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On 14/02/2018 at 6:18 AM, Guest Jas said:
I found my boyfriend in bed with another woman.
On 15/02/2018 at 5:58 AM, GurjantGnostic said:I've been there. I feel for you bhenji.
You found your boyfriend in bed with another woman?
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On 26/12/2017 at 11:46 PM, Big_Tera said:
Slowly slowly your kids with becomes jehovas witness. slowlys but surely young female Sikh wen will have crosses on the knecks. dont be foolish. This is happening rigjt now. We are turning into coconuts.
I dont know. when we were young we always wanted to have a tree. None of my siblings have become Christians yet.
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This upcoming program features Amritpal Singh, Nirmaljit Singh and Avtar Singh, who all thre hardcore missionaries. I dont know about Nirmal Singh, a kirtania, or Harinder Singh, whether he is in agreement with his guru dhadhriwala over Amrit vela, naam simran amongst other things.
What is going with Hounslow Gurdwara that they woud allow 3 missionaries on their stage.?
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Gurpurb vadhiayan to everyone
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No Sikh is celebrating Jesus' birth. Most just care about getting presents. Especially kids.
Anyway who decided Jesus was white:
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On 21/12/2017 at 8:02 AM, Guest whiplash90 said:
Hello Guys
I found out that the Central Khalsa Orphanage based in Amritsar requires that its non-Sikh boys who are admitted be required to grow their hair and wear patkas until the age of 12 and turbans until they turn 18 in which they can cut their hair again.
What do you think of this?
How many non-Sikhs are there in Khalsa Orphanage? I would have thought that they would only really be Sikh kids there in the first place.
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On 21/12/2017 at 7:18 AM, proactive said:
I would put the difference between this charity and KA in blunt terms as Sikh relief is raising the next Sikh generation while Khalsa Aid is raising the next Muslim generation!
So true and so horrible to read the reality. Billionaire Arabs and such, and then us. We don't have the wealth they do.
2 hours ago, S1ngh said:These muppets don't understand that there is an earthquake of farmer suicides, drug addiction, pollution and cancer in Punjab every month
Although some of these probelm are self-created, there should definitely be more material and financial aid for the poorer Sikhs. Some farmers have taken huge oans on land they cannot repay. Some fools take drugs, and become addicts. Those people who bring it on themselves, I don't tend to have much sympathy for, but those Sikhs who are living in shanty towns and can't educate their kids, or even feed them or clothe them properly, should definietly be helped. And those families affected by the loss of family members who gave their lives in the Khalistan movement should definitely be high up on the list.
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10 hours ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:
I love Dasam bani becuase it sounds so different and the poetry is beyond words
Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib is amazing. Only something so amazing could come from someone so amazing.
10 hours ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:Daas
Daasi. Daas is if you are male.
10 hours ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:Does anyone know anywhere where I can purchase the senchiya? T
Best bet is Singhbrothers in Amritsar, where I got mine from.
IN the meantime go to gurmatveechar.com and listen to katha of ri Dasme Patshah's Granth.
20 hours ago, TaksalDaSingh9771 said:I'm pretty sure you are allowed to have parkash of senchiya though
Of course you are. You don;'t need chandoa or chaur for senchia. Just a rel and hazuria.
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6 hours ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:
I asked my mom about it and she said yes and she is taking me to DTF (Soho Road) sometime in the holidays (I think they have saroops of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji anyway).
DTF don't sell them. No place I know of, sells the saroop. Are you talking about the senchia ?
6 hours ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:Please reply soon because I need to know as fast as possible.
If you dont know about it, then what is the rush?
Why go so fast after something you know little about?
6 hours ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:Also, if anyone else owns a saroop of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib then please do tell me what the daily routine of looking after Maharaj is
No-one has Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib parkash in their house. Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib is only parkash in Sri Guru Granth Sahibs hazoori, never separately.
6 hours ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:I really want to be blessed of having Maharaj in my house
I dont think you are going to get blessings on your head, rather you are going to lose them.
Think about what you are doing. You sound really naive (forgive me) for thinking about this when your post shows you clearly have no idea.
Either buy the senchia and read them at your leisure or read on online at searchgurbani.com
they have english trans on that site, its very good.
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On 21/09/2017 at 6:01 AM, YOYO29 said:
Interesting subject you have brought it up.May I know how you got so much information about this ? From gazetteers or from books ? Pardon my ignorance about this.I have always focused on 1941 census and so i don't know what was the situation before 1941 census took place.It would be good if u can suggest some good books on this migration.
At the moment I'm reading a book by Ian Talbot called "lahore in the times of the Raaj".
In it he writes that a quarter of the Muslim residents of Lahore city are Kashmiris.
Also just for your info, the 1941 census was not very accurate either as all three religions were suspected of giving skewed numbers wherever they could.
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16 hours ago, MrDoaba said:
Yeah I agree here bro, I did think that before posting it. This article isn't particularly well written for someone of Kamalroop Singh's calibre. However, I do believe his overall argument is valid.
His argument is valid in that aarti is a method of worship. However the connection to worship of Guru Granth Sahib is not completely addressed in his article.16 hours ago, MrDoaba said:Do you believe that was the actual reason why Gyani Ditt Singh stopped the Aarti though - over resentment, so he went after their most beloved rituals? I think it could have been to do with the discord he had with Arya Samaj and Hinduism in general.
I'm not sure because I don't know if it was a beloved ritual. It may have more to do with the hindu connotations which some Sikh people suffer dreadfully from.
16 hours ago, MrDoaba said:Kamalroop also mentions his association with Gulabdasis, and from what little I know about them, it would seem to fit into his bias against ritualism.
From what I have read about his Gulabdasi past, he did break more or less completely from it. I think the anti-arya samaj stance would hold more credence than the ex-Gulabdasi past.
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21 hours ago, LightofNaam said:
Hi, I was wondering if there are any sikhs on here who live in Dubai?
I'm looking to move there soon and would like to speak to or meet other Sikhs (when I get there).
Also does anyone know any Sikh organisations and groups I could join?
I would avoid those sikh organisations like the plague. They are hardcore darshan rogi chelas there and they have also started amrit sinchar without Dasam Banis.
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13 hours ago, MrDoaba said:
ਧੂਪ ਜਗਾਇ ਕੈ ਸੰਖ ਬਜਾਇ ਕੈ ਸੀਸ ਨਿਵਾਇ ਕੈ ਬੈਨ ਸੁਨਾਇਓ ॥
Read what context this is written in:
https://www.searchgurbani.com/dasam-granth/shabad/8269/line/1
IMO Kamalroop has not presented it in its correct context in his article.
13 hours ago, MrDoaba said:Giani Ditt Singh ... states that that the Aarti would take place with lanterns at Sri Harmandir Sahib (verse 14), but he criticises it heavily. He mentions those imposters who wear blue, i.e. Nihang Singhs, and the Nirmale as sinners for doing this practice (verse 4).
One of the things that has always irked me greatly is that even with Sri Akal Bunga under the control of Nihangs during this era the low-castes were barred from entering the parikrama to Darbar Sahib and had to do namaskar from outside. Giani Ditt Singh was a Chamar (even though I did at one time beleive very strongly that he was a julaha) and people like him were heavily discriminated against even under the eye of the protectors of faith - the Dal Panth. This could explain why Giani Ji criticized some of their practices.
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12 hours ago, BhForce said:
Interestingly, nowhere in the article does it say who appointed him to this position. Key sentences:
So, given the university is not paying him, who is? Or is just a self-appointed "chaplain"?
If its in canada then most like its the fake singh sabha international.
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Great photos and info @Singh123456777
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Bhai Gurdas Ji
Vaar 1, Pauri 47
Guru Ram Das and Guru Arjan Dev
ਗੁਰੂ ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਤੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਅਰਜਨ ਦੇਵਦਿਚੈ ਪੂਰਬਿ ਦੇਵਣਾ ਜਿਸਦੀ ਵਸਤੁ ਤਿਸੈ ਘਰਿ ਆਵੈ।
Liabilities of the previous births have to be settled and the thing goes to the house it belongs to.
ਬੈਠਾ ਸੋਢੀ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹੁ ਰਾਮਦਾਸੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਕਹਾਵੈ।
Now Guru Ram Das, a Sodhi emperor, seated on the Guru-seat is called the true Guru.
ਪੂਰਨ ਤਾਲ ਖਟਾਇਆ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਸਰ ਵਿਚਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਗਾਵੈ।
He got dug the complete holy tank and here settling down at Amritsar, he spread his light.
ਉਲਟਾ ਖੇਲ ਖਸੰਮ ਦਾ ਉਲਟੀ ਗੰਗ ਸਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ।
Wondrous is the play of the Lord. He can cause Ganges running in opposite direction merge in the ocean.
ਦਿਤਾ ਲਈਐ ਆਪਣਾ ਅਣਿਦਿਤਾ ਕਛੁ ਹਥਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ।
You get your own; given nothing cannot bring to you anything.
ਫਿਰਿ ਆਈ ਘਰਿ ਅਰਜਣੇ ਪੁਤ ਸੰਸਾਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਕਹਾਵੈ।
Now the Guruship entered the house of Arjan (Dev) who, to say was the son, but, he proved through his good deeds to be worthy of the Guru-seat.
ਜਾਣਿ ਨ ਦੇਸਾਂ ਸੋਢੀਓ ਹੋਰਸਿ ਅਜਰੁ ਨ ਜਰਿਆ ਜਾਵੈ।
This Guruship would not go beyond Sodhis because none else can bear with this unbearable.
ਘਰ ਹੀ ਕੀ ਵਥੁ ਘਰੇ ਰਹਾਵੈ ॥੪੭॥
The thing of the House should remain in the House.
Also this fits in perfectly with what Guru Gobind Singh Ji has written in Sri Dasme Patshah Ji ka granth Sahib. How would Bhai Gurdas Sahib have been able to write this many moons before Guru Sahib's time? This information could only have been given to Bhai Gurdas Sahib by the Gurus themselves.
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14 hours ago, Kira said:
please do. You've peeked my interest.
Piqued.
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This guy inderjjeet is a guru nindak. He is anti-Dasam granth and is one of main fools ruining the malaysian naujwan sikh sabha with his his "one granth one panth" nonsense.
What a shame for the canadian Sikh community and the university itself.
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On 27/11/2017 at 7:18 AM, Guest Taksali said:
Benti Chaupai Sahib can be read in the morning. Triya Charitar should be read at night to control kaam.
Adi Granth lacks bir ras
Charitropakhiyan gives us bir ras
Another troll. Mrsingh/guptsingh/sunnybond again.
11 hours ago, Guest KhalsaKaurUk said:Whatever you do, just don't jump into reading english translations of Charitropakhiyan of the Dasam Bani! I did, it was a big mistake, especially when I sent it by mistake to my Muslim friends! They found it really disturbing!
If you wish to look at analysis of Charitars in Sri Charitropakhyan Granth then please read at sikhawareness.com
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On 04/11/2017 at 7:38 PM, Singh2017 said:
VJKK VJKF
Sangat Ji, I'm hearing that apparently the gurus had past lives. I find this hard to believe because I thought they were Akaal Purakh themselves so can someone please enlighten me?
On 06/11/2017 at 7:01 PM, Singh2017 said:VJKK VJKF
chatanga Ji, I never said I doubt my gurus. I said that I find it hard to believe because of what I've been taught before and that I've never been given any straight evidence. If Guru Ji said this themselves then the conversation stops here but I have not said anywhere I doubt my gurus in the slightest.
Read Bhai Gurdas Ji Vaaran Vaar 1 pauri 46. it explains a little more on this subject:
ਸੋ ਟਿਕਾ ਸੋ ਛਤ੍ਰੁ ਸਿਰਿ ਸੋਈ ਸਚਾ ਤਖਤੁ ਟਿਕਾਈ।
With the same mark (on the forehead), the same canopy he radiated on the Throne.
ਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਹੰਦੀ ਮੁਹਰ ਹਥਿ ਗੁਰ ਅੰਗਦ ਦੀ ਦੋਹੀ ਫਿਰਾਈ।
The power Guru Nanak had is now with Guru Angad was publically proclaimed all around.
ਦਿਤਾ ਛੋੜਿ ਕਰਤਾਰ ਪੁਰੁ ਬੈਠਿ ਖਡੂਰੇ ਜੋਤਿ ਜਗਾਈ।
Guru Angad left Kartarpur and scattered his light while sitting at Khadur.
ਜੰਮੇ ਪੂਰਬਿ ਬੀਜਿਆ ਵਿਚਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਹੋਰੁ ਕੂੜੀ ਚਤੁਰਾਈ।
Action seeds of the previous births sprout; all other ingenuinities are false.
ਲਹਣੇ ਪਾਈ ਨਾਨਕੋ ਦੇਣੀ ਅਮਰਦਾਸਿ ਘਰਿ ਆਈ।
Whatever Lahina got from Guru Nanak now came to the house of (Guru) Amar Das.
ਗੁਰੁ ਬੈਠਾ ਅਮਰੁ ਸਰੂਪ ਹੋਇ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈ ਦਾਤਿ ਇਲਾਹੀ।
Having received the celestial gift from Guru Angad, the Guru, in the form of Amar Das is seated.
ਫੇਰਿ ਵਸਾਇਆ ਗੋਇੰਦਵਾਲੁ ਅਚਰਜੁ ਖੇਲੁ ਨ ਲਖਿਆ ਜਾਈ।
Guru Amar Das founded Goindval. The wondorous play could was beyond sight.
ਦਾਤਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਖਸਮੈ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥੪੬॥
Gift received from the earlier Gurus further enhanced the grandeur of the Light.
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On 19/11/2017 at 8:15 AM, 13Mirch said:
If I recall correctly, a few months ago I put up a post on this forum highlighting some of the discrepancies in the Suraj Prakash. A mod took it down because he felt it would offend a majority of the forum.
Can you pm me the article please?
On 22/11/2017 at 6:58 AM, 13Mirch said:Tragic to see you implying that the tenth master was a Casteist
Do you know the history of the Singh who was shaheed in a battle during 10th Gurus time? His Gurdwara is right next to Lohgarh Qilla at Anandpur Sahib. I have been there but can't remember the name unfortunately.
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1 hour ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:
VJKK VJKF
Does anyone have a link that I could use to listen to a sehaj paath of Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji?
Bhull Chuk Maaf
VJKK VJKF
try gurmatveechar.com
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It is missionary atheism.
On 12/11/2017 at 11:09 AM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:As long as he's not claiming to be a guru or above SGGS , then we should be proud of his work so far.
Does this inlcude him going to america and staying under the hospitality of darshan rogis biggest supporters there?
Have you ever heard dhadrianwala once condemn rogi darshan for starting his own panth?
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On 12/11/2017 at 11:09 AM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:
Yes he has a slightly different flavor of prachar and sikhi, but then who doesn't , as long as its not a major deviation from the index
It is a major deviation from the index what Dhaddrianwala is saying. It's totally against what Guru Granth Sahib says.
On 13/11/2017 at 8:47 AM, Prokharkoo84 said:Dhadriawale - question marks around who he is linked to, but he is the main pracharak in Punjab bringing the masses into Sikhi, which despite the question marks around him, is what is needed. People diss him which a lot seems appears to be out jealousy.
He is bringing the masses into something but is it Sikhi? No.
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IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS : Patiala University Librarian caught destroying/selling Sikh rare manuscripts
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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Harinders forte is in politics and he is good at that. But when it comes to historically religious praxis, he is completey on the missionary line. PDL is a gem concerning literature and learning in the Sikh world today, as it houses so many texts that are unavaialable to the common Sikh today. For that I have to give him credit, but his misinformation on Dasam Granth and rehatnamas show him to be completely untrustworthy.
That was just a movement to get himslef in the news more than anything. The controversies he joined was in denying Dasam Grnth its correct place in the Panth and also changing dohra etc. He used to take SGGS in a wheelie-carry case around with him. Him and his crew do not believe in Sukhasan , chaur, etc of SGGS.
The actual dohra is the one he reads, from Bhai Prehlad Singh's rehitnama. But the Panth hasn't read it that way for nigh-on 70 years now, so there was no need to force the issue controversially.
Harinder like many missionaries want to make a name for himself in Sikh history as some kind of reformer.