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.If we don't get Khalistan, I think Sikhi would disappear centuries from now. We r seeing it now as well.This is how badly we require Khalistan.

2 parts of my question aren't clearly answered- 1) can i myself use kara for drawing circles? 2) can i lend it to my friends for same purpose???

Looks like u have taken it from a TV broadcast :T:

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Sikh Sangat jee, i wanna know is it ok to use kara to draw a circle on paper for making various diagrams (like histology diagrams)? I often do this at my medical college. Even my friends ask me for kara to draw a circle and I usually give. I wanna know if it's fine? vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

He's very cute. May god Bless Him

Sikh Coalition Receives Interfaith Tribute Award This summer, the Interfaith Center of New York presented "The James Park Morton Interfaith Tribute" to Harpreet Singh, Director of Community Relations for the Sikh Coalition. Singh received the award in recognition of his work towards making New York a safer place to live in response to the wave of hate crimes and violence that had erupted against minorities after September 11, 2001. Others who were honored at the event included Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Nina and Daniel Libeskind, Uma Mysoreakar, Ratan Barua and Ayisha Al-Adawiya. The event, which took place at the Manhattan Center, also consisted of presentations by John Whitehead and Harry Belafonte, a performance by Abdel Salaam and The Forces of Nature Dance Theater Company, a tribute to local leaders and interfaith blessings. For more information about The Sikh Coalition, visit www.sikhcoalition.org.

Tania fights to be an Aussie MATTHEW HORAN 31aug03 A FIVE-YEAR-OLD girl born in Australia whose parents are seeking refugee status will be the subject of a High Court challenge arguing children born in Australia are citizens. The landmark case has implications for thousands of children born in Australia to asylum-seeker parents. Tania Singh was born in Sydney, speaks with an Australian accent and thinks Brett Lee is the best cricketer in the world. But she faces being deported to India – a country she has never visited and none of whose languages she speaks – if her parents' application for refugee status is turned down. Tania and her family will go to Canberra tomorrow to sit in the High Court before Justice Michael Kirby. The Citizenship Act says the children of non-residents born in Australia can become citizens only if they live in Australia until they are 10 year. Tania's barrister, Bruce Levet, who took Tania's case for free after being approached by a refugee organisation, will argue that the Act is unlawful and that Tania acquired either Australian citizenship or nationality – two slightly different concepts under law – because of her birth. Mr Levet will also argue that part of the Citizenship Act is unlawful because the Constitution does not give the Federal Government the power to determine that children born in Australia are not nationals. If Tania's case is successful she will be able to stay in kindergarten with her best friends. "Australia is t he best place," she said as she played with her teddy bear in a room filled with pictures of fast bowlers Lee and Glenn McGrath. "I like Brett Lee because he is the best cricketer." Tania's father Malkit, 34, fled India in 1997 after years of persecution because of his Sikh religion. "My father was murdered, burned alive in his shop, during the riots when Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was killed by her Sikh bodyguards," he said. The Singh family entered Australia on a business visa bought in Delhi which turned out to be false. Tania was born about a year after the family entered Australia. "She is an Australian girl," said her mother, Sarabjeet, who was a teacher of English in schools in India. If Tania's case is successful, she will be allowed to stay in Australia even if her parents and brother are deported, or will be allowed to return at any time. Her parents could also apply to stay with her on a family reunion visa http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au/commo...255E903,00.html

In North Jersey, concern, anger Tuesday, August 26, 2003 By DOUGLASS CROUSE and DEENA YELLIN STAFF WRITERS Waking with a start Monday morning, Vairagi Shah looked up to find her mother pulling her out of bed and urging her to turn on the news. "All we heard was that there was a bomb in India," said Shah, a student who lives in New Milford. "We were so worried." As more details trickled in, Shah experienced dueling emotions - shock to learn that two car bombs had killed dozens in the coastal city of Bombay, but relief that the terrorists had struck far from her family and friends in another province. North Jersey residents with roots in India - even those accustomed to reports of violence in their homeland, a democratic nation of 1 billion people with diverse tongues and faiths - said they felt saddened and in some cases angered by Monday's bombings.Those with direct ties to Bombay reacted with alarm to Monday's attacks. Zacharia Ninan's eyes widened in horror when a reporter told him the news. "My brother is in Bombay," said Ninan, who lives in Teaneck. "I'm very worried now about him and his family. I hope they are safe. I will have to call him when I get home." Bhupendra Gadhavi, president of the Wayne-based India Cultural Society of New Jersey, blamed the increasing violence in India on international terrorist networks that "undermine the power of democracy" and misrepresent religious teachings, such as those of Islam." "These forces are using the cover of communal violence [between religious groups] and the workings of the under world in Bombay to harbor terrorists in that region," he said. "The spiritual leaders have a large responsibility to ensure that extremism does not occur in the name of spiritual beliefs. Religion should never be used as a front to take innocent lives." Gadhavi and several other Indian-Americans suggested that the Indian government has been fairly passive in its reaction to terror groups out of concern for world opinion. Gurmeet Singh, a Sikh who owns the New Subzi Market in Passaic, said the Hindu-majority government has failed in some cases to consider the grievances of the nation's religious minorities, including Sikhs and Muslims seeking more self-governance. "Nobody would look at what happened today and say that is a good thing, but if we want to stop these bombings, we have to put some of the blame on the government," said Singh, who left the state of Punjab in 1978. "The government always announces, 'This is a Hindu state.' That angers the minorities." Singh, 46, also criticized what he called the Indian Parliament's knee-<admin-profanity filter activated> response of blaming acts of violence on Pakistan, whose leaders issued strong condemnations of Monday's bombings. "We have a joke in Punjab: 'If someone's dog goes missing, just blame Pakistan,'" he said. Others said that in most cases Hindus and Muslims live together peacefully in India, and that most terrorist plans seem to be hatched outside the country. "The Muslims living in India are not the trouble," said Bharat Rana, who recently lost a City Council bid in Passaic, where more than 3,000 Indian-Americans live. Most come from the state of Gujarat, the site of some of the worst Hindu-Muslim violence in recent years. The state was put on alert after Monday's bombings. "When India split from Pakistan, India told Muslims, 'Whoever wants to go to Pakistan can leave.'" Rana said. "Most left, but those who stayed did so because they felt safe ... and because they consider India a sacred place." Today, he said, terrorist groups in India have grown more violent and sophisticated. "These groups, when they try to hit the target, they can contact each other in a few minutes," he said. "Before, when they didn't have all this technology, it was easier for the police to get them right away." Jogi Singh, who works at a store in Lodi, said he watched the early morning news and heard no mention of the bombings. "I had no idea," said Singh, who came to New Jersey from New Delhi 12 years ago. "This is really terrible. This gives me a very bad feeling."

Sikh bids for US history By Rachel Clarke BBC News Online in Washington Chirinjeev Kathuria's ambitions include the earthly and the out-of-this-world: he plans to get married and travel in space. Chirinjeev Kathuria believes his ethnicity will be a bonus But before that he wants to become the first ethnic Indian elected to the United States Senate. And it is not just his race that sets him apart - the beard and turban of a Sikh are an obvious visual reminder that he is not a traditional American politician. But while he has faced ignorance and discrimination, Mr Kathuria, 38, now believes his differences are a bonus for his political campaign to win the Republican primary next March and then stand for election as an Illinois senator. And a look through his biography shows so many high-profile successes that few would bet against him taking this next step in his American dream. There are several similarities between Mr Kathuria and another putative politician, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Both are immigrants made good, both now have thriving businesses that made them millionaires, both are Republicans who make a virtue from their lack of involvement in mainstream politics. But while Mr Schwarzenegger may become governor of California, Mr Kathuria hopes he could spark a revival in the Republican Party in Illinois as well a s attracting more ethnic minorities to the party and politics in general. 'Political paradox' It is unlikely to be an easy ride. A Sikh man was apparently the first victim of a hate crime after the attacks on 11 September 2001. He was shot and killed apparently because it was thought he was Muslim and, for that alone, associated with al-Qaeda. Mr Kathuria, who himself faced insults and discrimination in the wake of the attacks, acknowledges that his appearance might be a hindrance. "People think someone with a beard and a turban running for the US Senate, it's paradoxical," he told BBC News Online. Don't let the beard and the turban fool you, I'm an American Chirinjeev Kathuria But he said his appearance is actually becoming a bonus because people only need one look to spot the difference between him and the rest of the field standing in the primary. That was one of the reasons why Mr Kathuria was courted by the Republicans in Illinois. The state party needs a boost after losing the governor's mansion to a Democrat and seeing voters pick Al Gore over George W Bush at the last presidential election. If Illinois' Indian-Americans and other ethnic minorities voted Republican instead of Democrat, the senate seat being given up by Peter Fitzgerald could stay in Republican hands. But Mr Kathuria believes his election could have an impact far beyond Illinois. "Putting someone like me into office sends a strong message to the rest of the world that the Republican Party is reaching out." He accepts that he could become a "poster boy" for ethnic minorities but says he is also a genuine candidate with the intelligence and ideas to be a good senator. "I was not going to run [just] to send a message," he said. But if a by-product of his campaign is to raise people's expectations, that is fine. "There's got to be one person to do it and I think... it will open it for other Indians to run for the state senates, House of Representatives and so on - someone needs to set the pace." American dream On the other hand, Mr Kathuria wants voters to know: "Don't let the beard and the turban fool you, I'm an American." Senator Fitzgerald's retirement offers a "unique chance" He says his aim is to give something back to the country that gave his family so much. Mr Kathuria's parents moved to the US with him from Delhi when he was just eight months old. With just a few dollars in their pockets they arrived in Chicago, then home to only a few dozen Indians. His father sold insurance policies and his mother worked as a doctor as young Chirinjeev worked hard at school, graduating top of his class, going straight to medical school at Brown University in Rhode Island and following that with an MBA at Stanford. He decided not to practise medicine but try his hand at business instead. He worked to launch Morgan Stanley's investment banking operations in India, helped to found the free internet service provider X-Stream Networks and his group is launching medical diagnostic imaging centres across the US. He was also instrumental in setting up MirCorp, the firm that sent Dennis Tito into orbit as the first space tourist. That connection could well enable Mr Kathuria to achieve his wish of space travel, but political campaigning could hinder his other goal. "My mum always says that the one drawback is there is no way I am going to get married before the election," Mr Kathuria says.

we will not do what ind govt did. Why kick hindus out of khalistan? khalistan won't be pure Sikh State. It would be a secular country unlike Ind. All Hindus and people who belong to other communities would be reassured whether they want to live in Khalistan or go to India in a peaceful way. All minorities would be treated at par with the majority in Khalistan. By keeping other communities in Khalistan we would show how in a muticultural country , human rights could be respected. Remember khalistan would not be India It would be a diverse secular country

I think he's one of the 'Sikh of the Century'

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! 2 New Keertan Videos done by Bhai Tejinderpal Singh Ji have been added to Keertan Section of http://sikhbytes.guroocities.com Go to above site and then go to Keertan Section to watch the videos :nihungsmile: vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

where is singh khalistan da ? havn't seen his posts for a long time??

tough question jassika....

And where's the pic of Gurpreet Ji.

Hey Vicky, if that' s really u, then u look awesome, particularly now when u have taken amrit and wearing the kirpan. Hope this pic inspires others on this forum including me :D ) :nihungsmile:

Punjabi speakers outnumber Welsh speakers in London schools Prasun Sonwalkar (IANS) London, August 22 A high proportion of pupils in London schools speak languages of the Indian subcontinent such as Punjabi, Urdu, Gujarati and Bengali, a survey has revealed. Pupils from families with origins in the Indian subcontinent form the largest linguistic minority communities, it said. Punjabi speakers are the biggest of these South Asian groupings and they outnumber Welsh speakers. Official sources said different children attending many London schools speak 30 or more different languages. The survey covered 850,000 children in these schools. Head teachers are reportedly in favour of dropping French and German in favour of Punjabi or Bengali. Children between 11 and 14 are required to study at least one European foreign language. But head teachers have called for dropping this requirement on the ground that the linguistic abilities of large numbers of ethnic minority and refugee children were being ignored because they had to learn another European language as well as master English. The survey revealed that there are two main groups of Punjabi speakers, Sikhs from the Indian state of Punjab and Muslims from the Mirpur district of Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK). However, because Urdu is the language of Pakistan, Mirpuris usually describe themselves as Urdu speakers. Both groups are spread throughout Britain but have important settlements in London and the south, the Midlands and the north of England. Gujarati speakers are scattered throughout the country with particular concentrations in Greater London and the Midlands. Bengali speakers draw on a small, mainly Hindu, community from India's West Bengal and a much larger Muslim Bangladeshi community which is concentrated in the London boroughs of Tower Hamlets and Camden, though smaller settlements are also to be found in cities such as Coventry and Bradford. The survey reveals that the Chinese form another numerically important group in London's schools, although unlike the large South Asian communities, their patterns of settlement are more dispersed. Most Chinese came to Britain in the 1950s and 1960s to escape high levels of unemployment in Hong Kong.

Is there any of your and of gur ki sakhiya's photo in there? can u give us a direct link to that? :D

Town's religions join in walk for harmony Aug 20 2003 By The Huddersfield Daily Examiner HUDDERSFIELD Interfaith Council held a special event to promote friendship between the town's different cultures. The council has representatives from the Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Sikh, Hindu and Baha'i religions. The group organised a Walk of Friendship last Saturday, to encourage togetherness between followers of the six faiths. The walk started from the Muslim Community Centre on Clare Hill. Members of the six faiths are pictured on the march, including (from left) the Vicar of Woodhouse, the Rev Mel Garside, the Vicar of Huddersfield, the Rev Catherine Ogle, Hindu representative Karin Bali, the Muslims' Tariq Fazal, the Rev Emanuel Rahmat and Sikh representative Inderpal Singh Randhawa. Walkers gradually joined the procession, which called at Huddersfield Parish Church in Byram Street, the Hindu Temple in Zetland Street and the Sikh Temple on Prospect Street, Springwood. At each place the walkers were welcomed by members of that particular faith. Prayers and blessings were said and refreshments were on offer.

Punjab: Three KCF militants nabbed Amritsar, Aug. 19. (UNI): The Punjab Police arrested three Khalistan Commando Force (KCF) militants after a brief encounter at Keshal village in this district early today. DSP Kultar Singh said the militants identified as Gurbhej Singh alias Bheja, Manjinder Singh alias Munna, and Lakhvinder Singh, wanted to create disturbances during the Independence Day celebrations on August 15, but failed in their bid. Kultar Singh said the trio while approaching towards Kashel village resorted to firing at the police. Police also returned the fire and soon overpowered them. DSP Kultar Singh said Manjinder Singh alias Manna is the brother of slain militant Gurnam Singh of the KCF, while Gurbhej Singh alias Bheja is the former self-styled area commander of the KCF and was released from the jail on bail about two years in a militancy-related case. Bheja is also the brother of Kashmir Singh alias Shera, who was killed in an encounter with police a few years ago, he said. Two AK 47 rifles, three magazines and 57 cartridges were recovered from their possession, he added.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! Wow. It's Great. Congrats to both of u. May Waheguru shower kirpa on them. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! :nihungsmile: :D )

Veer MKhalsa Jee, Khalistan is our 1st choice, but I asked the question from amongst present countries.

What according to u Sikh Sangat Jee is the best Country for Sikhs to Live in? (I know the best choice would be perhaps our own Khalistan, but my question is from the countries that exist at present)

PM to unveil Sikh portraits in Parliament New Delhi, Aug. 16. (UNI): Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee will unveil the portraits of the late Master Tara Singh and freedom fighter Baba Kharak Singh - architects of the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) and the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC), in Parliament's Central Hall on August 21. National Commission for Minorities (NCM) Chairman, Tarlochan Singh said today that artist Phoola Rani was commissioned to do the work some months ago. "These portraits are the first of any Sikh leader to be exhibited in the Central Hall of Parliament," the NCM chief said, adding, the Prime Minister the same day would unveil a statue of Sikh king, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, at the Parliament compound. The move appears to be part of the BJP's efforts to win favour of the Sikhs ahead of Assembly elections in five States, especially in Delhi which is home to a large population of the community. Earlier, the BJP-led Central government had cleared a Delhi Assembly-passed legislation granting a second official language designation to Punjabi in Delhi, fulfilling a four-decade-old demand of the Sikhs. "The portraits of the Master and Baba Kharak Singh partially fulfill the Sikhs' long-standing demand as the community also want to see the paintings of freedom fighters Udham Singh and Bhagat Singh, among others, exhibited in Parliament," Tarlochan Singh said

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