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  1. Very strange that they would target and attack darbar sahib because of Sant Bhindranwale yet there was no crime at the time according to punjabi police he had alleged to have committed. A First Information Report (FIR) is a written document prepared by police organizations in countries like Bangladesh, India, and Pakistan when they receive information about the commission of a cognisable offence, or in Singapore when the police receives information about any criminal offence.
  2. 100-yr-old dies waiting for justice for 24 years Amar Kaur had deposed against ex-Punjab DGP Saini Satya Prakash Tribune News Service New Delhi, December 12 Amar Kaur, who had been waging a legal battle to get justice for her son, son-in-law and driver — not seen again after allegedly being kidnapped by former Punjab Director General of Police SS Saini almost 24 years ago —died here on Tuesday. Kaur (100) had been bed-ridden for a decade due to brain stroke. Amar Kaur had deposed against Saini in a Delhi court while being in a wheelchair supported by an ambulance almost a decade ago. She had sent a telegram from her bed in Moolchand Hospital to the Chief Justice of the Delhi High Court on July 8, 2011, requesting him to fast track the trial and hold day-to-day hearings so that she could get justice in her lifetime and her soul could rest in peace. “I have lost everything today. My mother could not get justice in her lifetime. The judicial system should not drag on a case for such a long time that people die waiting for justice. No person, howsoever powerful, should be allowed to misuse the system to unnecessarily delay a trial,” her son Ashish Kumar said, breaking down inconsolably. Her businessman son Vinod Kumar, son-in-law Ashok Kumar and driver Mukhtiyar Singh never returned home after being picked up by the police in Ludhiana and Chandigarh on March 15, 1994. A criminal case was registered against Saini and others by CBI on the orders of the Punjab and Haryana High Court in 1994. The case was transferred to Delhi by the SC in 2004 after Kaur expressed apprehension that Saini might use his might to influence witnesses.
  3. Uncovering Extra-Judicial Killings in Punjab, and the Police Impunity That Followed By Rashme Sehgal on 16/12/2017 • A recently-released report by an advocacy group claims that over 8,000 extra-judicial executions and enforced disappearances took place in the state between 1980 and 1995. Representative image. Credit: PTI The death toll from enforced disappearances, extra-judicial killings and illegal cremations continues to grow in Punjab, according to the report ‘Identifying the Unidentified’ by the Punjab Documentation and Advocacy Project (PDAP). The organisation has, as part of a seven-year investigation, unearthed 8,257 instances of such killings between the 1980s and the mid-1990s, when Punjab was in the throes of militancy and counter insurgency. PDAP undertook this investigation in order to identify the true identities of the thousands of victims of enforced disappearances whose whereabouts remain unknown to this day. The PDAP and its team of volunteers travelled to several districts of Punjab including Gurdaspur, Batala, Pathankot, Ferozepur, Jalandhar, Nakodar, Jagraon, Mansa, Kapurthala, Sultanpur Lodhi, Hoshiarpur, Dasuya, Faridkot, Ludhiana, Moga, Nangal, Anandpur Sahib, Zira, Muktsar, Barnala, Sangrur and Phagwara. By obtaining records from all the municipal committees of these districts, they were able to identify hundreds of victims who were cremated as unclaimed and were unidentified by the Punjab police. Satnam Singh Bains, a human rights advocate for the PDAP, pointed out: “Our investigation revealed that 5,648 mass cremations of unclaimed and unidentified persons took place in Punjab between 1984 and 1995. The highest concentration of killings and illegal cremations took place between 1990 and 1993. The identities of another 2,609 victims have been ascertained, thereby bringing the total to 8,257.” Most of these bodies were disposed of in an illegal manner. Investigation process By visiting numerous cremation grounds in Punjab, this team of human rights lawyers and activists was able to gather 800 pages of records from across the 22 districts of the state. These details were then cross-checked against FIRs. Further cross-referencing was undertaken with victim and family testimonies, and also corroborated with news reports in the then vernacular and other dailies. Explaining the methodology used, Bains said, “We have used 87,000 archived reports of different newspapers for the period between 1984 and 1995. These included Ajit, Jagbani, Punjab Tribune, English Tribune and other Punjabi and Sikh periodicals to help facilitate this identification process.” An examination of 6,004 encounter killings has revealed that 95% of these were extra-judicial killings. The largest number of killings in a single encounter has been 17. Response of NHRC The families of victims have filed 2,500 petitions before the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) between 1997 and 2012. The organisation, however, chose to restrict its enquiry to the 2,097 cremations in the three crematoria in Amritsar and refused to investigate any killings that took place outside the district. This refusal resulted in the derailment of proceedings by 21 years. The PDAP is now planning to submit their findings before the Supreme Court so that justice can be meted out victims’ families. The advocacy group started its investigation from the Gurdaspur district in the Majha belt, which they believed witnessed a large number of extra-judicial killings. One such hotspot was the Beeko Interrogation Centre located in the Batala district of Gurdaspur – which was earlier a factory. Hundreds are believed to have been tortured here. These bodies, the report claims, were cremated with utmost secrecy in the municipal cremation ground, the records of which have helped provide some estimation about the number of people who died there. The procedure at the cremation grounds was as follows. When a body would be brought for cremation, a summary of the cremation expenditure, comprising firewood and cloth, would be prepared and submitted before the municipal committee, which would then approve the cost and put it down in the register. The PDAP investigation unearthed that 469 unclaimed and unidentified cremations were conducted in the Batala cremation grounds. In Amritsar, 538 cremations were conducted in the Patti cremation ground. In all, the team was able to uncover 612 unclaimed and unidentified cremations in Gurdaspur’s three crematoria between 1984-1990 and 1994-1995. Data for the four years in between was missing. In all, 800 pages of records from different districts have been collected. This investigation has faced its own set of problems. To start with, Bains said, “Since there were no dead bodies to exhume, no bones, no DNA profiling could be done. We had to fall back on witness evidence and corroborate these with official records. We decided to divide our findings in three categories. The first category comprised exact identification when the dates of the death coincided with the dates of the accounts given. The second was of highly likely matches where the cremations can be matched with the witness evidence in a short window of two days and there is the third category of possible matches where the evidence remains evidential.” Police officials speak out PDAP has also managed to talk to people who were witness to these extra-judicial killings. Punjab police constable Satwant Singh Manak is one of the few cops who spoke on how he witnessed 15 of them. The turning point, Manak told this reporter, was when he witnessed the killing of a young teenager by the name of Kulwant Singh Kanta. Manak said, “He must have been around 16-18 years of age. He was at his bua’s (aunt’s) house when the cops came knocking. The cops were looking for a militant by that name. The boy was picked up though the cops knew he was innocent. He was tortured and killed and his body was disposed by throwing it in the canal.” “This boy’s killing disturbed me so much that I left the police force and filed a legal petition against the officers responsible for his death. The families of ten other boys whose death I had witnessed have joined me in this petition which is presently pending before the Supreme Court,” he added. He admits to having received offers of inducements but he has refused to withdraw his charges, stating, “Money is not everything. When I said I would expose false encounters witnessed during my service, I was implicated in false cases and my family members including my father were tortured. It is not about money now. I need justice for myself and my family and for those innocents who became prey to overambitious cops who just wanted promotions at any cost.” Bains points out that Manak is not the only police office to have spoken out. In 2015, Kanwar Sandhu did a lengthy interview with Gurmeet Singh Pinky, an officer of the Punjab police who admitted on the record to having witnessed over 50 fake encounters. The report highlights how other eyewitnesses have also corroborated that police officials use third-degree torture during interrogations. Problems faced during investigation PDAP activists admit to limitations in their collection of evidence. For example, not every “unclaimed and unidentified body” resulted in an application for firewood and cloth. If the cremation attendants or the police did not apply for firewood and cloth, the bodies would be cremated as unclaimed and unidentified and there would be no entry in the firewood stock register, as was the case in the Khalra mass cremations. Also, this data was dependent on the municipal committee’s own records. If no expenditure took place, there would be no records – but that did not mean a cremation did not take place. The report refers to evidence provided by villagers which has not been accepted by the NHRC. It cites the example of how a police operation in the village of Behla in Amritsar on June 9, 1992, to track down a militant named Surjit Singh and two of his associates, led police officials to raid the house of an ex-MLA where these militants were suspected to be hiding. In this operation, the cops used seven to eight villagers as human shields. One of the villagers was Kartar Singh, whose son Virsa Singh is now fighting for justice for his father. This encounter in Behla village lasted 34 hours as the militants were hiding in a bunker and were heavily armed. It resulted in the killing of all three militants and six villagers who were used as human shields. The cops tried to cover up the killings of the villagers by portraying them as being “militants killed in a genuine encounter”. Virsa, before the Independent People’s Tribunal (IPT) held on April 1-2, 2017, talked about how his father Karta along with other villagers was forced to act as a shield while the cops tried to eliminate the militants. The dead bodies of the villagers were cremated at Tarn Taran. He also revealed that he tried to secure his father’s dead body to perform his final rites but the hospital refused to give it. Virsa pointed out that no mention of the cremations of the nine people killed on June 9, 1992 has been made into the CBI list of unidentified cremations, even though the SHO Gurbachan Singh had listed their names in the FIR that was filed in his thana. Patricia Grossman, a senior researcher with Human Rights Watch, has in her book India’s Secret Armies written about a police officer who estimated that at the height of Operation Rakshak, “500 people were killed by the police from his police station alone.” The trigger for the PDAP investigation has been the abduction and killing of human rights activist and lawyer Jaswant Singh Khalra, who had joined the Human Rights Wing of the Akali Dal in the 1990s. In 1994, Khalra was investigating the disappearance of a friend whose body, he discovered, the police had secretly cremated at the Durgiana Mandir cremation ground in Amritsar district. Khalra had launched an investigation on these secret cremations and used these government records to release a report on the disappearances. The police attempted to discredit him by claiming he had links with militants, but Khalra was willing to take the authorities head on. On September 6, 1995, he was picked up by the cops in the presence of Rajiv Singh, a journalist from the Ajit groups of papers. Jaswant’s wife Paramjit Kaur, when trying to track down her husband, learnt that he had “mysteriously disappeared”. She subsequently filed a habeas petition in the Supreme Court but her husband could not be tracked down. While Paramjit received compensation of Rs 10 lakh for the disappearance of her husband, the NHRC gave a compensation payment of Rs 1.75 lakh to 1,245 individuals who were the next of kin of those wrongfully cremated. By refusing to investigate cremations that took place outside Amritsar, to hear any evidence from survivor families or witnesses, and to accept challenges to the police version of events based on victim testimony, the NHRC has in effect shielded the perpetrators, pointed out human rights lawyer Colin Gonsalves, who represented the survivors families before the NHRC . Justice A.K. Ganguly (retd), a Supreme Court judge speaking at the IPT panel, expressed shock and dismay that the NHRC had limited its investigation to the three crematoria in Amritsar, Tarn Taran and Majitha, and left the rest of Punjab completely untouched. “As a human rights activist, I feel that any case of cremation of human bodies and then describing them as unidentified, is itself a gross violation of human rights…this is a total denial of the rights of the people of Punjab.” Nor did the NHRC hold any officials accountable for repeated violations of the law, thereby creating a sense of impunity amongst people who have broken the law. This led tribal activist Soni Sori to emphasise at the IPT that if the Punjab police had been taken to task for their excesses, then the systematic violations of the rights of life and liberty in the states of Chhattisgarh, Kashmir and Manipur would not have occurred. The PDAP are hoping that the highest court in the land will help provide a sense of reconciliation and reparation to thousands of affected families. This should also help remove the stigma attached to victims of ‘terrorists’, as they fall outside the scope of rehabilitation extended to other civilians. They are also demanding the setting up of an Independent Special Prosecution Office that can investigate and prosecute these mass state crimes. Rashme Sehgal is a freelance journalist based in Delhi.
  4. NEW DELHI – The 1984 massacre of Sikhs following the assassination of Prime Minister Indira Gandhi that claimed the lives of an estimated 8,000 people in Delhi and around the country were not spontaneous as has been made out but were Gandhi government-orchestrated, says a scathing new book on the four days of mayhem, adding it’s time the world took note of the killings, as it did of the slaughter of a similar number of Bosnian Muslims in 1994. The book titled “1984 — India’s Guilty Secret”, written by Pav Singh, was released recently. “At the time, the authorities projected the violence as a spontaneous reaction to the tragic loss of a much-loved Prime Minister. But evidence points to a government-orchestrated genocidal massacre unleashed by politicians — with the trail leading up to the very heart of the dynastic Gandhi family — and covered up with the help of the police, judiciary and sections of the media,” the author claims. “It is believed that key players in the then Congress government used the increasingly volatile situation in Punjab to blur the perception of the Sikh community in the eyes of their fellow citizens,” writes Pav Singh, a member of the Magazines and Books Industrial Council of Britain’s National Union of Journalists. The Delhi HC on Tuesday reserved its order on a plea by the SIT probing anti-Sikh riots cases, seeking to cancel the anticipatory bail granted to Congress leader Sajjan Kumar. Justice Anu Malhotra heard the arguments of the counsels for the SIT, Kumar and riot victims, and said it would pass an order. Additional Solicitor General Sanjay Jain, appearing for the SIT, argued the trial court’s order of granting anticipatory bail to the leader was ‘perverse’. PTI
  5. Often Shiv sena in punjab are dismissed as rats as clowns as fools who run away from brave Sikh warriors. However what our Sikh youths dont know is that the people who belonged to those organisations at the time had their role in the genocide and mass murder of Sikhs in 1980s/90s how they were part of the same false flag Indian state terrorist machinery that operated black cats, alam sena, virk sena,etc Below a short extract from " Truth About Punjab, SGPC White Paper, Gurdarshan Singh Dhillon " --------------------------- Siege of the Sikhs : State Terrorism in Punjab Logic of KPS Gill was that the police were dealing with people who did not believe in any laws and so unless the police too was lawless it could not really fight them,"^ Gill justified the policy of creating under cover squads. He said, "The security forces in Punjab can do nothing without special spotter's parties and there is no question of doing away with them."^ He was reported to have prepared his 'elimination lists', with instructions from the I.B. When a team of the Punjab Human Rights Organisation (PHRO) who had a long interview with Sumedh Singh Saini, Senior Suprintendent of Police, Bhatinda, asked him to comment on the armed vigilante groups created in many districts of Punjab, he too is reported to have said, "What was wrong if they were organised to assist the state to neutralize terrorists?'" Besides vigilante squads, there were other squads also who were responsible for deadly intrigues and murders. In a revealing letter written to the Lok Sabha Speaker Rabi Ray, Simranjit Singh Mann, while submitting his resignation from Indian Parliament, drew attention to the other hit squads called the "Black Cats"and "Indian Lions", who were operating in the State in a clandestine manner and were responsible for murdering and pillaging." Mann complained that three members of the executive of his party, including Jagdev Singh Khudian MJ*. were done to death by the "Indian Lions" outfit.^ Mann regretted that even though the Justice Harbans Singh Rai Commssion appointed by the government had indicted the Punjab DGP, K.P.S. Gill, in connection with the Khudian murder, yet no action was taken against him.' '^ ' "The state is actively involved in killing and murdering Sikh leaders and I have been threatened by the "Indian Lions" which has several other names - 'Vaidya Commando Force" (VCF) and "Lala Jagat Narain Tiger Force".' said Mann. The Tribune reported the formation of a secret militant organisation called the "Indian National Army" which recruited commandos to fight terrorists m Punjab. The report said, "Mr. Dayal Singh Chief General of the army said to-day that commandos were drawn from the Army, the BSF, the CRPF and the Punjab Police. He also introduced a commando to newsmen, who, he claimed belonged to the BSF."' All India Hindu Shiv Sena also trained its own commandos to carry out clandestine activities. 'Current' weekly in its issue dated August 5-11, 1987, brought to light a story which described a camp "somewhere in Amritsar district", where the AH India Hindu Shiv Sena was training about 1,000 of its young followers in the use of arms and commando tactics. The boys let their hair and beards grow and assumed the appearance of Sikh youth. The Sena president Surender Kumar BUla managed the camp and told the reporter that the idea was that these young men would act as agent provocateurs, attack the Sikhs and thereby create an aversion among Sikhs for the militants. A group photograph of Surender Billa and his fake Sikhs was also shown in the Weekly. There were reports of nine similar camps located all over Punjab. It is obvious that these camps could not have operated without the patronage of those in high places. These commandos indulged in looting and extortion's. According to a Tribune report (August 13, 1991), "instances of miscreants, some belonging to the Hindu Suraksha Samiti, having written letters in the name of the Dashmesh Regiment demanding ransom from members of the minority community have come to light in Bhatinda district recently. In police records Surender Kumar BiUa was shown as a man' wanted by the police but actually the government made no effort to nab him. He and his cohorts were allowed to go ahead with their mischievous plans. 'Frontline' reported (14-27 May, 1988) that 'in Punjab it is an accepted view that at least some of the death squads have been unleashed by the government.' This was a comment on a story reported by a freelance journalist that RAW was using imported AK 47s and RPG - 7 anti - tank rocket-propelled grenades in the Punjab in order to justify the 59th amendment to the Constitution, by which government can impose an emergency on the state and suspend the right to life.' Economic and Political Weekly' in a news report of April, 16, 1988, had asked 'Are the killings in Punjab the handiwork of the extremists ?' The report observed that 'strategic' killings by officially planned agent provocateurs may help the government to precipitate further authoritarian control by assuming more military powers.' The intention was to create an atmosphere of anarchy and violence so that, out of frustration, the people absolve the state for its direct use of violence and other means of repression. Such activities added an ominously new dimension to the tragic scenario and led to an atmosphere of terror and insecurity. Chandan Mitra observed, "The police under-cover operations have added to the confiscation over genuine and fake militancy."^ The Washington Post reported that the Indian security forces conducted a highly realistic mock hijacking of an airliner that fooled many people into thinking that it was a genuine terrorist action by Sikh militants. The purported hijackers issued a number of demands in the name of a Sikh extremist group. The exercise ended peacefully at an airport in West Central India but not without spreading alarm throughout the country.^ Such obnoxious tactics were used to blame and defame the Sikh community, to stoke up communal fires and to bring about reprisals in order to divot attention fix)m the real issue
  6. Reported Missing 25 Years Ago, Prof. Bhullar’s Father is Finally Declared Dead by Bathinda Court By Sikh24 Editors - May 31, 2017 BATHINDA. Punjab—A Bathinda based Court of Civil Judge Parsmeet Rishi has declared S. Balwant Singh Bhullar (father of political Sikh prisoner Prof. Devenderpal Singh Bhullar) dead after 25 years of his abduction by the Punjab police cops. The Court has declared him dead on the ground that no one was able to make any contact with him in the past 7 years. The Court has pronounced its decision after taking affidavits from Prof. Devenderpal Singh Bhullar and his brother Tejinderpal Singh Bhullar that they had no objection in declaring S. Balwant Singh Bhullar dead by the Court. As per eyewitness reports, S. Balwant Singh Bhullar was kidnapped by tge Bathinda police from his home in Dyalpura Bhaika on December 12, 1991. Amongst several eyewitnesses, Mukhtiar Singh had confessed that the police had picked up Prof. Bhullar’s father and later declared him as missing. It is pertinent to note here that Bibi Upkar Kaur (mother of Prof. Devenderpal Singh Bhullar) had moved a petition in Bathinda Court on January 14, 2013 against police officers for abducting and killing her husband. Prof. Bhullar’s father, uncle and a friend were abducted and subjected to ‘enforced disappearance’ in December 1991 by Punjab police cops led by ex-DGP Sumedh Saini. Meanwhile along with extrajudicial murder of his father, Prof. Devender Pal Singh Bhullar was sentenced to death in a case pertaining to a deadly attack on the president of India’s ‘anti-terrorist’ unit, Maninderjit Bitta. Bitta was employed by the Indian state to employ ruthless force on Sikh youth in Punjab. He was then targeted for his brutality by Sikh freedom fighters during the post 1984 period. Professor Bhullar was then unjustly arrested as a suspect in the attack, despite simply being an outspoken lecturer in Ludhiana. Since his incarceration, he has been confirmed medically as having dipped into a severe state of mental instability due to his treatment in prison. In June 2015, Prof. Bhullar was transferred to the Central Jail of Amritsar in Punjab by the government, under pressure of the Bapu Surat Singh hunger strike campaign to free illegally held Sikh prisoners. He is currently detained in Amritsar Jail. https://www.sikh24.com/2017/05/31/reported-missing-25-years-ago-prof-bhullars-father-is-finally-declared-dead-by-bathinda-court/#.WS_0-8VEG0c
  7. There is an etheophian farmer who has recently been arguing for legal aid to sue the UK govt in crimes against his people. The Sikhs have a bigger case for suing not only the UK govt but all the other governments for their role in the Sikh holocaust of 1984. * They financially aided and military advised the Indian govt military against sikh religious and political figures (ie sant bhindranwale). Theyn interfered in the political and religious affairs of the Sikhs and their fundamental human rights of self determination and freedom * They deported some Sikhs not granting them political asylum when they were victims of indian state terror * They Banned two sikh separatist fighting forces against Indian union forces whereas they allow British jews to get armed training in self defense militia's and IDF in israel. Which is open discrimination and favoritism against religious / racial minorities. More to add to the list
  8. well done everyone who came down today in London, an impressive turn out possibly bigger than last years 30,000. Finally after years of trying to get on the news this peaceful protest that Sikhs have done for the last 30years non stop has made it on headline bbc news so congratulations to them for highlighting this and all those who took part.
  9. AMRITSAR: A decade of terrorism starting in the mid-1980s not only spelt doom for Punjab but also changed identities of many professionals. Brahmin police officials and journalists started growing a beard and sporting a turban as it allowed them to do their job better.But the professional disguise has become an integral part of their lives today. Thirty years after Operation Bluestar shook the foundation of Punjab, at least three Brahmins have converted their Sikh mask into their real face. Pathankot DSP (traffic) Vikram Sharma has set an aarti as his cellphone ring tone but his appearance is that of a Sikh. The cop not only fought against militants during the heydays of the violence in Punjab but is also a victim of terrorism. "A Sikh appearance helped me gather more intelligence and create a better network of sources to crack down on terrorist dens," he says. Sharma lost seven members of his family, including his parents and brother, in two separate terror attacks in 1989 and 1992. His decision to change his appearance took his family by surprise. "My wife Vimal was shocked to see me in a turban but never objected to it," he says. "This is who I am now. I can't imagine my life without a turban." Harkanwal Korpal was a reporter with a Punjabi newspaper working in Amritsar during days of militancy. A Saraswat Brahim, Korpal also chose to wear turban and grow a beard, which helped him get scoops. But after adopting Sikh attire, he also studied Sikhism. Korpal, a practising Sikh now, says he could have returned to his Hindu appearance but he chose to remain a Sikh. "I am amused when my Hindu relatives call me 'Sardar ji'," he smiles. Sub-inspector, Crime Investigation Agency staff, Tarn Taran, Anil Kumar Sharma has also been sporting a turban since the militancy days. "A Sikh face helped me deal with militants," he says and adds that the turban gradually became part of his life. Today, he is expert in the intricate art of tying a turban. "I believe in both Hindu and Sikh religions and regularly visit temples and gurdwaras," he says. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Bluestars-mask-turns-Hindus-into-Sikhs/articleshow/35801317.cms ===================================== chanakya comes to mind and his ancient hindu bramin art of deception when fighting against their perceived enemies. This is how they gave Khalistan a bad name, this is how they killed generations of innocent punjabi Sikhs in india and punjab and other people. And this is how the indian brahminwad establishment does war like the cowards that they are. The only positive to come out of this story is that one of them went on to convert to Sikhism while others remain hindu at their core.
  10. When the revelations of operation sundown came out recently in an Indian magazine by 1 Indian journalist it seemed to collaborate with what the amritsar massacre inquiry report conducted by the current british government had concluded when published later on. What we need to know is this a fake story a fake operation put into the Indian and worldwide press to divert the real role of the UK thatcher government in 1984? Because this operation sundown story broke before the report was published and the Sikh federation along with other Sikh organisations and Tom watson MP had asked the govt to clarify what they knew of operation sundown. So did the current british govt and indian govt collaborate and come up with a fictitious "operation sundown" out of thin air to make their role seem insignificant and only advisory. What was clear from the report that an SAS person had visited the sri harmandir sahib in feb 1984 for recconersince and was able to walk around the complex unhindered or attacked by supposed "sikh terrorists" , "sikh extremists", "sikh dissidents" as they were then labelled. We know for sure that thousands of pilgrims of all religions and walks of lives were freely coming and going out of the temple. So what need was an SAS or any other special forces person to decide to attack our most holiest shrine even for only a limited commando strike to take out alleged extremists. It is not the role of the UK govt to decide or interfer in the religious or political affairs of the Sikhs of Punjab. It is not in the remit or right of the UK government to behave in such a manor. Sant bhindranwale was an elected head of damdami taksal one of the most respected institutions of Sikhism to plan an attack or abduct him is declaration of war against the Sikh faith....So thats one point against the UK govt. Another point is why was relentless gunfire directed at sri harmandir sahib just before the SAS agent was about to leave? There are reports in articles that there was gunfire directed at people in the darbar sahib complex from outside. This shows they were trying to test the resistance and draw return fire to test the capabilities of the so called "sikh dissidents" no return fire was offered. So thats another point against the UK govt. We learnt an important document was destroyed in 2009 by the UK ministry of defence (MOD) under the watch of the then labour party government. What we need to know is under whose authoritisation was this done, and why was such an important file destroyed when no file should ever be destroyed that contains such highly sensitive information about the role of the armed forces of UK government. Was the file destroyed recently under duress from the now government and made to look like it was destroyed in 2009? What did that file and documents contain? Alot of questions need to be answered and research, investigations an analysis done by everyone. If anyone has any further information or questions to add please feel free.
  11. The witness speaks of the sufferings and lack of warning offered of the indian state terrorist army attack on the Golden temple. She recalls how the indian army led by the demonic dog general brar the criminal corrupt atheist indian nationalist showed no mercy to Sikhs it was an major terrorist attack on the heart and minds of Sikhs worldwide
  12. I was sent by RAW but no one recognised me when I was in jail: Daniel IBNLive.com | Updated May 03, 2013 at 03:56pm IST Daniel hails from Gurdaspur district's Dadwain village and was apprehended by Pakistani rangers in 1993. He was jailed for over four years. He now pulls a rickshaw. He alleges that the Indian authorities who sent him across the border refused to recognise him and help him out once he was caught. According to him, he met many other Indians incarcerated in jail in Pakistan on espionage charges. Daniel, Indian who served jail term in Pakistan, joined IBNLive readers for an interaction on the life of an Indian in a Pakistani jail. Q. Once you came back, Did our politicians ans authority help you? Asked by: Mahesh V I was sent by RAW but no one recognised me when I was in jail: Daniel Daniel, Indian who served jail term in Pak, joined IBNLive readers for an interaction on his life in Pak jail. A. No they did not help me at all. Instead I was interrogated and tortured by policemen. They instead levied a case on me saying I willingly went to Pak. Q. How was you treated in Jain and by Pakistan Authority? Asked by: Mahesh V A. I was in Sialkot jail. I was severely tortured and severely beaten. Electric shocks and all. Q. When you approached Indian diplomats in Pakistan, what was the response you got? And who was helpful to understand? Asked by: Mahesh V A. For three days the consulate in Rawalpindi listened to me but nothing after this. Q. Do you feel like coming back to a country which fails to recognize you? This nation cares more about terrorists than our own citizen. Was there any effort taken by our holy politicians to save you? Asked by: Ravish A. I was sent by RAW. It's better not to ask me this question. I run my family by plying a rickshaw. My family did not get any help from the govt while I was in jail. Q. Why did the Indians send you across the border? Asked by: airbuss A. I was sent to spy on a few things. I can't say more. Q. Daniel, do you think there is an "Eye for an eye" philosophy in the jails in India and Pakistan, or both Sarbjit/Sanaullah were exceptional cases. Was there, ever, an incident of rough treatment meted out to you as an Indian prisoner in Pakistan? Asked by: Mansoor A. Yes, it is not of any use. But we should not expect anything from the govt. Q. does the fact that both Indian and Pakistani men are prisoners there,not enough to bind both nationals on humanitarian and emotional ground? Asked by: pallavi sakhare A. In an ideal world it should be. But the agencies on both sides of the border are heartless and just push forward the agenda of the state. Till common people take matters into their hands, nothing will change. Q. It became my perception with time that Indian govt particularly the Congress has no nationalistic agenda. Especially when it comes to nationalism (Indian people in Pakistani, Sri Lankan jail, national integrity) or the Indian Hindus conditions in domestic as well as internationally fora. They have only one focus Muslim vote-bank to be in power and nothing else. Asked by: Satya A. I can't say much about this. I am not an educated man. But during the BJP govt too, many young people were pushed in across the border. Some of them were caught and the Indian govt did not recognise them. It is not about parties but I may be wrong. Q. Because you was jailed in Pakistan, are you getting different treatment when you was looking for a job in India? Asked by: Mahesh V A. No one would give you a job, if you have been in jail. And if you were in a Pakistani jail, you get what I mean. No one would touch you even with a barge pole. Q. Why not talk about RAW? You were only doing a job...you better not pull rickshaw for life and rot for a good job you did? Why not struggle for compensation? Asked by: Irfan Sayed A. I don't know much about them. I was approached by them and did as I was told. I am happy to be alive. Compensation is a day dream for poor people like us. Q. Would you do it again? For the country? After all that's happened. Asked by: Shabbir A. Never, never again. All that talk about country is very rosy from the outside. Once you face the music, you will know. It's very murky. Q. How is life in Jail for an Indian in Pakistan Asked by: Alok A. Horrible but you have to tough it out as one has to come back to his family. It is just that hope that keeps you going.
  13. If we analyse the situation how indian union is a mafia state run by corrupt brought out politicans, there is 0% of Sikhs or any other minorities having justice, equality or even freedom from the union. The mistake made in by the sikh leadership in 1947 was so deadly by not understanding and having the foresight that the once warring hindu kingdoms combined into one entity into an indian union it would then be controlled by a few elitist families who are the corrupt politicians controlling all the power and resources of that land and nation. And if we look at history the only way Sikhs got power and put an end to injustice and tyranny on the community was through armed forces. Without such tools and option there is no way would indian govt just give up hold or grip on Khalistan by peaceful and democratic means by the ballot. We just have to look at kashmir to see what they do there even though most of he muslim population there who want out of the union by democratic means they get brutalised by the army and police.
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