Suchi

3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Iranians are wonderful people, moreso Western ones. I know a few, and even with my critical eye, you can sense by reading between the lines that Islamic doctrine is just so removed from their natural, relaxed Persian demeanour, that it's an absolute tragedy that particular belief system was foisted upon them centuries ago.

Perhaps that's the reason they were overcome within 15 years. What happened to their defences? 

5 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Yes, a good summary of how the "original" Sikhi (if not in a standardised or codified sense but more a philosophical idea) has been co-opted and almost warped to serve an antithetical agenda. BUT we (as in the rank and file) have allowed it to happen. As much as we can blame Brahmins, Brits, and the rest of it, our apathy and our greed has led to this situation. If we'd stood firm, nobody could've taken the pashaab.

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I would also add something of my own: having read up on global history over the millennia and associated spiritual ideas of various cultures, one consistent strand that reveals itself when we look at how belief systems are corrupted is through their respective Priesthoods. For me, this is a problem. If your mode of worship or spiritual path is predicated on the core idea of requiring a intercessionary figure to perform prayers, rituals, or even a saint-type figurehead, etc., it's safe to say your belief system has been corrupted. The eternal struggle between the Warrior and the Priest is well documented (the wiliness and politicking of the Priest eventually winning out), and perhaps this is why Guru Gobind Singh realised the ideal Man is one who embodies the best of both ideals. Just something to consider.

Ultimately, the key is the quality of the individual, regardless of the philosophy being proposed. 

Whilst the leaders of any group may possess supreme qualities, that even perhaps a few of their followers manage to emulate, most are unable to do so especially if their leader has gone.  Hence why in times of war, the leaders are targeted first as the rest will fall away once he is captured. 

So any system of control is always vulnerable until it has been established for decades with all the group members strictly adhering to rituals or inculcating habits that will see it thrive for generations.  Otherwise it will fail at the first hurdle. 

8 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

-Modesty

- Resistance to liberalism

- higher birth rates

- alphaness 

These 4 points are connected. What do you think it is? What is the common denominator here?

Islam is a 100% patriarchal system of control. 

Worse than any criticisms you can make of the caste system. 

The only difference being they won't allow their women to speak, let alone complain. 

And what is the punishment for apostasy again?

Western liberalism has been created deliberately to enfeeble non Muslims to make Islam seem superior. Falsely.

I wonder how much of this strategy is at play today?

6 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I am not talking about the sport/activity, I am talking about the framework.

Tiddlywinks is merely a vehicle like cricket or the entertainment industry is.

If the opportunity is there for the government apparatus to exploit the situation they will.

The govt own and sponsor them. That is how freemasonry is able to control the population. 

11 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

If playing tiddlywinks became all the rage in Punjab and Surjit Thumbwalla and Flippy Singh became household names you can bet your bottom dollar that the Congress and BJP will be courting them 

That's not how it works. These characters are created to fulfil a certain agenda and encourage youth to follow them. 

Once they become popular they offer 'opinions' which the gullible millions make their own. Hence political objective is fulfilled. If they veer off course  they are dropped like a hot potato otherwise handsomely rewarded for being an obedient slave.

Hence why most are silent at times when individual morals and discernment are required. 

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

If any Sikh forum has any point, it would be to condemn this type of stuff and offer an alternative to it. 

This sort of thing has been going on for decades. Well at least since the 1960's when discos were being popularised. 

It is an answer to those feeling depressed, unjoyful or oppressed in some way. Or simply bored. Those leading satisfactory lives would not be attracted to such behaviours. For that to happen, it usually means parents show care and affection as well as support their youths to fulfil their dreams. Encourage education, hobbies and ensure their time is spent in useful activities. Spirituality has very little to do with it at this point in their lives. 

I have neices and nephews of mixed race that did not go off the rails or indulge in such things. Their parents were atheists. There must have been something worthwhile, to their mind (this is key), they were doing instead.  And they were. They were reading, learning instruments, had regular holidays, working towards goals, encouraged to think for themselves. 

As far as Muslim girls are concerned why they are more compliant to their culture may be because they are greater in numbers  so their peer groups are in the same culture. Their time is spent in studying, learning household chores and in the community. But there are others who indulge in shameful behaviours. Many years ago I heard of some in full hijab going to work, changing into Western clothes with full makeup etc and indulging in illicit sex and changing back into their drab clothes before they go home.  Yet others who had indulged in sex before marriage were forced to get their hymens replaced in order to marry. 

The problems of puberty have always been there.  How we deal with it is dependent on what's deemed acceptable in a particular age. 

In some cultures girls were married off early to avoid them bringing shame to their village. We now desire and encourage our youth to delay marriage and procreation for financial gain. 

Whether it is better can only be decided by the individual concerned. It seems though, on the whole, people are happier than before. So it has worked. 

20 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

The thing about it is, is we don’t need everyone to be hardcore religious, but rather we need everyone to be loyal to the faith and the community as a whole. Jinnah was a cigarette-loving and pork-loving Muslim guy, but he still came for his Panth on issues he felt were important at the time. Whether some Sikhs end up weaker on the scale of religiosity is less of a problem when compared to politics, we can talk quality over quantity anyday in a spiritual setting, but on a global scale, such things will only push those weak in their faith, but willing to assist us in other ways. 

There's no such thing as loyalty in politics. It's all about getting and retaining power. As without power it is difficult to implement policies you need or want. 

And about Jinnah, you're wrong there. He was a British stooge forced to lead the Muslim League and was dragged from his plush Hampstead lifestyle to do so, in 1933. The fact he managed to do it without detection is testimony to what the media can pull off as they operate on certain agendas they are paid to support. So all actors really. 

2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I've heard of it but the billion dollars seems a bit much. If the intention was to take him out, then why bother with the bribe?

Maybe to use him overseas perhaps? 

Murder case filed against Bill Gates. 

6 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Make it 60 just to be safe.

Also in the above article it says the woman's first husband accompanied her to the second marriage in Pakistan? Does that sound like the kind of thing a resident desi would do willingly? He's more likely to kill himself or his wife. This sounds like a Bollywood plot where the spurned beta love interest "gives away" the object of his affection to the stud to prove how pure and noble his unrequited love is, lmao. 

It's a story straight from the Quran emulated by none other than the current PM of Pakistan. 

It is said that the Prophet Moh fell in love at first sight with his adopted son's wife. After having a revelation telling him adoptions were illegal, his 'son' divorced his wife so she was free to marry. 

Similarly, the Imran Khan's wife was given a divorce so she could marry Imran. 

So power politics at play, it seems. The king has full authority to have his desires fulfilled regardless of morality. 

Who is the new husband I wonder? 

34 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Good, no ?

Not if the MSM continues to censor news in contravention to our rights to freedoms under various laws and conventions, in order to further a very particular agenda against the general public's interest. 

5 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

What would you recommend for prevention and treatment Bhenji?

Apple cider vinegar, 1tsp 3 times a day. Or bicarb of soda, 1tsp daily to kill bacteria. 

3 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Gangu Brahmin is the blood ancestor of Indra and Nehru

You're wrong there. Their ancestors were Muslims, hence favoured by the Brits in return for the Kingdom of Kashmir in years to come.  Gandhi/Nehru were adopted names which aren't Brahmin either. 

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

South Indians are on average more education focused than most people regardless of religion. They send their bache to spelling bees and all that. 

South Indians are also mild mannered and calm which makes for a potent mix in the ideal corporate employee. 

I have met quite a few of these types whilst working in IT myself. There is no comparison between them and anyone from other parts as they are also the cream of their batch so highly intelligent and efficient. 

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I just wonder if Ravi's subversion is intentional or does he just sleepwalk.

Has he got complete cognitive dissonance?

 He is very supportive of the Yazidi but yet at the same time he inadvertently supports an ideology that trying to support them. Can he really be that blind?

It is like talking about the dangers of type 2 diabetes whilst at the same stuffing your face with a box of Ladoos. 

You see the same mentality with people who are pro-LGBT and who support Sharia Law for muslims, not realising the latter will annilihate the former. 

 

The Yizidis were enslaved by the Jihadis from India during their various sieges.

4 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I don't see the point of usIng the gurdwara for prayers 

Muslims can lay down their mats and pray anywhere: on the street, in the park, in a lounge.

But to do this, is like capitulating  

Muslims are probably thinking , " What a bunch of mugs, we do not need to conquer them, they are letting us do this! Alhamidullah! "

They are blocking public parks and roads during Friday prayers hence why they are requesting the use of private places. 

I don't believe there is any necessity to pray in large groups. Hence they can pray at home and should do. Moreover these gatherings are generally politically where they are told what to do to further their jihad. Hence against the public interest. 

21 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

So...if everybody owes money right...then who do we owe it to?

Federal Reserve, a private entity of billionaires? 

On 11/24/2021 at 1:51 AM, Suchi said:

I believe in the rule of law. 

So let the law prevail. If there is evidence of breaking any, then an FIR can be filed.  

There are bigger fish to fry than her, funded by very powerful groups.  Such as Congress that is in power in Punjab where evidence exists that they masterminded the Mumbai terror attack of 2008. Yet nothing has happened to anyone. There are international elements bent on breaking India so that is the first priority. Muslims are part of that. Perhaps because Punjabis are still voting for Congress is why outstanding disputes remain unresolved. 

I understand an FIR has been filed by the Bihar govt. 

Hence, perhaps why we have so many cases pending. 

She stood up to the corrupt Maharastra govt involved in the murder of Sushant Singh Rajput and was bullied as a result and afforded security, so she has earned some respect. 

And closer to home. 

What happened to our right to question our so called leaders: