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  1. Following meetings with the Metropolitan Police, the situation is now as follows. 1. It seems likely that the police will allow the 'Rally for Islam' to take place subject to any criminal offences taking place. There will be a heavy police presence. In previous years, the organisers have been targeted by civil actions in the Courts afterwards, for breach of bye-laws because the event has not had official permission. However, this has not deterred them. 2. The Metropolitan Police will be issuing a public statement soon. 3. In addition, the police will be referring the matter to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS). A Sikh representative made the point that Sikh organisations such as the ISYF and BK have been banned although they have committed any offences or been prosecuted but groups like al-Muhajiroun and the BNP can go around inciting violence against other communities. 4. The BNP (racist right wing political party) will be holding an unofficial i.e. illegal counter demonstration the same as they did last year. HOWEVER, in addition, the police Special Branch have said that, due to the fact that Rangers FC will be playing in London on Sunday, that fans may also turn up in Trafalgar Square to show support for the BNP (historically the BNP, Rangers hooligans and Northern Irish Loyalist terrorists groups have had strong links). PLEASE NOTE - the police are monitoring forums, emails and other communication methods in relation to this situation. 5. The Hindu community have also met with the police and are planning an official counter demonstration. They said in the meeting that they will bring 10,000 people!!! Also, it was stated that they woul d be taking out advertisements in the Hindu press and on radio. We will have to wait and see this! So it seems, that the Sangat who wish to attend on Sunday and show that Guru ji's nindia will not be tolerated must bear in mind the above facts. However, with Guru ji's blessing, we will emerge from this episode even stronger and united!!! As Baba Deep Singh ji did, maybe the UK Sangat is going to draw that line in Trafalgar Square - will you cross it and be counted? Gurfateh jio!
  2. http://www.muhajiroun.com/ Press Release Dated 12th July 2004 AN INVITATION TO SIKHS AND HINDUS TO EMBRACE THE TRUTH RALLY FOR ISLAM (IX) IN TRAFALGAR SQUARE - SUNDAY JULY 25TH – 1PM – 6PM – ALL WELCOME… Hundreds of Muslims from across the UK are set to converge in London’s Trafalgar Square on the 25th of July for the Annual Rally for Islam. This year will be the 9th anniversary of the rally and promises to be the best yet. The British public will once again witness many non-Muslims: previously Jews, Christians, Hindus & Sikhs (idol worshippers), Atheists, Socialists etc giving up their false beliefs and ideologies in order to embrace the divine way of life which Islam offers to them openly and publicly. Debates and Discussions on the inimitability of the Qur’an and the finality of the Message (of Islam) from God through the Messenger Muhammad (saw) will be held, with an invitation for all present to either refute Islam or accept its superiority. The speakers will also set out to present Islam as the only real future for Britain and indeed the World in terms of maintaining Honesty, Home-land Security, Morality, Mental well being, Family protection, continued scientific and material progress, psychological health as well as providing a comprehensive code for humanity to live their life by. The Square will also host a number of Marquees presenting various aspects of Islam such as its unique economic system able to solve the problems of inflation, the hoarding of wealth and the fair distribution of resources - Islam’s unique social system which eradicates the exploitation of the sexes and eliminates pr omiscuity, pornography and <admin-profanity filter activated> deviancy and Islam’s ruling system based upon the concept of sovereignty for God alone, where man is not a dictator (like Bush or Blair) but rather God’s trustee on Earth managing mankind’s affairs according to God’s infallible law...etc... Here is a message to all the Sikhs and Hindus; put your pride to one side and accept the Truth. Yes, Islam, the religion that you detest the most is really the only religion that will help you when you leave this life. To the Hindu’s; forget the caste system and all the fuss about reincarnation and accept the fact that everybody is equal in the eyes of God and all will be accounted on the Day of Judgement. As for the Sikhs, acknowledge, that as a man-made system your belief is really just a hotpot of different religions and opinions “jumbled together”. The fierce disagreements between Muslims and Hindu’s have been going since the advent of Islam. Historically, the effect of Islam in the Indian sub-continent region was instant. Its emphasis on One God corrected many of the social issues and “mystical” beliefs associated with Hinduism at the time. The caste system was seen in its true nature; a racist structure geared to preserve the rich over the poor. Islam offered those at the bottom of the organization a way of being equal and simultaneously having a belief system that fitted naturally with the human self. The Hindu tradition of worshipping idols was (and still is) seen as a major act of ignorance, as creation can never worship creation, particularly when there is a Creator who has designed and established everything from apples to zebras. Also, the heavy emphasis on superstition places the individual under much stress in his daily life. Islam in comparison has no place for false notions as everything is under the control of Almighty God therefore dismissing any talk of good or bad luck. As mentioned, Islam corrected the numerous inadequacies Hinduism imposed on soci ety; thus impressing on intellectuals such as Guru Nanak (the founder of Sikhism) that the religion of Muhammad (saw) was in fact the truth. However, Nanak could not accept Islam in its entirety so chose just the key features that favoured him and the people. However, because Sikhism is man-made it has many weaknesses, all Sikhs must ponder the following: Firstly, the religion lacks depth and is easily brainwashed by more dominant systems. Hinduism still has a great influence on the Sikhs as the caste system highlight – the idea that everyone is equal in the eyes of God is rarely practised by the Sikhs, as inter-caste marriage is still a taboo subject. Secondly, Nanak made no claims to divinity or to kinship with God and did not want to be worshipped as a kind of prophet (K.Singh, 1953). But, today many Sikhs do this by hanging a picture of Nanak and directing their prayers towards it. Thirdly, unlike Islam where the doctrine has stood firm for over 1400 years, Sikhism has evolved; taking in new directions with every new Guru. Key elements of the religion have been dramatically altered such as the treatment of the dead; in Nanak’s time they were buried whereas today they are cremated. Surely, these facts that are just a scratch on the surface emphasise the lack of Divinity found in this belief. Islam offers the individual and society peace, happiness and security as everybody acknowledges his and her Creator, Allah (swt). All the problems that man faces are not sorted out via various mystical ritual acts but through having Trust in Allah (swt). Islam is the religion for the whole of Mankind, whether somebody comes from Africa, Asia or Europe. Furthermore, the love of money, which is so rife in both Hinduism and Sikhism, forcing some people to be treated or considered insignificant because they do not have the latest BMW or Mercedes, is considered unimportant in Islam. The good deeds of an individual in this life and worthwhile actions that are not motivated by economic reasons will help the Believer to attain blissful happiness in Paradise. The Seal of Messengers, Prophet Mohammad (saw) said that at the lowest level of Paradise each person will have up to 10,000 servants! Another saying of the Holy Prophet (saw) was in relation to the love of this life to the Hereafter. He said (saw) the material life of this world is like a drop of water whereas all the delights in the next life are equivalent to the Ocean. So, the message to any Sikh and Hindu is do your research and ask yourself "are you Sikh or Hindu because you really want to be or is it because your parents are". Remember, on the Day of Judgment, no religion will be accepted from Allah except Islam. Come to Trafalgar Square on the 25th July 2004 and give up your false beliefs and accept the perfect and embrace Deen of Al-Islam. “And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.” [EMQ 3:85] Al-Muhajiroun The Voice, The Eyes & The Ears of Muslims P.O. Box 349 London N9 7RR 07956 600 569 or 07956 572 162 – Fax: 0208 803 4541 - Internet: www.muhajiroun.com
  3. sorry is should have said younger son please....
  4. We all know about Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale... but there never seems to be anything on his sons etc, as to why they didn;t follow in their fathers footsteps. Theres probably an obvious answer ! I've seen a couple of pictures of the younger son but never seen a picture of the older son who lives in the US. Anyone got any pictures of them ?? Would be good to get some insight as to how they were treated after their father passed away.
  5. Veerjii, the last story when they killed Gobind Ram was chardhii kala..... these stories opened up my eyes a little more......
  6. It's great to see how far our Gurus streched..... Any mroe intresting place where singhs have been sited and if they traditions are different ? I'm going to Dubai in a coupl eof weeks, does anyone know if there is a Gurudwara there?
  7. has anyone got a picture of Gobind Ram..... man this stuff makes me sick.... seriously sad stories that make you cringe. :wub:
  8. I've read the book, very well written...... I read General Brar's book also..... that give you a tottaly different prespective off events....
  9. Well has anyone got Sant Ji's sons pictures?
  10. Really Intresting stuff being posted up! please keep it going....... :TH: :TH:
  11. Bikramjit Singh Pajii, great pictures, could you tell me please if there is a website etc that I can see more pictures on? Seems like the pakistani singhs tie their Pugs in a different style also. Great Pics
  12. Hey pajii that was a great article!!! Anymore info on this subject...... Pictures of familys etc... has anyone ever been to Pakistan ? Why aren't the Hindus getting as much protection as the Sikhs ? I see Sikhs making a name for themselves in Pakistan.
  13. .... the paper needs the funding form somewhere, its not exactly telling people to go the palmist..... The sunny thing is that I met a full Sardar Pandit in india. I was baffled when i saw him and the way he was reading his mantars etc... B)
  14. Thats really intresting.... you see the dialects that sikhs from Afghanisthan use are very strange.... and they look different from Punjabi Sikhs also...... I suppose that's got a lot to do with climate etc ..... I've heard that there are a lot off rich Sikhs in Pakistan and have good busineses there also....
  15. HAs anyone ever come across any Sikhs living in Pakistan? I've heard that they don't get treated to well there and that also they are just converts from Islam ? Has anyone ever met these brother or sisters from Pakistan ? I've met plenty of Afghanisthani Singhs however!
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