles for miles whilst they roll played being White Imperialists.  They would also feed them the jooth that was left over from their plates.  Then they came over to the UK with their Peugeot’s and Volvos and would look down on Punjabis and call them pendus and janglis because they worked as labourers and came from farming backgrounds.  In fact they distanced themselves completely from the Punjabi community and set up their own Gurdwaras/Club/Halls/Societies and only followed babeh that toured in Africa.  They are usually portrayed in images that have them sat on leopard skin, maybe because this allows them to claim some ownership on them.  To cut a long story short this community has created more division and pushed cast segregation more than any Punjabi Jatts as DallySingh would have you believe.  They still romanticise that period of time as the good old glory days. 

Jatts are very open accepting ppl sure they have downfalls but all community do and  ive never  ever seen jatt only gurdwara. most canadian karkhus were jatt saini or rajput like Lakhbir Singh Brar(Jatt and Sant Ji Nephew)  Inderjit Singh Reyat  (ramgharia caught by intelligence testing explosives in forest in Vancouver Island) perhaps most notorious of all Talwinder Singh Parmar(Rajput/ scapegoat for allegedly blew up air india plane)