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World master piece yeah right, if it was a master piece then why is only a few years there as so many faults with the gurdwara. I agree about the master piece but how much sangat you see there that are not taking pictures of it? Why is it theres more sangat in park avenue then the new one? Why did the old gurdwara have such a nice feel even if it was old whereas this doesnt feel likeit Kirtan + paath makes a gurdwara. lectures where??? never seen it never heard it mmmm you sure?

well i speak both everywhere i even teach the words to different ppl. got shocked once at work with a 85 year old lady says "singh sahib tusi amritsar ga ha?" mmm answered yes :wub: then she told me she spent 5 years in amritsar and the washer messed up her wedding dress lol

I think you need to listen to the whole interview before you put out that fake recording. Think you need to have a look at you so called SOni and think wat has he done for the youth. Simple Question does the gurdwara need to change for the better? If so can this be done under the current party? You alll are wrong about Dal Khalsa heres the quick think about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dal_Khalsa

all i got to say the only way to get soni out is just plain in simple vote him out but you would know that the ballet ppl are gona be dodgy too lol

well i even pay for your postage lol

closer i would think but there are other consideratiosn to take place tooo ie money/ ideas etc

yep thats why the ardas happened with saying the end of the meeting inside! I didnt say it was wrong have i ak47, i said these issue of meeting in gurdwara always get loud its standard. do you see any singh without a voice we got the bigggest out of the whole lot yep thats why the ardas happened with saying the end of the meeting inside! I didnt say it was wrong have i ak47, i said these issue of meeting in gurdwara always get loud its standard. do you see any singh without a voice we got the bigggest out of the whole lot also i got the papers you need read them then your understand

Dil Apna Khalistani, you sound such a fool u know that. was you at the meeting? If you was then tell me why in the ardas the gaini said this is the end of the meeting????why was himmit soni shouting on the mic like he was mcing lol. think about it they didn’t even want to discuss anything? Personally I think you need to get some heart surgery done because you don’t even know the full meaning of Khalistani. get your facts straight son. go and do some research if might help. FOOL

It works only if you dont get forced into it. You need time to speak to the other half and see them too. get to know little and thats it go head with your answers. If you think after a few conversations its the one then go for it:D

Yep i been on the tour (with another group) and loved every bit of it. its recommanded. If you wana get to the grass root i would say go cause the gurdwara are untouched and dont have marble everywhere so you see them in orginal state. However there is alot of improvements happening with the sangat going to pakistan. pm if you need more info.

may they rest in peace young ones

yep but this is a worldwide issue. In USA they take guns etc in so aint that bad. What needs to be done is a outside body needs to take control and not a party that runs it already for the meeting. It has to be in a hall not in a gurdwara. if you ppl found it pathetic why didnt you stand up and say something? Didnt you find it pathetic when in the ardas the closed there meeting?

face to face as in if we was, educated mmm think im well educated as it goes, all im sayin you defo need more education about this matter. Disrespecting the maryada, where have i disrepected it???

own really and mr soni lets in booze and fags into the gurdwara thats cool?

its like saying your goin out with your mates to a meal or lets say a club? Have i been yes to a meal and clubs. At the meal place did they sell booze? mmm yes they did. did i order mmm no i didnt! Have you been to a football game, mm there is smoke and booze around there, did i watch a match yes i did :wub: did i drink booze or smoke no i didnt. Does the doctor singh give me meds mmm yes he did, is he a drug dealer mm no he aint. simple Avtare mand aint on the committee, scam 2 million yeah right ask mr soni n his new land rover. have you even been to pakistan, see the state of the gurdwara at? there is a vast improvement taking place with the jahtas going to pakistan and helping the gurdwaras build. go and see and go again after two years and see youll see a vast improvement.

ok where in the rehat meryada has it written anything about meat??? Sant Ji never even said anything about meat did he? You need to get to knwo the ppl that knew Sant Ji and ask them? Dil apna Khalistani, 1st you dont know anything mate. im saying this straight up to you face to face. are u khalistani, really then you need to get some research done big time cause you defo need it?

If you got problems with Mr Mand then come and ask him at the gurudwara today at 4 park ave as theres a members meeting there 2day. If you dont believe then may i ask you why is some much of the youth gona vote his party? Why do alot of singhs come and see Mr Mand for advise? If he wasnt a true Khalisatan then why would he be so involved with the sikh? Harjap, all i can say have u seen the full video of the recording of the interview? Dont think you have? You have no idea of what went on the eve of the attacks of 84. If this video was for the indian government then how come most ppl in the Uk hav this video? Do you think they would let this out for the sake? think about it, would fbi let out anything about something about Bin ladin that will help them into the public??? All im gona say get any youth that spoken to him and know him and then youll find a answer, they will vote this party. Do you listen to akasah radio, aint there recordings of the other party? All i got to say where ever you go a conclusion of mand been a Traitor, u need to think hard about it? ok lets look at the gurdwaras payslips mmm why are there two payments for the gainhs? etc. look at the cost why is it gravesend gurdwara is more half the cost yet holds 2 football pitches and a gurdwara twices as big then Havelock road? Lets make it then why was the Constitution of the gurdwara changed under mr soni? ill let you think about it? Lets look at the other party now, ow many of them own or used to own businesses that sells fags and booze??? Everyone has to make a living thats what im saying. Lets say i was in transport and i had a contractor to ship booze around the country and another to ship charity toys around and make money. does that make me a wrong singh? i dont think so? MMM singhs own alot of buinesses, hotels, bars, clubs, etc dont think they are wrong if they make a living? also forget to tell you Sant Ji knew there was gona be attacks well before the attacks took place, one of his speechs before the attacks say singhs need to pick up there swords and guns. Why did Sant Ji say this cause he knew! Sant ji also say that singh should be trained with guns as its the morden day of the kirpan, y cause he ssaid that if i was standing ere with my kirpan and someone stand with a gun face to face oa distance apart then who do you think will do more damage me running at you with my kirpan or me standing there with a gun pointing at you? Things like this is y the Sant Ji force had guns with them.

totaally agreee with you. Like i come along n push a beer glass in your mouth? wat would u do A) have it, B) Say no C) kick my <admin-profanity filter activated> simple noone gona force u to take it

Excuse me but i think what these allegations that your making against Mr Mand are Lies. No he wasnt even sent in by india government. He was just there at the time and had his camera with him and decided to do this. He has no links with badal, If you really believe that his a traitor what are your facts? Study the video properly and you would see that Sant already knows that he will be attacked listen to it properly. The fact is completly different if you look at the facts and see what he talks about it. I dont think ppl of the whole khalistan whole movement. If you knew then you woulld know he aint part of the bullyshitter that are part of our society today. Dil apna Khalistani get your facts striaght before you accuse anyone of been a Gadhaar.

hes got a pretty nice website :wub: shame the sikh one isnt up to the other portofolia standards.

ppl get the facts and then we jugde!! simple as

I havent got the video right now but i need to dig deep for it and then convert it as its on vhs format. ill try n get soon but not yet as im building my sis pc and its a pain in the back .... http://www.damdamitaksal.com/his_jath_14.htm the pic of him is there and that time was the video was shot so ill try n get it hopefully

I feel for you too, i lost two very close mates last year and year before that. it still hurts. All i can say memorys will not go away but you need to deal with them by doing path, kirtan, etc and also keep yourself buzy too.

I feel soo sorry after reading this report, i do feel for the rest of the sikh around the world and i think only things could get better. I think i am gona start to do charity for things like this. donate maybe gurmukh books, etc to them.

But you cant do the same things with God that you can do with your wife........ ................i better keep my mouth................ ....... hope God has a sense of humour :D :wub: LMAO