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waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh I am sorry if you dont hv tht much common sense mr ak-47. I took that text from a website which explained about nanakshahi calendar and it was written back in 1997-98. I never knew that common sense not that common, specially among present sikhs. these kind of things are supposed to be discussed and resolved by sitting together, not this way by playing in hands of brahminwadi sampradas who perform hawans and do whole lot of things against sikh maryada. what a favour Sardar Iqbal singh have done, uniting the whole panth at a time when we should be pressing our demand for lifting the ban on turban in france, bravo Iqbal singh ji and Taksal. They are doing a great job. did anyone hear taksal hiring a top end lawyer to fight cases of Jujharus and their families? did anyone hear taksal about Khalistan? or sikhs rights in India? what is their role in present scene ?

NO Jathedars ! the whole concept is flawed. and if you want to change SGPC president, then get off the computer chairs and come to punjab and take part in the electoral process. and then you may suggest someone. who gives you right to propose someone's name, when you not even take part in the process?

Sardar AK-47 ji, Sikhs want to use to this calendar because its not LUNAR based but a much advanced and error less SOLAR based calendar. In present world everyone uses the SOLAR calendar in their day to day life. Then why Gurpurbs should be based upon Punnia or Massya. what have you done to bring justice to families of those 250,000 Singhs? what is your contribution towards panth? A Change for good should always be welcomed. We people listen Kirtan on iPods, Stereo, TV, PC etc. whereas it was not done that way in Guru Ji's Time. We people read Gurbani on TV, PC, Mobile, whereas it was not done that way in Guru Ji's Time. Lest Be Brave enough to accept the truth and lets stop being double faced.

1. The length of the solar year of the Bikrami Samat does not conform to the tropical year length. The Bikrami year is sidereal year of 365 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes and 10 seconds. The tropical year on which the Common Era calendar is based, has its length as 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes and 46 seconds. If the months of any given Era are to recur consistently in the same seasons, then the year length has to be that of the tropical year. This difference of 20 minutes or so in the two types of years is because of the precession of equinoxes, the yearly retrograde motion of the first point of Aries of the ecliptic. Over a period of time, this difference builds up, and shows in those calendars, which are not based on the tropical year. The seasons in relation to the months begin shifting. This is the reason why Vaisakhi has shifted by 8-9 days from 1469 CE to the present times. The Vaisakhi dates for certain epochs are as follows : CE Year Vaisakhi Date 1000 22nd March 1469 27th March 1699 29th March 1752 29th March 1753 9th April (due to change from Julian to Gregorian Calendar) 1799 10th April 1899 12th April 1999 14th April 2100 15th April If Nanakshahi calendar is not de-linked from the Bikrami calendar, this shift will continue, and in 13,000 years Vaisakhi would occur in the middle of October. The seasons will be opposite to those, which are mentioned in the Barah Maha Majh, and Tukhari Banis. 2. The days in the months are not fixed. The number can vary from 31-32 days for the summer months and from 29-30 days for winter months. The rules for determination of Sankrantis, beginning of the months, is complicated and public have to rely on Jantri publishers for such a simple thing as the beginning of a month. 3. The lunar portion of the calendar, according to which most of the religious festivals are fixed, has its share of peculiarities. Since it is based on 12 months of the lunar cycle (full moon to full moon or new moon to new moon), its year length is about 11 days shorter than that of the solar year. Therefore, its year begins 11 days earlier in the following year in relation to the solar year. This is why the Gurpurb dates shift by about 11 days from one year to the other. This is not the end. To keep the lunar year in step with the solar year, every two or three years an extra month is added to the lunar year. This month is called malmas or intercalary month. That lunar year contains 384 or so days. This makes the Gurpurb dates to occur by about 18 or 19 days later when such a month is introduced. The month of Jeth that will occur in 1999 CE will be intercalated, i.e., there would be two months of Jeth, one Sudha and the other Mal. In the malmas or the extra month religious festivals are not celebrated. This is quite a complicated set up, and is also contrary to the philosophy of Gurbani according to which no month in itself is good or bad. The festivals and Gurpurbs that are celebrated according to the lunar calendar are called movable, and those that are celebrated according to the solar calendar are called fixed. The movable festivals are called as such, because their dates are not fixed in relation to the solar year. From year to year they occur on different dates of the solar year, though their lunar date is the same every year. Gurpurbs of the ten Patshahis are all movable. Vaisakhi and Maghi are fixed festivals. An example of movable celebration is the Parkash Gurpurb of Guru Gobind Singh. It is celebrated on the 7th day of the bright half of the lunar month of Poh (Sudi 7). This lunar date occurs on the following dates of the Common Era and Bikrami Era (solar) during the following eleven years: CE Date Bikrami Date CE Date Bikrami Date 24th Dec., 1990 10th Poh, 2047 12th Jan., 1992 28th Poh, 2048 31st Dec., 1992 17th Poh, 2049 19th Jan., 1994 6th Magh, 2050 7th Jan., 1995 24th Poh, 2051 28th Dec., 1995 13th Poh, 2052 15th Jan., 1997 3rd Magh, 2053 5th Jan., 1998 22nd Poh, 2054 25th Dec., 1998 11th Poh, 2055 14th Jan., 2000 1st Magh, 2056 This Gurpurb did not occur in the CE years 1991, 1993 and 1996. It will not occur in the year 1999 (the year of 300th anniversary of the creation of the Khalsa). It occurred twice in 1992 and 1995; and it will occur twice in 1998. According to the Bikrami calendar (solar) the date of Parkash of Guru Ji is 23rd Poh, 1723 BK. During the above period Gurpurb does not occur on that date. Rather, it occurs in the month of Magh in three years.

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh May you all "anti-Nanakshahi calendar" sikhs put forward some SOLID reasons behind your behavior of being anti to this calendar which gives us an oppertunity of being free from "kalank" of hindu riti-rawaj? or you just listen to what others say and without any logic, act upon it. I think for you people Nanakshahi calendar being related to SGPC is enough reason to act in such irresponsible manner. and coming back to Sardar Iqbal Singh, From what aspect he becomes a SINGH SAHIB of a Takht. Same is for Sardar Joginder Singh Vedanti. They are STATE appointed caretakers of these institutions and have no right to alter SIKH REHAT MARYADA. The whole process/thought of appointing JATHEDARS is flawed. Its PANTH and GRANTH combination which should head SIKH PANTH. stop being proud of being attached to particular jatha/samparada and start feeling proud of being a GURU KA SIKH. and have rational thinking.

A similar step was taken in 1999 on 300 <admin-profanity filter activated> diwas and solar panels worth crores are lying waste in Sri Anandpur Sahib. those Solar Modules at Sri Anandpur Sahib can be used in Sri Darbar Sahib. even if such plant is installed, the sikh diaspora should manage such plant on it own and not give it to SGPC to manage, such plants will need regular technical upkeep and other stuff

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though spokesman is most of the time anti-panthic but in this regard hes true. we saw horading of same MELA with pics of vedanti ji as guest in there, he goes there every year, this hazara singh was a mona, wore dhoti ...

Both of these hukamnamas were issued by Singh Sahib Bhai Ranjit singh ji.

the only person raising voice against such acts by anti-panthic elements is Sardar Jaswinder Singh Advocate (Member SGPC), he has been instrumental in getting CSJS to Sri Akal Takht Sahib & getting policy drafted by Punjab Govt against publishing of SGGS ji by private publishers. Jaswinder Singh Advocate on right hand side. but where do we see Akal Takht Sahib in this latest happenings? no statement from Sri Akaal takht Sahib Jathedar?? why so?? why sri akaal takht sahib failed to enforce the hukamnamas?? SGPC's stand regarding this issue is very very clear: http://www.sgpc.net/news/generalnews.asp 2nd news from top. Please email SGPC regarding this issue and this thread. SGPC's email is info@sgpc.net