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  1. Guru Hargobind sahib's suche moti kundals (white pearl ear rings) are still kept at toshe khana of harimander sahib along with 100s of Gurus personal items. Kundals of Guru Har Rai are still with Ram Rai's descendants.
  2. It was a mosque converted to a gurdwara by Bhangi Misl. This place is in dispute ever since the downfall of Sikh empire and sooner or later as the radical islam is gaining strength in Pakistan Punjab it will be converted to a mosque.
  3. I dont use FB or any social media only on skype. Seriously I am impressed if you possess knowledge of vedas and even memories them and I cant even read Sanskrit properly and without english translation.
  4. As per the same logic Guru Gobind singh jee ate food we also ate food so does that mean we are on the same plane ? Brhamin take bath I also take bath OMG am I a brhamin ? If Guru sahib bowed before Nirgun saroop of bhawani whats wrong in bowing before idol ? Idol is not bhawani its a stone and stone can never be worshiped.
  5. As mention is the same post. Durga sides dharmi warriors irrespective of their religion.
  6. Nice to see you quoting my text from other religions and not from Gurbani. We both know the reason. And as you said you have read vedas and even memories them that is very Nice its very hard to find such people these days in sikh religion. Lets take this debate to next level lets do a voice call on skype I could learn something from you knowledge of vedas and it may turn my life around. My skype is jasdeep108 give me a call lets discuss record and put the recording here. I am online now or you can tell me time you are comfortable with I am to excited to see a sikh with knowledge of sikh dharma and vedas. Lets talk on skype and record it.
  7. Every Avtar comes with the duty and when its done they leave the earth. Narsingh's duty was to save Bhagat Parladh and destroy enemies of his bhakti. He did his job and merged in God let see what Guru Sahib has wrote about it. ਪ੍ਰਹਲਾਦ ਕਰਿਯੋ ਨ੍ਰਿਪ ਛਤ੍ਰ ਫੇਰਿ ॥ ਦੀਨੋ ਸੰਘਾਰ ਸਬ ਇਮ ਅੰਧੇਰ ॥ ਸਬ ਦੁਸਟ ਅਰਿਸਟ ਦਿਨੇ ਖਪਾਇ ॥ ਪੁਨਿ ਲਈ ਜੋਤਿ ਜੋਤਹਿ ਮਿਲਾਇ ॥੪੧॥ Destroying all the tyrants and vicious people, Narsingh merged his light in the Supreme Light.41. ਸਭ ਦੁਸਟ ਮਾਰਿ ਕੀਨੇ ਅਭੇਖ ॥ ਪੁਨ ਮਿਲ੍ਯੋ ਜਾਇ ਭੀਤਰ ਅਲੇਖ ॥ And that Imperceptible Lord-God merged again in His Own Self. Now whats the duty of Durga ਤੈ ਹੀ ਦੁਰਗਾ ਸਾਜਿ ਕੈ; ਦੈਤਾ ਦਾ ਨਾਸ ਕਰਾਇਆ ॥ Till evil people reside on earth and there is a need to wage war against them Durga will remain in the battlefield siding and protecting the warriors of Dharma irrespective of their religious belief. Once God decides there should be no more evil and good there should be no more wars he will merge Durga back in himself. Now any where Guru Sahib mentions about death of durga/chandi/bhagauti ? He mentions about deaths of all the avtars but durga ? When Guru Sahib is parsing durga its all in present tense. Can you talk with dead in present tense ? Now lets see how it ends. ਦੁਰਗਾ ਪਾਠ ਬਣਾਇਆ, ਸਭੇ ਪਉੜੀਆ ॥ ਫੇਰਿ ਨ ਜੂਨੀ ਆਇਆ, ਜਿਨਿ ਇਹ ਗਾਇਆ ॥੫੫॥ Did Guru sahib wrote the same for vishnu shiva brhama ram krishan narsingh etc ? That gives Durga a special status that by just singing her vaar you can be liberated. Moreover there is only one Akal rest all is under kall but some are merged in him in past like Narsingh some will merge in him in future like Durga but at present Durga is ang sang of Khalsa like she was during Guru Gobind Singh jees time. Moreover I shared writings of Gurusahib bowing in front of jagat Mata I am waiting for you to share some writings of Gurusahib in which Durga is bowing before him as you claimed. ਸਬੈ ਸੰਤ ਉਬਾਰੀ ਬਰੰ ਬ੍ਯੂਹ ਦਾਤਾ ॥ ਨਮੋ ਤਾਰਣੀ ਕਾਰਣੀ ਲੋਕ ਮਾਤਾ ॥ ਨਮਸਤ੍ਯੰ ਨਮਸਤ੍ਯੰ ਨਮਸਤ੍ਯੰ ਭਵਾਨੀ ॥ ਸਦਾ ਰਾਖ ਲੈ ਮੁਹਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕੈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨੀ ॥੩੭॥੨੫੬॥
  8. This hindu phobia is stopping you from being sikh. God is one and is defined in all religions if you are finding uniqueness in your God then you are creating your own God not following the actual God. As per Vedas :- Na dvitityo Na triyaschthurtho naapyuchyate| N a panchamo Na shshtah sapthmo naapyuchyate| Nashtamo Na navamo dashamo naapyuchyate| Yagna yetham devamekavritham veda|| Sa sarvassai vi pashyathi yachha praanathi yachhana| Tamidam nigatam sah sa yesha yeka yekavrideka yeva| Ya yetham devamekavritham veda|| Atharva 13.4[2]19-20 There is no second God, nor a third, nor is even a fourth spoken of There is no fifth God or a sixth nor is even a seventh mentioned. There is no eighth God, nor a ninth. Nothing is spoken about a tenth even. This unique power is in itself. That Lord is only one, the only omnipresent. It is one and the only one. More Examples Ma chidanyad vishamsata Sakhyo ma rishanyatha| Indramit srotha vrishanam sacha suthe muhurukhya cha samshata|| Atharva 20.85.1 Friends! Do not praise and worship anything else, do not be doomed, praise and worship only the benevolent God Almighty, unitedly in this world, sing his glory, again and again. [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4“na tasya pratima asti” There is no image of Him.” [Yajurveda 32:3]“shudhama poapvidham” “He is bodyless and pure.” [Yajurveda 40:8]“Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste” “They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements” (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). “They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti.” [Yajurveda 40:9]Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc. Opening phrase of Quran (1) In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful. (2) Praise be to Allah, the lord of the universe. (3) The most gracious, the most merciful. (4) Master of the Day of Judgment. (5) You alone we worship, and [from] you alone we ask for help. (6) Guide us [to] the straight path. (7) The path of those on whom you have bestowed your grace, not of those who earned [your] wrath, nor of those who have gone astray. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How is this God different praised in vedas and quran different from Akal Purkh. If its same why your trying to find the uniqueness in spirituality ? Uniqueness is in sikhs and their actions and their mareyada. Other religions are corrupted by the followers and preachers God send Guru Nanak and now sikhi being corrupted on the name of a new God which is exclusive to the sikhi. Akal Purkh literally means Immortal Ancestor which literally means in sankrit NirjarapaNyayoSit (निर्जरपण्ययोषित्) which is used for GOD in vedas. If I say Guru Gobind Singh ji bowed before Akalpurkh which is already used in vedas as a name for God was he a hindu ? Guru Gobind Singh ji never invented a new God He followed the same God which is timeless. He just followed him with devotion and without corruption.
  9. ਸਬੈ ਸੰਤ ਉਬਾਰੀ ਬਰੰ ਬ੍ਯੂਹ ਦਾਤਾ ॥ ਨਮੋ ਤਾਰਣੀ ਕਾਰਣੀ ਲੋਕ ਮਾਤਾ ॥ ਨਮਸਤ੍ਯੰ ਨਮਸਤ੍ਯੰ ਨਮਸਤ੍ਯੰ ਭਵਾਨੀ ॥ ਸਦਾ ਰਾਖ ਲੈ ਮੁਹਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕੈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨੀ ॥੩੭॥੨੫੬॥ _____________________________________________________ Either this is not the bani of Guru Sahib or He is praising Bhawani there is no third real option. Third option is virtual and followed by confused who are being spoon feed and they dont spend time reading gurbani themselves. You know where sarbloh granth starts from Ek ong kar sri vaheguru ji ki fathe. Sri Bhawani ji sahae. Sri Maya Lakshmi ji sahae. Ustat Sri Maya Lakshmi ji ki. Sri Mukhwak Patshahi Dasvi. This is the first line of Sri Sarloh Granth. Either this is not Gurus Bani or He starts Sarloh Granth with ustat of Durga/Chandi/Bhagauti/Bhawani or what ever you call her. There is a reason why our Ardas has Prithme Bhagauti simer ke not Prithme Akal Purkh simar ke or Vaheguru Simar ke. If something is in front of our eyes loud and clear there is no need of proof. Baki I dont follow any one or any books or lectures or cult or whatsoever. I read Gurbani and only Gurbani myself its easy to understand if you read it with blank mind and accept it as it is. If you start understanding Gurbani with presumed mind set as if you already know sikhi and Gurbani then it would be pick and choose. This verse fits my version of sikhi I accept it this doesnt lets not talk about it.
  10. Whats the relation of Durga bowing head in front of Akalpurkh and Guru Gobind Singh ji bowing in front of both ?
  11. There are three factions in sikhism when it comes to dasam bani. 2 read it as it is and translate it as it is. Missionaries read dasam granth and reject it as it contains praise of Jagat Mata NIhangs and few others read dasam granth as it as and accepts the praise of Jagat Mata 3rd are the confused ones neither they have understanding to accept the praise of Jagat Mata nor they have b***s to reject dasam bani so they tend to make things. Yes its written mata here here guru sahib doesnt mean it. Out of these 3 only 1 is right it can be a missionary or this nihang but 1 thing is sure this 3 rd confused group can never be right.
  12. Read these lines loud and again again and please improve my poor knowledge by telling me the meaning of "tuman duar par sees apna ghasvaun" and "tuman charan par surat hamari lagani" and yes please share the verse from gurbani which states durga is bowing head in front of guru Gobind singh ji. A son would never let a mother bow her head in front of her atleast not a son like Guru Gobind Singh ji. Leave every thing aside " Namo Jagat Mata " in jaap is reference to ? and its for sikhs or Guru gobind Singh ji himself bowing to mother of the universe. Please enlighten me "WITH FACTS" not stories of logical manmat
  13. As far as I know no one can see future it would be against the law of God. All the stories of brahm geyanis telling about future are made after their death. Our kids would be sharing same stories for the present sants which we know cant see future.
  14. On the bases of two posts above instead of trying to save your marriage or thinking of future or praying to god to come and help you out. Put all this energy is understanding anger and controlling it. Anger is child of EGO. Stop expecting praises from everyone around and focus on doings things you like.
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    Jathera Worship

    Jathere is a nothing more then a business. Dead are either liberated or reincarnated in both the cases neither they can hear you or accept your offerings more ever people mess up living trees by pouring oil in their roots. So in short a visit to jathere is giving some money and groceries to the care taker and poisoning a tree thats it.
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