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21 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

didn't sarbat khalsa used to pick the budha dal jathedar? when sarbat khalsa was called, the misls got together, and outsiders like phulkian misl or sometimes even ramgharia misl did not usually come to sarbat khalsa, nowadays I don't know what the criteria is for who is allowed and who not.

 

Normally the akal takht jathedaar should wear bana and be shastardhari, I do not feel this has been the case for the last 100 years...

Sarbat Khalsa used to meet every 6 months in the past, I don't think we had a new jathedar every 6 months.

Just now, californiasardar1 said:

It’s easy. Just be on the path to baldness (like me).

You need to calm down on your stress brava.

On 5/6/2022 at 5:03 PM, dharamyudh said:

Bro, idk if it's just me but I feel like these guys picked Jagtar Singh Hawara to just appease the sangat with a respectable figure. Why else would they choose a Jathedar who is locked behind bars? Doesn't really make sense. They know there is a very low chance that he'll ever get released from the clutches of the Indian government. 

I will never acknowledge the SGPC Jathedar over the Sarbat Khalsa Jathedar. Ek hai Guru wale Singh, Ek hai Mahant. 

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Did you get that gym equipment btw?   

I was active before covid, and am now trying to get back into fitness.

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I wish you lot would show half as much interest in your own heritage than you do with this. 

Our own lot destroy our Sikh heritage more than anyone else in the name of "Kar sewa"

On 4/27/2022 at 6:42 AM, Suchi said:

According to Ajit vadayakil, Mohammed was from the Namboodri Tribe of Kerala responsible for the care of the Kaaba and idols they worshipped. Therefore high born. 

Who tf is Ajit Vadakakil?

7 hours ago, dharamyudh said:

Interesting. According to Suraj Prakash, SatGuru Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji Maharaj had a Haavan wedding. 

Guru Sahib probably did, but again we can't do everything that Guru Sahib did and assume it's ok for us to do the same. We follow the Gurus hukam as Sikhs, not copying what he does, and Guru Sahib's hukam is "Anand viah binaa grahist nahee karnaa" (Not having marital affairs without Anand Karaj)

13 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:

I'm not exaggerating anything. I have a hard time thinking of any mona I have met who has said "I am supposed to keep my kesh, but I don't. I should." Instead, they will make all kinds of arguments about why it is not required:

- Kesh is only required for amritdhari Sikhs (many people on SikhSangat even say this)

- They only believe in the first 9 Gurus and not Guru Gobind Singh (as absurd as that sounds, I have encountered multiple people who have stated this)

- It's not written in the Guru Granth Sahib that you need to keep kesh

- Kesh does not mean you are a good Sikh (and then they will give some examples), so it is not important

- Some shaheeds were monay, so kesh is not important

- What matters is what is in your heart, not on your outside

- lots of keshdharis/amritdharis are bad people, so kesh is unimportant

I could go on and on

 

Who is driving these guys out of the panth? They are already doing whatever they want and exerting greater control over Sikh institutions. On what basis do you claim that people are driving them out?

Nobody is pushing them out. Instead they are redefining Sikhi to suit their own lifestyles. And then people on SikhSangat complain about Sikhi being watered down.

Only Rehatwali Amritdharis should have power over any Gurdwaras, the problem with opening too many gurdwaras for business is a problem that Guru Sahib will surely punish the Panth for. Also Dil Saaf people are a lost cause unless they are willing to learn. Even Guru Sahib doesn't help those who claim their views are superior to Guru Sahib.

12 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Muhammed was illiterate he could not read or write.

I'm not sure this is accurate, Muhammad was related to the Quraysh tribe who pretty much owned all of Pagan Arabia religious sphere, and also the fact on his death bed he wanted to write something, but his disciple Omar didn't want him to write anything.

7 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Shaheed for speaking out against Islam on purely doctrinal terms (its spiritual fallacies and frailties as a faith), or shaheed for supporting enemies of the ruling Islamic regime? History points to many, many instances where religion was used as an accepted front to persecute opponents of the political state.

In your example, which one is it most likely to be minus any emotion or biases on your part?

Even if remove the Sikh aspect to this, Sufis as a whole have been persecuted throughout history by Muslims, similar to Christian Gnostics with their religious brothers/sisters. If hypothetically Sikhi was an Abrahamic religion founded we would go that route as well, (as some Sikhs are currently transforming Sikhi into an Abrahamic faith). 

On 4/21/2022 at 10:35 PM, SinghPunjabSingh said:

1. You are advocating Ethnic Cleansing which is the opposite of Gurmat. Sikhs were a minority in every district of Punjab in 1947 and constituted 14% of the Punjab population at the time.

2. That is exactly what Hindutva thinkers who hate Sikhi want you to say. They realise that if they put out enough hateful rhetoric on Twitter then some of our people will take the bait. The small minority of Hindu's who are Twittersphere haters against Sikhs realise that if they can provoke people into making the type of comments you have made then they can ensure that ONE BILLION poor Indians who are falsely defined as "Hindu's" can be prevented from learning about Sikhi and becoming sehajdhari Sikhs overnight and Sikhs comprising the majority of the Indian population in a country where the economy will have a size of around $42 TRILLION by around 2050. That's why need to stop giving oxygen to Twittersphere haters against Sikhs but work on encouraging converts as that will yield the Sikh Panth more dividends. 

1.1 BILLION people cannot be generalised like this when a billion of them are poor and struggling in life and have never held a bad thought about Sikhs in their life. But we are ignoring parchaar to them despite our Panj Piare coming from as far afield Karnataka in south India and Gujarat in west India and Orissa in east India etc.

There are paid goons in all Indian communities. KPS Gill, General Brar and the Punjab Police of the 1980's exemplify this too. But the 250 million people defined as so-called Dalits are natural born Sikhs if we only explain to them that East Punjab is the only state where:

*the recent Chief Minister (Channi) was from a so-called "Dalit" background

*the Chief Jathedar of the SGPC is from a so-called "Dalit" background

*the majority of Granthi's & Gursewaks at Gurdwara's are from a so-called "Dalit" background

*the number of so-called "Dalit" MLA's have consistently exceeded the number of Jat MLA's since 1980

*the majority of Kesdhari youth left in Punjab are from a so-called "Dalit" background

*so-called "Dalits" comprise 33% of the east Punjab population in contrast to Jats who are 21% of the population 

*Singh Sabha was driven forward by Giani Ditt Singh Ji who was decried by Muslims and Hindu's for being a Chamar

And given the majority of the Panj Piare were from a so-called "Dalit" background ...

Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji was appointed the leader of the Sikh Fauj by Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj despite the Muslims scoffing that according to the Mughals we Sikhs were led by just a "Chamar" in their eyes.

Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji as we all know were among the bravest of the brave despite the Muslims hunting for them as a "Bihari Churha" (in Muslim eyes) whilst Guru Sahib proclaimed "Rangrete Guru Ke Bete" (Dalits are Guru Sahib's own beloved sons).

We as Diaspora Sikhs need to up our game and stop being so weak in doing sewa and parchaar about Sikhi to 250 million so-called "Dalits"

We could make a start towards this by ensuring only one united Gurdwara for all in every pind in Punjab and every locality in the West.

I'm sure you genuinely believe in everything you are saying, but realistically speaking none of what you are saying about Hindus is true. If 80% of Hindus hate us, what does it matter if 5% of them might potentially be our allies? Alliances aren't about emotional responses, but rather politics, in situations where Hindus assist us we should be their allies, in situations where Muslims benefit us, we should be their friends, in situations where the West can be our allies, we can work with them; however, to be a ghulami and then say let's make Hindus into Sikhs is stupidity, only sovereign people can say that, and Sikhs of today are ghulami of either the West, India, or other external powers.

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Outliers sent by God to reform but whose efforts are overwhelmed by the majority.

Or a slightly more cynical perspective: individuals who realise the evil and the contradictions of the religion they're born into, but are too afraid to leave or make waves against the status quo, so decide to straddle the fence by nudging for introspection whilst not making themselves enemies of the orthodoxy.

If we look at the Hindu and Muslim bhagats, they would be seen as those against their religion rather than loyal to the orthodoxy of their respected faiths. Peer Buddhu Shah himself was made a Shaheed for going against the orthodoxy of Aurangzeb/Islam to assist Guru Sahib. 

4 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

I am not the most knowledgeable person about rehat, but it does seem to me that certain things (such as a requirement for women to wear dastars as per the AKJ, and vegetarianism) seem to have come to prominence in the last 100 years or so. Now, maybe these were originally parts of rehat that were lost over time due to wayward practices and the AKJ and Taksal and other groups were bringing them back. I don't know.

However, alcohol being forbidden seems to not be controversial. Or am I wrong?

Most Sikhs weren't fully versed on Rehat, and there were multiple maryadas. According to one Maryada the punishments for the 3 Kurehats was only 100 rupees, but for an Amritdhari to cut their Kesh was death and even though Guru Sahib himself, (Vaheguru's own light upon this earth), took upon Tankah for bowing to a grave, it wasn't really that common for Sikhs to do Tankah for misdoing the rehat from the time Guru Sahib left the world till about Singh Sabha. 

3 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

The concept of being sehajdhari and nanakpanthi was big. Religion back in the day was more about allegiance than following it to the letter. 

Amrit shako, kes rakho wasn't a big rally cry. Think about it a century before ranjit singh, it would be ridiculous to begging ppl to take amrit when they could be killed tortured for it. It was imperative that you do it of your own free will.

And because ranjit Singh was from a Sikh family, maybe that was enough to be Sikh. 

Ranjit Singh had to take Amrit back then because all Misls had to be Amritdhari, the British originally did the same with their British Sikh regiments of having on Amritdharis, (who took Amrit from a British sponsored Punj Pyare).

The thing was back then, being Amritdhari wasn't something that was seen as only religious/secular, and lots of people historically took Amrit for personal gain. (This actually increased during the Sikh Empire).

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On 12/14/2019 at 12:52 PM, GuestSingh12345 said:

I have a taksali kirpan that looks like this: 

Its not really going to be functional if it ever needs to be used in a fight because the tip is curved.My question was where can i get a functional sarbloh kirpan, can we use modern day knives that are sarbloh like the m9 bayonet or a whole list of knives used by soldiers in special forces here and use it with a gatra: 

http://www.themodernsurvivalist.com/archives/1633

 

Buy from Hazur Sahib, there's a shop that has special shastars: pappu bhai shastar shop, 

1 hour ago, Jassu said:

 

Lol why do people insist Pakistani Punjabis and Indian Punjabis are very similar and have similar culture. We don't. Their culture is entirely influenced by Islam. 

 

 

I'm interested in those South Indian states, why they got a high population of incest?