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A great leader for real... but just shows that people in punjab do not want Khalistan.... For good or bad is up to u to decide... Khalistan has both goods and bads...

Who said that Congress doesn’t help the pends.... They are the party which made all the roads in Pends.. Captain the former CM of Punjab... Full filled all the premisses made by Badal... The land prices in punjab went up during his time.. The industry moved into Punjab. And the best thing that Captain has done is solved the river problem... All you Karhoos what neither did Bhindranwale or Akali who made the Morcha were able to stop the river water from being diverted in to Punjab.. It was the very own Congress with out any propganda stoped the river problem... Which was the cause of Bhindranwale and Akalis.

The masses did not support terrorism and they dont support Khalistan if they did how come non of Manns candidates won. If the masses supported Khalistan then there would have been a revolution not an armed sturggle. Just like in Russia. Mr. Bhindranwale resided in the temple because he was guilty of killing many Hindus and was aware that the government would have boombed his sorry <admin-profanity filter activated> long ago if he did not seek protection. So to save him self he ran in to the Akal Takht. Disobaying the Sri Guru Granth Sahib, Tohra and The 5 preists. He threatend to get the preists removed if they did not give him the permision. Well if u have been to Harimander Sahib then you would know that the Akal Takht is above the Sri Guru Granth Sahib and that no guru in the past has ever thought about living in Akal Takht that also with arms and ammunition. a little refreance... When Shah Jahan ordered his army to arrest Guru Hargobind Sing Ji. Hargobind JI decided to leave Amritsar rather than endangering the sacred Harmandir. He never saw Amritsar again. And here is your so called Sant Ji.. who not only ruined the honor of sikh comunity, got himself and his folowers killed, but also got many innocents in The Golden Temple Killed as well. I guess in your eyes he holds a higher seat than the Gurus and SGGS Maharaj. And about the Attack on Akal Takht... The government was more than justified... Well, if a group of terrorists hide in a hindu temple, give order to kill Sikhs, Kill Inocent Sikhs who come to vist the temple in the mask of religion. Do you think the government would not take action.. If it was a Hindu temple the police would take them out the first day. If Bhindranwale cared even a little bit for the Akal Takht he wouldnt have used it as a bunker to take out Army men... And im not just making the bunker part up... its in both books by Barar... and Marktully i have a picture of it as well... If there was a "SIkh" Cause not the Theives cause... then there would be masses and if there are masses then there is a revelution and a revalution supported by masses in unstopeble... What was the governments hand in the Punjab Crisis... It was to break the Akali vote. How? by creating a new party... they decided to give rise to Bhindranwale once he became popular the Sikh vote would break between Akli and Bhindranwale... Making the majority Hindu vote go to Congress. To make sure that Hindus voted for congress they proved to them that Sikhs were a threat to the Hindus in Punjab.. How?? By sending informers in Gurudwars they would brain wash Sikhs get them involved give them weapons and order them to shoot Hindus... Where do you think all the terrorists got their weapons from.. It was all the police.. and when the crisis got out of hand and the government ordered to put a stop to the terrorism It all cleared up in months..... .... 350 Sikh Militants caught in one night in Ropar area.. How is it possible??? because the police knew who had weapons where they lived and what they were involved in... So when they killed all these militants which they themselves gave rise to... The rumor spread that the police were killing innocents in Punjab... No one went to the core of the issue.. The police gave rise to them and then eliminated them... And ill tell you how... The police informers who claimed to be religious people in gurudwaras brainwashed these young sikhs... when the Sikhs got Sentimental they told them that he could only server the "cause" if he got a gun.. The guy would rob a gun from his village..then he would be ordered to kill a easy target.. The police informers told them which way to take to avoid the police.. Once the terrorist had killed his target he was doomed for real. Then they would threaten him that if he left the so called cause they would tell the police about his doings.. So there was no going back..... If Sikhs wanted Khalistan who come none of Manns candidates won... Even he lost in his own area.. Neither did his son win a seat. Come on.. tell me.. It is not a matter of debate its pretty clear... Sikhs have freedom...

Shiromani Akali Dal chief and former Chief Minister Prakash Singh Badal and his son Sukhbir Singh Badal (left) in Chandigarh. Prakash Singh Badal and his family, was charged by Vigilance Bureau, on November 22, for corruption. Badal had piled up assets worth Rs.4,326 crores during the five years the Shiromani Akali Dal-Bharatiya Janata Party (SAD-BJP) alliance was in power in the State. That sum is more than 10 times the State's outlay for education in the Eighth Plan, which is Rs.412.78 crores; well over half its projected plan expenditure of Rs.2,882 crores; and a staggering 8 per cent of India's entire projected defence expenditure for 2003-04. A house owned by Sukhbir Singh Badal in Chandigarh. Orbit Resorts, a five-star hotel in Gurgaon, Haryana, identified by the Punjab Vigilance Bureau as belonging to the Badals.

Okey well I have been trying to ignore this long speech and I probably will.. Just write a summary. 1984 was not crap no not at all but repeating the past for the present is just plain wrong. Indian government according to you was wrong. I agree, (I wont use Sikhs, because a true Sikh who follows the SGGS Maharaj would never perform the acts which were led by Bhindranwale’s men) were no better. There is a saying in Punjabi that you cant clap with one hand. The whole crisis were created by Indra Ghandi and Bhindranwale. Both of them died so we are equal. Actually I am tiered and am not going to write the whole thing. There were only a few hand full of Sikh Shaheed’s who died for a reason. The rest were thieves In search for quick money. That includes almost all your shaheed bhia Khalsa’s. I’ll just write my points and we can argue on them. 1) Bhindranwale Baba was not a Sant. 2) The government of India was justified in attacking the Akal Thakth. But not The Golden Temple. They should have found an alternative to eleminate Bhindranwale and his men. 3) There was no cause. There is no Sikh cause. If there was a cause Khalistan would have been created a long time ago. 4) Khalistani terrorists were created by the government and when the time came they were eliminated within months. Rajive Ghandi was the core to Khalistan problem after he was assassinated terrorism in Punjab stoped. 5) Sikhs in Punjab do not want a Khalistan. They don’t need a Khalistan. Times have changed since 1984. 6) The final statement which hits the topics tittle. (((SIKHS HAVE FREEDOM))) What are you cribbing about?

Badal the new elected Chief Minister of PUNJAB.... Why?? Why him?? why not Captain why not anyone else for that reason. Ughh... I hate that cartoon..

Oh my god well I am here with the most saddening news of 2007 Badal has won the elections in Punjab and the future of Punjab is doomed for 5 years. 5 years of unstoppable corruption. Well for you Khalistanis you can just dream for Khalistan now. The coward is back in power. Ughh its pissin the hell out of me.

Man I cant get over Sarpanch he talks way too much crap which makes no sense... Jassa you are my man...... For real... Mann is a full out Khalistani who left his job IG of police for Khalistan and has been to jail for the cause... You could not get a better Khalistani leader... Well we will see how many seats his party gets.... Have you realized that all the Kharkoos have no reasons, or a cause to support the best arguments that they can come up with is ARE YOU HIGH.... And Using Rivers Instead of see ports.... I cant get over that one.... INSTEAD OF POINTING THINGS TO SARPANCH, TALK TO ME, POINT OUT THINGS. Talk to me like a Sikh brother and tell me why we should not get khalistan? Tell me why we should get khalistan???? and for once don’t repeat the same old crap... 1984 <admin-profanity filter activated>... You are demanding Khalistan now in 2007 why?? Sikhs are not deprived of off anything.. They are living in a Democracy with every right that a man can get... No wonder no Sikh in Punjab wants Khalistan.. So Why should we get KHalistan????

And by the way Mr. Sarpanch a pro Khalistani.. If Khalistan is created it well be a god dam useless country... because it well be run my hopeless people like you... So Khalistan well use its rivers for trade instead of Sea Ports eh.... Is that not the dumbest thing that you have heard in a while..... Before you talk about Khalistan go get 1st grade geography classes. ((( Where the hell do you think rivers come from)))) LOL is that the voice of Sikh youth???... Admin plzz delete that entry by Sarpanch... Because It shows the limits of dumbness...... people like you will take Khalistan to another level... After that post of yours you should be too embarrassed to write anything about Khalistan actually anything at all. I am not Anti-Khalistan but demanding Khalistan because of a dead cause is just wrong.. People in Punjab are living a peaceful life and plzz let it be that way…. We don’t want anymore bloodshed....

It all sounds easy init... We well do this we well do that... eventually when Khalistan in created it well be nothing more than a backwards corrupt country. Just look at India 50+ years since they got their freedom and is still one of the most corrupt countries in the world... You can just about imagine what khalistan would be.... In India we have a corrupt SGPC and a Corrupt Political leader Badal.. Any ways it would be an extremist government.. During the times of bhindranwale girls at school were told to wear blue and cover their heads and all that crap.. A Khalistan would be like Saudi Arabia.. LOL anyways all u Kharkoos we aren’t going to get Khalistan…..

Let me restate my question its a bit miss leading... this way.... The reason why you claim that Sikhs want khalistan is because injustice was done to Sikhs in 1984 rite... You were definitely not the guys who were affected... And more than half of you guys are not even in India.. The guys who were affected by 1984 crisis are still living in India?? Why?? If India is so unjust then why are they still living in India... If India is so unjust.. Then how come i roam the streets openly without being discriminated... My question... Are Sikhs being miss treated in India? Do Sikhs In Punjab want Khalistan?..... Let me tell you what if the answer was yes then the fight in India would still be on....

My Khalistani bro… on this website for many years I have been hearing the same “crap” that you project. (We will make khalistan.. Injustice… We Can.. etc…) well let me tell you what… it will be hard but u might as well digest some hard heavy truth…. YO CANT AND YOU WONT BE ABLE TO DO SHIAAAAAAT’’… You know it as well… that you r willing to do nothing more than be a internet warrior like SaRpanch.. who I believe is a government official.. And who ever that u think r ur Khalistani brothers.. who walk besides you.. LOL is nothing but your very own ego… you referred to SGGS man tell others the truth which I already know by answering this question… How many times have you read SGGS…. Never “in-it” M8… you r a kid bro and its about time that u stopped going to khalistani web sites filled with crap… Alite I am going to get down hard now yeh… For all of you guys who think that you know too much… I challenge any Khalistani on this website to prove to me that Sikhs Want Khalistan…

SArpanch is getting really pissin off man.. his same extremism nonsense is getting on my nerves... Let me make something clear to all you Kharkoo Singh’s Khalsa is free it has no enemies and is in Chardhi Kala.. So stop repeating the past to brain wash young Sikh youth... And no more useless debates on Khalistan plzzz....

Dude Captain in the best.... The only reason why he might loss this time is because unlike badal he didn’t use media.... Badal bought many new channels to propaganda.. They all claimed that badal will win so that the people who were unsure whom to vote for.. would under the pressure of media elect Badal for 5 years of corruption...

Lets hope that Captain comes in to power... He has done so much seva for Punjab that his good deeds are countless... Down with Akali Dal... Badal man that <admin-profanity filter activated> hope he dies and so does his son Sukhbir... I don’t remember a single thing that he has done in favor of Punjab... except opening a 5 star hotel worth 500 corores... mind the spelling... from all the money he looted from our fellow Sikhs... SGPC wasn’t an exception for that <admin-profanity filter activated>... the least that he could have done was to open the hotel in Punjab at least a few Sikhs would have benefitted from the jobs provided. I do support mann but its obvious that he wont come in to power.. I wish Captain comes into power... Fingers crossed... And when will all the illiterate people of Punjab learn that they are not voting for the panth but for a corrupt leader who will take Punjab another 5 years back if he comes into power. Sukhbir is a looser who doesn’t know what he is talking about most of the time... This is what he said... “For many years my dad (Badal) has been doing seva for Punjab. Now give me a chance to do the same and in future my son will do seva... His son is 5 years old god dam it... Give him a rest... Do you realize where this is going. Akali Dal is a Badals party which will run in his family. That means corruption corruption corruption... Akali Dal... stands for Curruption with full velocity....

..............................................................................WaheGuru Fateh. WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, WhaeGuru Ji Ki Fateh..................................................... totally agree with Gurbar Akaal... And by the way.. What about the Air India flight which was blown up in Canada there were more than 30 Sikhs on that plane... Keep your assumption to your self boy... And why do you always come up with extremism bull crap SaRpAnCh???? There are so many extremists on this website... After a while they get on to your nerves..

.........................................................................WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, WhaeGuru Ji Ki Fateh....................................................................... I couldn’t agree more to Sardar Dholi.... Every time there is a debate Sardar Dholi comes up wid a Logical point and all da other Kharkoo Singh’s Show there appreciation by neglecting his view's.... And that’s because sardar dholi plays Dhol which for some reason the Kharkoos think is against Sikhi... Show me where it says in the Bani not to play Dhol.. Matter of fact the Bani is meant to be sung and when it is instruments are used... Even in the Golden Temple... Like Sardar Dholi said the only reason people don’t like Ghandi is the very fact that he is a Hindu... If u have other valid reasons to discriminate Ghandi Theb post them in bullet points.... Second off all there is no comparison between Ghandi and Bhagat Singh... Ghandi did what he had to do In his non violent ways.. and Bhagat Singh did what he had to do in his violent ways... (((( I would actually say non-violent because he threw a non damaging bomb in the assembly where as he proved he could have thrown a proper bomb which would have killed many people in the court))) Both of these peoples contribution resulted in a Free India... And for your information Bhagat Singh wasn’t a Sikh he did cut his hair and shave his beard and dressed up like a Britisher to escape the heavy curfew.... So where does the Ghandi Sikh relation come from??? Mod note: watch your language in future.

The people who are poking fun off sikhs for money are """Bhape"""... hate is a strong word and i shouldnt be using it... but honestly i have had enough off these jack <admin-profanity filter activated> mofos.... They claim to be sikhs but dont qulify.... They are cowards... They cant stand up for them selves... They are crafty and wily businessmen... ( The four C'ss "Chust-Chattur-CCHANT-CHALAK") They prefeer hindi over punjabi.... they are hindus dressed like Sikhs... they rape little kids.....

That makes sense.... Back in 1980's the reason so many people chose to become Narankaris was because of discrimination in punjab due to cast systems... It wasnt the sikhs or hindus, but ht people belonging to lower casts such as Choorey Chammr who became Narankari's... they would rather be called a Narankari than ""Saley Chamaar"... well thats what i think Might be wrong....

......................................................................WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, WhaeGuru Ji Ki Fateh . ............................................................................ Dal Khalsa was created to harass the Akalis..... Down Wid Dal Khalsa... it shall rott in hell...LOL

What’s up wid u and """friend""".... First off all the link only mentions Lohri 2-3 times in da whole document... And it never mentions a direct relation between Lohri and da Female Feticide and Infanticide in Punjab... Plus what makes dat Link a reliable source??... You are making two different arguments ( 1. Female Feticide and Infanticide in Punjab 2. Boycotting Lohri..)) at da same time and trying to combine them forcibly.... Such as by using the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji... Which is wrong... The guy in dis document which u are using to justify your utter bull crap about Lohri... Focuses on Female Feticide and has no clue of why Lhori is celebrated.... ((( Is this the source which encouraged you to rite this bull crap... THIS IS A UNRELIABLE SOURCE.. written by some one who has done none whatsoever research about Lohri...))) Ill tell you where I am getting my info from... I asked a few Sikhs in my neighborhood, my dad and my grandad in Chandigarh... They all had the same reason for the celebration of Lhori... Dhula Bhatti Wale... who rescued Indian women from the Muhgals who kidnaped them.... if you have a problem with Female Feticide and Infanticide in Punjab... write a post about that and what u plan to do about it... Rather than postin bull crap about Lohri ( Just to get attention) which has ntn too do wid it... ............................... Okey Friend..........................

Thats not what the debate is here friend. the debate is whether such festivals as Lohri which celebrate the male child contribute to female infanticide. The report published above seems to suggest so. YOOOO....FIRTS OF ALL LOHRI IS NOT CELEBRATED TO FAVOUR BOYS OVER GIRLS...... AND IT SHOULD BE CELEBRATED....

.......................................................................WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa, WhaeGuru Ji Ki Fateh................................................................................. okey about Lohri.... Nobody knows for sure as to why it is celebrated.. but it was definitely not for favoring boys over girls... One of the stories behind the celebration of this festival goes like this; Somewhere between Gujaranwala and Sialkot in Pakistan now, there was a thick forest called Rakh. There used to live a Muslim Dacoit named Dulla Bhatti, the Robinhood of Punjab. He was brave, generous and provided maximum help to everyone in distress. During the reign of Jahangir, a middle class Hindu who was a jealous and a cunning man spread a rumor that his niece was very beautiful and would do credit to muslim harem. On hearing this, the mughal officers wanted to carry her off forcibely. The girls father was extreamly worried and sought the protection of Dulla Bhatti. Dulla at once got her married to a young Hindu boy at a simple ceremony in the forest. He lit the sacred fire in keeping with the Hindu custom. Since there was no priest to chant the holy mantras, he broke into a hilarious song composed extempore to add some fun to the occasion. This song is sung even today on the occasion. The song goes ; Sunder mundriye Ho Tera kaun bachera Ho Dhulla bhatti wala Ho Dulle dhi vaiahi Ho Ser Shakar Pai Ho Kudi de boje pai Ho Kudi da lal pataka Ho Kudi da salu pata Ho Salu kaun samete Ho Chacha gal dese Ho Chache churi <admin-profanity filter activated> Ho Jimindara luti Ho Jimindara sado Ho Gin gin paule lao Ho Ik paula reh gaya Sepai fadh kei lai gaya Sepai ne mari it" .................................................... There is no reason that it should be banned.. anyways no one is going to listen to your extreamist bull crap any ways..... The reason why so many festivals have been created, is that back in the days there was no source of entertainment,,, like computers and tv's... Most of the people lived by working their <admin-profanity filter activated>’s off on farms... So festivals like Bhasakhi and Lorhi and many other.. almost every single festival in the world... flourished. so that people could have a day off.. of their bussy hardworking lives and get together and have a good time.... I mean after a century people wouldnt really care about Dhula Bhatti wale.... But the tredition went onn because people loved the happy atmosphere created by da festival.... Why do u think no festivals are created anymore.. Like new festivals because people have too much entertainment and don’t go to ‘malley’ to seek fun..... Hope u get what im trying to say.... And again enough off the extremism crap......

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