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Thanks for your reply Pheena. lol remembered something while reading your post … I began doing path out of fear, Mum would get upset if I couldn’t remember panj pauri at the age of three. So for me it has been more of a routine than anything else. But for the last little while (years) I’ve grown to love reciting path, for the same reason Priyanka mentions in the 2nd sentence. Mine is a rhetorical question, just wanted to hear what others thought of it. Thanks much! :D

Gurfateh, Thank you. I understood everything in your post, many thanks for walking me through the shabad. Would like to clarify that I am not questioning the importance of meditation but rather those who chose not to do it, do they really end up in a penalty box ...

Dunno but I am beginning to doubt that ...

What does that mean? Btw I 2nd your post. Makes sense to me.

A power drill oh wait, it was heavy duty band-aids

meri chaloh mai

very cool indeed! I wonder how much code went into it ..

Here is one: http://www.sikh.net/SIKHISM/Gurbani/Gurbani.htm Translation for the one above: mUq plIqI kpVu hoie ] mooth paleethee kaparr hoe || When the clothes are soiled and stained by urine, 12 Jap Guru Nanak Dev dy swbUxu leIAY Ehu Doie ] dhae saaboon leeai ouhu dhhoe || soap can wash them clean. 12 Jap Guru Nanak Dev BrIAY miq pwpw kY sMig ] bhareeai math paapaa kai sang || But when the intellect is stained and polluted by sin, 12 Jap Guru Nanak Dev Ehu DopY nwvY kY rMig ] ouhu dhhopai naavai kai rang || it can only be cleansed by the Love of the Name. http://searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=sri...page&page=4

moot paleet kapre hoy de sabun la ye oh dhoy bharia mat papa ke sang oh dopai navaeke rang I think that's the one you are referring to.

Thank you for sharing. Not sure what I’m in search of, thanks for the Shabads - I firmly believe in all that. I know the answer to my question – those who don’t simply lose their chances of meeting the Chief. Doesn't appear to be promising at times on the flip side. Would be nice to have more replies, take any approach ... whether from SGGS, personal, what have you..

Good job :TH: I was gonna kick it up a notch cuz it seemed stuck on $25/26 for a while there. Quite impressive.

Nice. Sadly very few realise this.

What happens to those who don't do any paath/naam simram? odai, just wondering .. any views/ideas? Thx

highly recommended for sure!

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Guru Gobind Khudae Inhi Ki Kirpa Kay Saje Hum Hain Khalsa Meri Jaan Ki Jaan Prabh Joo Tho Keh Laaj Hamari Prof.Darshan.Singh--Mera.Man.Loche :TH:

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResu...isbn=0143031937 Great book! I own it ... strongly recommended http://www.sikhnation.com/GarlandAroundMyNeck.html Another great one I'm sure - own it - haven't read it though. Best gift I ever received :|

thx again

:| had never heard of Baba Atal Rai until now, thx.

Ok, thanks for replying. Nah I just thought you maybe personally involved with Sikh Giving, I do frequent that site. When I read this I thought to myself well this applies to the caretakers of the Gurdwara too.

Define "trusted" organisation. Not all Gurdwara committee's are tainted you know. So who exactly is Sikh Giving team comprised of? out of curiosity.

I don't mean to sound arrogant but how can the general public be certain that 100% of the dasvandh will reach this cause in one way or another? And the question doesn't just apply to Sikhgiving, how can we confirm that all charitable donations are being utilized/consumed 100% in the proper way? We can’t. Unless we directly partake in allocation of the funds raised, no one REALLY knows if 100% of the dasvandh is going towards the rightful cause. Ohh BTW, will I get a tax receipt if I make a donation on Sikhgiving?? :|

Good topic Balait_de_Sher ji So in response to your questions (my opinion of course): - In laymen terms it simply means – Giving. Whether its in the form of money, doing seva, donating clothes etc. basically any kind of offering where others can benefit from it. - We do it in hopes of helping others esp. those who need it the most. Or even to help Sikhi prosper in any way possible. - Same as above. This question is soo broad though, ok yeh the most common way we see it being utilized is in Gurdwara maintenance. While some may do it just to compete w/other Gurdwaras but that is also where Guru ji resides (in its physical form-SSGS) so I would personally want to make that location as pleasant as possible for Guru Ji and for those who come to visit (sangat). Yup, some things maybe of material value and maybe viewed as unnecessary, but when you love someone so much (in our case Babaji) some people do things in excess only out of pyaar. Anyway, so what should Dasvandh be used for? I can write a thesis paper on that. - Really hard to say, sometimes I go 3/month and then there are months where I don’t go at all. But if you want to give, give with an open heart – don’t cloud your thinking w/”oh I wonder how my $$ will be used” Oh and I am having no issues what so ever accessing http://www.sikhgiving.com/drugs/index.html ... its just you :| nice to see you guys got that site back :wub: Ohhh I spotted another question: I know there is no way for me alone to confirm where Dasvandh is going, but I do get a monthly income statement from the Gurdwara I attend which I study often and do a comparison to see if they simply plug in the same numbers from the previous month(s) but nope I actually see all kinds of different costs being incurred (i.e. April – kitchen expense was way higher than normal – my reasoning – most likely cuz of Vaisakhi). So this is sufficient for me, though it doesn't confirm much but works for me. I dunno, it depends on the individual re. your question.

exactly, only geenae chunae bundeh are genuine Sikhs. The rest are all hypocrites, including myself who answers Sikh when asked "what is your religion?" Errmm but thats not what this post is about ..

Eh, what ju saying willis? Don’t be bothered so easily by what others think or say … Well from my personal experience here is what I can confirm, I guess my best friend (whom I have known for few years) happens to fall under this category … as I can see you all like to itemize ppl in Sikhi. So if I can clear up any misconceptions I will certainly try. Contrary to the general word of mouth gossip (i.e. BS) on this community, my friend is super active with the involvement in and around the Gurdwara and so is the entire family. LANGAR IS KOSHER. Men in the family wear pugh (keshadhari?), my friend supported me 110% in becoming vegetarian .. in fact we supported each other and are healthy grass eaters I know more about my religion now than I ever did cuz my friend was/is the driving motivator. So what if they are slightly different from another society (i.e. having breakfast before weddings)? What about all those who get drunk after the wedding at the reception? :| @ No one is perfect. Learn to live your life as an individual before pointing fingers at others, look at things from a macro view. So just like how Portuguese are hooligans and Italians are dooshbags, Sikhs are hypocrites! Only a handful lead a peaceful life of Sikhi. Listen, this caste business is embedded in your brains – it invites nothing but hardship – so you can either choose to follow in your parents footsteps (caste-point of origination) or be an educated young adult and learn to mingle w/o censoring.