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  1. 3 hours ago, SarkaarEKhalsa said:

    ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਿਹ !!!

    My name is Sarkar e Khalsa, i've been registered quite a while but have become a regular quite recently. That aside, I'm a Singh from Manitoba Canada, seeking virtual Gursangat that can help guide me, although I'm quite young I've grown toward Sikhi through some Singhs I met here that taught me shastar vidhya, and ithihaas, however I'd like to grow...Any help and any sangat would be welcomed

    Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh 

    Welcome to this forum Veerji??

  2. 11 hours ago, puzzled said:

    I wouldn't be surprised if people send Diwali cards or messages with images of Diwali babes on them lol! Like how you have those cheeky Christmas Cards and messages with girls on them lol, unless it's already happening. 

    Nagar Kirtans are the same, everyone goes there to socialize and eat lol when we were in School everyone used to go there to meet up with their gf/bf. Boys also used to organize fights lol! 

    The nagar kirtan ended at Ramgharia Gurdwara and there used to be a mela in the park opposite, a lot of the uncles used to drink alcohol near the bushes.

    Basically Nagar Kirtans are like Punjabi carnivals.  

    We never had a Nagar Kirtan in my country before.I had to go to Malaysia to see one lol.

  3. On 11/15/2020 at 6:49 AM, puzzled said:

    When we were kids we used have huge Diwali parties. Dad would spend £500 on fireworks, 

    Wow,in my place we don't have a single firework during diwali,vaisakhi or any Gurpurabs.No Nagar kirtan even.We just go to Gurudwara Sahib,hear the kirtan and have langar then we go back home.


    2 hours ago, Kaurr said:

    For us we normally go to the gurdwara in the evenings and play with fulcharhia and the diva, whilst stuffing ourselves with pakore and samose and sweets with our mates. If we were in Punjab at that time we would go crazy with the fireworks. I've cut back on the fireworks recently, becoming more environmentally sustainble. Still use the fireworks in Punjab, just not as much.

    What is a fulcharhia?We never had that in my country ever.Not even in Vaisakhi or Gurpurabs,probably cause the population of sikhs here are so little.Only about 8000 out of which about half are mona.And when I say mona I mean like extreme not into sikhi.They drink alcohol, get involved in gangs and smoke.Most of them dont even come Gurudwara.Then out of the other half who keep their kesh and turban, about 40% of them drink as well.So theres only like 900 or 1000 people who come to Gurudwara.Super sad.In my Punjabi school theres only 50 students my age.Out of which only 2 or 3 Amritdhari or at least following sikhi but haven't got the chance to take Amrit yet.The rest of them are either trying to act like gunde. Alot of sikhs in my country left and migrated to Australia or Canada.

  4. 48 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

    Gurbani says 

    ਲਿਵ ਧਾਤੁ ਦੁਇ ਰਾਹ ਹੈ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਕਾਰ ਕਮਾਇ ॥

    (ਉਸ ਵਿਚਾਰੇ ਉਤੇ ਭੀ ਕੀਹ ਰੋਸ ? (ਸੰਸਾਰ ਵਿਚ) ਰਸਤੇ ਹੀ ਦੋ ਹਨ (ਹਰੀ ਨਾਲ) ਪਿਆਰ ਤੇ (ਮਾਇਆ ਨਾਲ) ਪਿਆਰ; (ਤੇ ਮਨਮੁਖ) ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਦੇ ਹੁਕਮ ਵਿਚ (ਹੀ) (ਮਾਇਆ ਵਾਲੀ) ਕਾਰ ਪਿਆ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ 
    Loving attention to the Lord and attachment to Maya are the two separate ways; all act according to the Hukam of the Lord's Command.

    Guru Amar Daas Ji in Siree Raag - 87

    Thank you for the amazing Shabad veerji.I will think more of this.

    Bhul Chuk Maf ??

  5. 4 hours ago, brotha said:

    Brother Saheed4life,

    all that you describe above, could not it well be a result of our on karam?

    Because if that was the Hukum (partiality to have more or less), it would be much unfair towards those who have sufferings or pain or etc, just because of His Hukum.

    That would be seen as unfair from His side if it was so, but thank god, it is not.

    Of course. our karam, our destiny, is a law, which is  executed under His hukum, which means, as does one sow, so does one reap, and not because He wants to  favor you or disgrace you, for above everything He is an infinite Ocean of love and mercy.

    In that respect Gurbani tells us:  

    ਹੁਕਮਿ ਰਜਾਈ ਚਲਣਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਨਾਲਿ ॥੧॥

    Hukam Rajaaee Chalanaa Naanak Likhiaa Naal ||1||

    हुकमि रजाई चलणा नानक लिखिआ नालि ॥१॥

    O Nanak, it is written that you shall obey the Hukam of His Command, and walk in the Way of His Will.

    So, as seen above, if we obey the hukum of His command and walk the way of His will, which is being vitous, and of throughly cleansing ourselves with the Amrit of His Nam, then, we shall not incurr in any karmas for which we would have to keep on rolling in the wheel of 84.

    We are all foreigners in this land of untruth, or we could say, we are guests in His this creation house , so we should be careful to not harm or misbehave anybody with word, speech or thought, for then we shall be incurring in karmas for which we will undoubtedly have to come back and settle.

    In another verse, Guru Jee tells us :

    ਹੁਕਮੀ ਉਤਮੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਲਿਖਿ ਦੁਖ ਸੁਖ ਪਾਈਅਹਿ ॥

    Hukamee Outham Neech Hukam Likh Dhukh Sukh Paaeeahi ||

    हुकमी उतमु नीचु हुकमि लिखि दुख सुख पाईअहि ॥

    By His Command, some are high and some are low; by His Written Command, pain and pleasure are obtained.

    Though it is clear in this verse above,  but His command for us means, the law of karma, our own sown seeds, and for which, we get pain, pleasure, and any such thing with which we encounter or have in our lives.

    Everything created by Him, is subject to natural and perfect laws, such as law of gravity, law of karmas, etc.  It is only that we fail to realize His command as such, for we are lost in haume, anyhow, His hukum is infinite just as His greatness,  so we can never ever decribe it .

    Sat Sree Akal.



    What I meant by Hukam is also based on karam.Its similar to what you said.Let me give an example if a person insults someone who is handicapped and does bad things to him then it is in Hukam that the mean person should be born as a handicapped person.

    Bhul Chuk Maf ??

  6. 12 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

    Perhaps there is Vaheguru’s Hukam that regulates EVERYTHING in all of creation, and within this Hukam  there is Satguru’s Hukam in the form of Gurbani ,Gurithihaas, Anubhav Gian, that is meant for guiding lives of Gursikhs.

    Perhaps Hukam can be understood differently according to our own avastha. For those still living in duality, there is free will, while those who are merged will see all as predetermined Hukam.

    For example, there is “ everything that happens is in His Hukam”. This to me feels like the overarching Akaal Purakh Vaheguru’s Hukam that runs the whole show.

    Then you have “It is Guru Ji’s Hukam that we rise early and meditate on His Name”.

    You also get “Guru sahib sent a Hukam for the sangat of Kabul for such and such actions”. Which seems like a time specific Hukam(order).

    With this differentiation, I suppose we are all in Vaheguru’s Hukam regardless of our actions, while having a choice to follow Guru’s Hukam for a Gursikh life.



    Hanji that is true too.That we can only go to Gurudwara Sahib or wake up in the early hours during Amritvela Sahib by Hukam.However, it is our choice if we want to go to  Gurudwara Sahib and end up talking to others or if we go to Gurudwara Sahib and learn something so that we can apply it in our daily lives.

    Bhul Chuk Maf ??

  7. 4 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

    So these things happen outside of Hukam?  

    Disclaimer: please don't be scared of the question.

    Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh 

    Hanji veerji bad crimes happen out of Hukam most of the time except for some cases.For example in the autobiography of Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh ji, Bhai Sahib mentioned that in his previous life he was a prince and one day when he went to a cave he saw a very old person meditating.I can't remember the exact story now but basically what happened is Bhai sahib tried to put food in the meditating guy's mouth and ended up breaking one of that guys teeth.In return the meditating person came out of his meditation and got angry as he was disturbed and took a weapon and aimed it at Bhai Sahib but it ended up in Bhai Sahib's bodyguard's leg.So in next life the bodyguard took Janam again and shot the Meditating Guy who also took Janam again.He shot him in the leg as well.So these kinda of things are more of Hukam as they are more of Hisab. Where it has to be balanced.

    Hope I helped 

    Bhul Chuk Maf ??

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