DalbirSingh

Manjit's dad the jathedar was assassinated later by sikhs because the jathedar smuggled a gold brick in his jhora, he was caught in airport security. Better Manjit then another sikh, because most ordinary sikhs protests will be ignored where as his won't be it will only grow we need leaders who take more of these initiatives

haha muhammad is in narak hell fire You are absolutely right about those puratan singhs even the language they used is offensive, they would never say salam to a muslim. Now we have a whitewashed nanaksari muhammaden version of history where we are muslim appeasers guru nanak was a muslim and this thinking is making many sikh girls leave the faith under this ideological attack.

naa can't be bothered just watched all of his youtube clips. If there is something on his clips that he teaches in person then I think some of his students haven't convinced me about it. Besides that it seems they have great respect for their gurdev which is good, but i'm too used to the foreign informality of more mutual respect with your great teachers.

In the name of the most compassionate, the most merciful, the benefactor, the most Just. In the name of nanak we pray to you o' Whaeguru give us guidance and victory of the kuffar. May you make the armies of Nanak victors over all.

His misyonism is funny, this guy has presented a good RsS narrative. I've met harder hindus to debate. But his argument is based around corrupted views from sikh history texts which he claims are corrupted. So what can you say, people like that only see way by the miracle of gurbani Maharaja Ranjit Singhs mighty empire went to the dogs , just because of a woman. Maharani Jindan Kaur’s lover ( the biological father of Maharaja Duleep Singh ) Lal Singh and PM Gulab Singh did NOT see eye to eye. She kept needlessly interfering in political affairs. She dismissed PM Gulab Singh and made her lover Lal Singh the Prime Minister on 26 February, 1847.

He contradicted himself here "Two years in 1857 later Rothschild stopped all pretenses of being a trader and took over India with Sikh help." He was arguing sikhs were gullible hindus who fought to save hindus and india and the internet generation are separatists twisting history. He argues sikhs are patriotic but then argues above sikhs betrayed india in 1857. Besides his poor english, poor grammer, lack of citations, he seems to support a common RSS indian narrative I have heard sikhs who were brought up to believe this narrative also think his views to be true. We are in a bad state right now our gianis haven't done enough to keep sikhi's truth preached.

There was a facebook group or page about it, can't find it right now if I do I will post it up, I reckon I see your point of view hence why i said "acclaimed" and "apparently" rather than use words of conviction. I do realise it could be people with hatred for him, defaming him and making up stories. Even if I went around interviewing them I could be called a niddar hater, those people could be called fakers, actors or haters. I've got better things to do with my time then do that. I'm not really concerned too much about niddar, because I don't view him as a great force of evil against Sikhs we have bigger problems to deal with and for the most part some of the evil things people talk about him aren't even public like people say he drinks but we have sikhs drinking all over the show everywhere at the moment. This hindu-sikh thing he has is based around history which we say came due to the massand period who purposefully corrupted sikhi a time before rss were around perhaps the rss ancestors. You are right about the definition of a sport and mma being one, without rules people will end up being killed and competition helps in refining the skills, guru jis did a whole range of sports. Loads of people are in MMA it's a great sport for sikhs all our ancestors were masters of the predecessors of mma and when you see the fighters you see the kinda guys true old nihangs are described to be, the agility, speed, raw power and so on, perhaps it's frowned upon to show off but to develop such skills is good. It sounds like eye gouging and all of that is usually what self defence classes teach or rape safety classes for women. I don't think alot of sikhs are comfortable with the idea sikhs fought dirty and did ungentleman like acts of ripping someones voice box or kicking someone in the nut sack or pulling their gentils off. Perhaps if they were being attacked and bombarded with no way out but there is a general code of engagement in warfare studies but I guess muslims never followed many of them anyway and muslims do talk of sikhs being dishonourable wretches going to hell. Niddars maneuvers all are based around positions and that depends on speed- hand eye coordination if you are slow you won't get into those positions, and those people sikhs took on knew the art of engaging depends on speed, the best way to improve that is all sports and maybe mathematics or things like tetris things which improve mental speed like abstract testing. Basic training like boxing sparing, sparing helps. If you don't have a set of moves but are mentally fast taking on someone with a great technical moveset who is slow you could take them out, since you can see their moves before hand. You can probably even instinctively come up with counters if you are fast enough. But refining the skills all takes practice.

We don't have any lines in our scriptures which says Verily of the book go out and urinate on the bouncers of the kuffar Where as we can find verses for some of the bad stuff we find muslims doing, there are some bad things not recommended in islam like a muslim killing another muslim of the same sects unprovoked is against islam. At several times from some media outlet we can find at least one muslim justifying it on the net with verses.

Guru Nanak to Guru Gobind Singh are one and the same and Guru Gobind Singh said with the following verses which revealed to him by Sri Waheguru JI jae ham ko paramaesar ouchar hai | thae sabh narak kundd mehi par hai | mo ka dhaas thavan kaa jaano | yaa mai bhaedh n ranch pashaano | 32 | Translation:- "Those who call me God, will fall into the pit of hell. Regard me as a humble servant of the Lord and have no doubt about it."

Works all the way, as long as it doesn't turn into deep hyperventilating breathing making pigeon noises We can always adapt translations either way. Verily O people, Guru and God shall be recognised by you

Maybe the bouncer called him paki and he showed him who is boss, monty seems like a sober man it seems this must have been provoked.

There is no God worthy of worship except Whaeguru and Guru Nanak Dev ji is his Messenger

Let's say no sword hmm maybe say 2 out of 3, in a normal punjabi arena with no mats, just mud, then mat based and if 3rd round then hadh torh break bone or first blood competition Brock Lesnar isn't fake besides wwe he has been in mma, he has been the mma heavyweigh champ before wwe he was a proper amature wrestler, brock is a real fighter. Brock had to leave mma because of stomach problems he had. He couldn't continue taking real hits foreverer. MMA uses akido and all sorts of graples and strikes. Besides alot of niddars acclaimed ex students claim niddar is making it up using all sorts of mma. Best way is mma, mma is the new sport

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Just reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Brock Lesnar vs Nidddar who would win?

Found abit more on Guru Arjan Dev ji Sikh History from Persian Source: Sikhism and the Sikhism 1648-46 From Mobad Dabistan-I Mazahib P62 + P78-79 Many persons became his disciples. Nanak believed in the Oneness of God and in the way that it is asserted in Muammadan theology. He also believed in transmigration of souls. Holding wine and pork to be unlawful, he had [himself] abandoned eating meat. He decreed avoidance of causing harm to animals. {4} It was after his time that meat-eating spread among his followers. Arjan Mal, who was one of his lineal successors, found this to be evil. He prohibited people from eating meat, saying: “this is not in accordance with Nanak’s wishes”, Later, Hargobind, son of Arjan Male, ate meat and took to hunting. Most of their [the Gurus] followers adopted his practice. Just as Nanak praised the Muslims, he also commended the avatars, gods and goddess of the Hindus, but he regarded them all as created beings, not the Creator. He denied the [possibility of] Descent [of God into human soul] or Union [between God and man].{5} They say, he held the Muslims’ rosary in his hand and put [the Hindus’] sacred thread on his neck. (He recited the formula of faith and offered prayers in the Muslim manner, and recited the mantras and gayatri and offered puja according to the Hindu Religion) [4] Version A makes a more detailed statement in the passage corresponding to the last four sentences and the first sentences of the next paragraph: Nanak asserted the oneness of God, and believed in the Bridge across Hell, the Day of judgement, Hell-fire, Hell, and Paradise and all the rules of Muhammadan Law (Shar’-I Muhammadi) and the word of God. He also forbade as unlawful things like wine and pork in the same way he held it to be forbidden by Muslims and His Holiness Mohd...; and whatever it is permissible to eat, under Muslim Law, he did not forbid, except for beef and meat. He taught that the cow be honoured, and himself abandoned eating meat. He commended all Muslims. He believed too in avatars [incarnated deities]. Devas [gods], devis [goddesses] and rakhisars [saints] of the Hindus. He also held as true what they say in respect of sarg [sanskrit svarga] and narak [sanskrit, naraka], that is heaven and hell, according to their own belief, and of transmigration of souls (tanasukh). But he regarded all of them [the deities] as servants of the Unique Creator-Lord, and denied [the phenomena of] God’s descent into man (hulul) and communion between God and man (ittihad). [5] Hulul o ittithad, the word hulul standing for God’s alighting to dwell in a human soul, and ittihad for the soul’s communion with God, both being sufic concepts.

Muslims tend to have a habbit of not saying the truth just like when you look at how they report wars, such as israel or 7 7 and 9 11 for them was done by zionist alien freemason jews satan worshipping 20th dimensional reptiles who wish to defame shariah and impose democracy

Sikh Resistance to Ahmad Shah Abdali’s Invasion of the Punjab 1764-65 From Qazi Nur Muhammad, Jangnama Sikh history from Persian Sources 204-211 Translated by Iqtidar Alam Khan (this text was compiled originally in 1765) Do not call the Sikhs ‘dogs’ [sags], they are [in fact] lions; in the battle-field [they] are courageous like bold lions. How could a warrior who joins the battle roaring like a lion, be [compared with] a dog? …. Leaving aside their [mode of] war, hear you of another aspect that distinguishes them among warriors. At no time do they kill one who is not a man (namard). Nor would they obstruct the passage of a fugitive. They do not plunder the wealth and ornaments of a woman, be she a well-to-do lady or a maid-servant. There is no adultery among the Sikhs, nor are these people given to thieving. Whether a woman is young or old, they tell her, “Budhiya, go and occupy a corner.” The word “Budhiya” in Hindi language means “old woman.” No thief is to be found among these Sikhs, nor is a house-breaker [present] among them. They do not approve of adulterers and house-breakers, [but] otherwise their conduct is not commendable. If you are not conversant with their religion, I [should] tell your honour that the Sikhs are the disciples of a Guru, and that fortunate Guide lived at Chak [p159]. The ways and practices of these [people] are derived from Nanak who showed to the Sikhs a separate path. His [last] successor was Gobind Singh, from whom they received the title ‘Singh’. They are not from amongst the Hindus. These miscreants have a distinct religion of their own. Since you have obtained some knowledge of the conduct of the Sikhs, now hear of their country: they have divided up Panjab among themselves, giving it to every man, old or young… …. They have not learnt to have fear of any one. On Muslims, whether they are near or far, it is proper and obligatory that they should all unite in a body to attack those men and overthrow the foundations of the power of the Sikhs. God! Give our Shah victory for the sake of the prophet who is the benefactor of man, that he [the Shah] may remove their very foundations from this world, and reduce the repute of those accursed Sikhs!

So why are gurdwaras preaching about the wrong sheikh farid for sometime, they even got an imaginary painting of the wrong sheikh farid?

Is it possible we could work on developing transliteration translations of this granth, it's available in Punjabi gurmukhi, script and in Hindi- some google translators translate hindi to english poorly. Is possible to create the transliteration option like www.srigranth.org has using a created character map assigning punjabi letters to particular romanised equivalents for easy reading for younger generations. It's easier to do then hiring a team of punjabi translators on a basic £1 or $1 rate in punjab doing their own translations. http://searchgurbani.com/sri_gur_pratap_suraj_granth http://www.ik13.com/online_library.html

I'm sure a part to this book could be made aswell, there are more pieces sitting in pakistan university probably more secrets about us. I remember coming across some websites which had accounts. Those were jahangirs memoirs.

His Identity is important because it changes the context of the messages aswell, especially in parchar because if we are being told about a man who was guru nanaks devotee things change compared to a muslim who went around converting infidels who is made out to be guru nanaks equal and for some muslims guru nanaks teacher where guru is taught to be inferior to him. The message impact change also changes the themes and tones of gurbani on topics such as meat for one or fasting or passing or devoution

Now Sheikh Farid must have also had his own text of taswuff separately published in muslim circles what is that called have they ever been cross examined to see similarities?

To be honest i'm skeptical of nanaksar samprayada simply because of the donation requirements, the barsi donations that keep going on in those smagams and the whole be a good muslim teachings, being a good muslim contradicts sikhi. Things like cutting your hair and eating meat are sunah but go against sikhi. Besides which these teachings have made girls feel it's acceptable to marry muslims later on being lured they convert. It might sound far fetched but alot of these girls who convert in one phase refer to nand singh's teachings. Which don't sound like what guru gobind singh taught in dasam bani. Nand Singh's popularity in the 40s was a time when dasam granths parchar wasn't on the peak, as the rise of dasam granth understanding has taken place more and more people are understanding true sikhi.