Baldeep Singh

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Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaa Khalsaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeh! Pyare jio, I just wanted to share this awesome article by Bhai Sahib translated by Bhai Sahib Kulbir Singhjee from Tapoban.org. I am sure that you will gain alot from the Gyan of Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singhjeee ... Vahegurooooooooooo "Below is a very humble translation of an article from Bhai Sahib's book Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamaayee. In this article Bhai Sahib has very forcefully and passionately written about the paaras Kala of Gurbani. Bhai Sahib writes that even if Paath is done for a worldly reason, it ultimately is good. Please read on and forgive me for any mistakes in the translation Bhai Sahib's work: Book: Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamaayee Article: Parmarath te Suyarath layee Naam Baani Page No: 113 Edition - 11th edition (year 1999) **********Translation Begins************** Those persons who do Naam jaap and recite Gurbani for a worldly cause, though they first engage in this divine service because of their personal and selfish aim, but due to the intensity of their worldly aim, they do heavy paath and simran. Since Naam and Gurbani are Paaras-roop, by touching this nectar-like substance (Gurbani / Naam), the paaras kala of Gurbani is invoked and because of this, the servant of Naam Gurbani starts feeling the Rass (actual physical taste) of it and the concentration (surtee) of the servant changes from the worldly aim to the spiritual aim of life. Then the abhyaas of Naam and recitation of Gurbani is done only for the purpose of getting Rass from it. This way, the spiritual touching of Nectar-like Paras-Substance (Naam Gurbani) by the surthee takes it to the pinnacles of spirituality. The continuous sewa of Gurbani, changes the intelligence of the servant from worldly focus to the spiritual focus because in reality whole of Gurbani’s aim or purpose is to bring it’s servants to the spiritual heights. The divine service of Gurbani and Naam done for the high purpose of spiritual attainment, automatically fulfills the worldly needs of the servant. Up until the state of Naam-Rassak-Bairaagi (the ultimate Naam Avastha) there is always the peril or danger of getting embroiled in the Ridhi-Sidhi (psychic powers) powers but the truthful seekers and real-lovers of spirituality don’t get stuck in Ridhis Sidhis and they consider this kind of stuff as bonds of attachment. The intensive sewa of Gurbani enables one to realise that Ridhis Sidhis are just bonds of attachment and this is why they don’t get stuck in it. On top of this realization the sewa of Gurbani and the kamaayee of Naam brings such Anand (bliss) to the servant that he or she totally makes an about-turn from Ridhi Sidhi. So much so that they don’t even realize how much ridhi sidhi they have. They are totally engaged in the anand of Naam / Gurbani. “Apne lobh ko keeno meeth” ( I have made God my friend for my selfish needs) like pankitis (lines) are nothing but the truth and there is no doubt in the truthfulness of such Gurvaaks. Few unsavoury experiences that we hear about occur because in reality such people don’t touch the Paaras of Gurbani and they don’t do unbroken continuous kamaayee (service, earnings) of Gurbani. To please people, they pretend to do kamaayee in front of them and do it only for short period of time. They don’t do any kamaayee but only do “pupp pupp”. On such people, “Raam Raam sabh ko kahae, Kahiyae Raam na hoye” like Gurbani hukams fully apply. Their condition is such as is the condition of guru-less manmukhs who are devoid of the proper jugti (method) of Naam Abhyaas and who try to imitate Gurmukhs in doing Naam Abhyaas. In reality they don’t do abhyaas of Gurmat Naam and nor they have received Naam with proper method (vidhi), from the house of the Guru. They may continue to do “papp papp” and they may move their lips to show people but their doing Naam abhyaas in such fashion does not even get classified as Naam Abhyaas. Ones who write Gurbani with utmost respect will get delivered from this world ocean. The writers of Gurbani definitely get delivered in the end. Compositors, Machine-men, booksellers who disrespectfully print Gurbani’s pothis and sell them for money are very far from getting delivered from this world ocean. Ones who’s profession is to sell Gurbani for money and to do pakhand of doing sewa in this way, Paaras Kala of Gurbani can never work on them. By rubbing the fingers of hands on Gurbani words will not bring paaras kala and nor will paaras kala come by doing numerous mala of simran until and unless one gets Naam from Punj Pyaray with full Gurmat Maryada. And if after Naam attainment, the servant gets engaged in wrongful (anti-gurmat) activities, then too his or her simran of maala will not get successful. ***********Translation Ends*********** Daas, Kulbir Singh"

Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaa Khalsaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeh! Pyare jio, I just wanted to share this awesome article by Bhai Sahib translated by Bhai Sahib Kulbir Singhjee from Tapoban.org. I am sure that you will gain alot from the Gyan of Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singhjeee ... Vahegurooooooooooo "Below is a very humble translation of an article from Bhai Sahib's book Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamaayee. In this article Bhai Sahib has very forcefully and passionately written about the paaras Kala of Gurbani. Bhai Sahib writes that even if Paath is done for a worldly reason, it ultimately is good. Please read on and forgive me for any mistakes in the translation Bhai Sahib's work: Book: Gurmat Naam Abhyaas Kamaayee Article: Parmarath te Suyarath layee Naam Baani Page No: 113 Edition - 11th edition (year 1999) **********Translation Begins************** Those persons who do Naam jaap and recite Gurbani for a worldly cause, though they first engage in this divine service because of their personal and selfish aim, but due to the intensity of their worldly aim, they do heavy paath and simran. Since Naam and Gurbani are Paaras-roop, by touching this nectar-like substance (Gurbani / Naam), the paaras kala of Gurbani is invoked and because of this, the servant of Naam Gurbani starts feeling the Rass (actual physical taste) of it and the concentration (surtee) of the servant changes from the worldly aim to the spiritual aim of life. Then the abhyaas of Naam and recitation of Gurbani is done only for the purpose of getting Rass from it. This way, the spiritual touching of Nectar-like Paras-Substance (Naam Gurbani) by the surthee takes it to the pinnacles of spirituality. The continuous sewa of Gurbani, changes the intelligence of the servant from worldly focus to the spiritual focus because in reality whole of Gurbani’s aim or purpose is to bring it’s servants to the spiritual heights. The divine service of Gurbani and Naam done for the high purpose of spiritual attainment, automatically fulfills the worldly needs of the servant. Up until the state of Naam-Rassak-Bairaagi (the ultimate Naam Avastha) there is always the peril or danger of getting embroiled in the Ridhi-Sidhi (psychic powers) powers but the truthful seekers and real-lovers of spirituality don’t get stuck in Ridhis Sidhis and they consider this kind of stuff as bonds of attachment. The intensive sewa of Gurbani enables one to realise that Ridhis Sidhis are just bonds of attachment and this is why they don’t get stuck in it. On top of this realization the sewa of Gurbani and the kamaayee of Naam brings such Anand (bliss) to the servant that he or she totally makes an about-turn from Ridhi Sidhi. So much so that they don’t even realize how much ridhi sidhi they have. They are totally engaged in the anand of Naam / Gurbani. “Apne lobh ko keeno meeth” ( I have made God my friend for my selfish needs) like pankitis (lines) are nothing but the truth and there is no doubt in the truthfulness of such Gurvaaks. Few unsavoury experiences that we hear about occur because in reality such people don’t touch the Paaras of Gurbani and they don’t do unbroken continuous kamaayee (service, earnings) of Gurbani. To please people, they pretend to do kamaayee in front of them and do it only for short period of time. They don’t do any kamaayee but only do “pupp pupp”. On such people, “Raam Raam sabh ko kahae, Kahiyae Raam na hoye” like Gurbani hukams fully apply. Their condition is such as is the condition of guru-less manmukhs who are devoid of the proper jugti (method) of Naam Abhyaas and who try to imitate Gurmukhs in doing Naam Abhyaas. In reality they don’t do abhyaas of Gurmat Naam and nor they have received Naam with proper method (vidhi), from the house of the Guru. They may continue to do “papp papp” and they may move their lips to show people but their doing Naam abhyaas in such fashion does not even get classified as Naam Abhyaas. Ones who write Gurbani with utmost respect will get delivered from this world ocean. The writers of Gurbani definitely get delivered in the end. Compositors, Machine-men, booksellers who disrespectfully print Gurbani’s pothis and sell them for money are very far from getting delivered from this world ocean. Ones who’s profession is to sell Gurbani for money and to do pakhand of doing sewa in this way, Paaras Kala of Gurbani can never work on them. By rubbing the fingers of hands on Gurbani words will not bring paaras kala and nor will paaras kala come by doing numerous mala of simran until and unless one gets Naam from Punj Pyaray with full Gurmat Maryada. And if after Naam attainment, the servant gets engaged in wrongful (anti-gurmat) activities, then too his or her simran of maala will not get successful. ***********Translation Ends*********** Daas, Kulbir Singh"

Well said K S1ngh

Wot Singh and Kaur Woooooooooooooooooooooooooo

No! I am calling the GOI/Gandhi/Manmohan Singh chors

I LOVE IT TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Yea, he used to star in those dodgy punjabi movies back in the 70s/80s and early 90s. I think he is Punjabi, dont know about being Sikh. His first film was in 1946 Shahar Se Door and has continued actng till this very day. Filmography http://www.indiafm.com/celebrities/filmography/10659/

wat?????????????????????????????????????? this is very bad are u amritdharee (i hope not ) 119073[/snapback] Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaaa Khalsaaaah, Vaheguroooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh! What the eck! I think he is pulling our legs. If not , the only drug you should be intaking is Naam and drinking amrit. A Gursikh cannot live without naam as a drug addict cannot live with out drugs. As stated by Guru Sahibs states in Ang 668 : Jio bin amalai amalee mar jaaee hai thio har bin ham mar jaathee || rehaao || Like the addict who dies without his drug, I die without the Lord. ||Pause|| You better wake up man, before its too late or the dream will overtake.

Thats just beautiful what you have written, Bhen Shantijee :'( Dhan Dhan Sri Satguru Granth Sahibjeee Sab Te Vada Satgur Nanak Jin Kal Rakhi Meri The Greatest of all is the True Guru Nanak, who saved by honour in this age of darkness.

Vahegurooo Jee Kaaa Khalsaaah, Vahegurooo Jee Kee Fateeeeeh! Eck! 21 years ago! Rajiv [killed by Suicide Bomber "Hindu" woman] Gandhi, promised a payout of £13 million I have a news clipping somewhere. TWENTY ONE YEARS!!! Lets add INTEREST onto that AMOUNT over theTIME PERIOD from '84 to NOW ... thats what they should be getting. Saal-aaaa Chor!!!

Vahegurooooo Thanks from me tooo :wub:

Vahegurooo Jee Kaaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh! I am soooooo chuffed for you. :wub: We must remember it is ONLY through Guru Sahibs Kirpa that we are getting the greatest gift that is Sikhi and only a few are blessed to receive it. It makes soooo emotional that when I hear a Bhenjee or Bhaijee that finds the true diamond within themselves :wub: and I am greatly thankful to Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahibjee too hear it

Vahegurooo Jeee Kaaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jee Kee Fateeeeeh! Bibijee, Thank you for your question. Keep your eyes peeled on www.khalsacamp.com. Details with regards to updates will be available on there shortly. Currently we are very busy in producing the images i.e. correcting the colour defination to make it more vibrant. The DVDs will be available shortly keep your eyes on this. The Keertan will be available within the boxset which you will be able to purchase online. I have seen the sample DVDs and they are excellent :TH: . Vahegurooo Jeee Kaaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jee Kee Fateeeeeh!

Taksal against kirtan by women in Golden Temple Amritsar, August 17 The Damdami Taksal, yesterday outrightly rejected the proposal for allowing the baptised women to perform “kirtan” inside the Harmandir Sahib, the sanctum sanctorum of Golden Temple. The Damdami Taksal’s resolve to oppose this move was also supported by the Sant Samaj, a conglomerate of Sikh preachers headed by Baba Sarbjot Singh Bedi, at a function here on the occasion of the death anniversary of Sant Kartar Singh Bhindrawale. It may be recalled that the SGPC had last week taken the decision to allow women to perform “kirtan” inside the Harmandir Sahib. The decision had been taken at a meeting of the SGPC’s Religious Advisory Board. It was observed at the board’s meeting that the Akal Takht would have a final verdict on the proposal of allowing “amritdhari” (baptised) Sikh women to perform “kirtan” inside the Harmandir Sahib. At yesterday’s convention at the Damdami Taksal headquarters at Chowk Mehta near here, four granthis of the SGPC, Jaswant Singh, Mal Singh, Jatinder Singh and Jagtar Singh, also gave their support to the Damdami Taksal’s viewpoint against the women’s performance of “kirtan” in the Harmandir Sahib. The Akal Takht Jathedar, Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti, is scheduled to summon a meeting of the Singh Sahibs and after detailed discussions the final decision on the “kirtan” would be pronounced which would be binding on the Sikh community. The Dharam Prachar Committee, while taking the decision, had announced that the baptised Sikh women who fulfilled a set “code of conduct” could approach the SGPC authorities to perform “kirtan sewa” at the Harmandir Sahib. — UNI

Vahegurooo Jee Kaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jee Keee Fateeeeh! Great post HARJAGJEET!!! Remember this in ANG 728, Guru Sahib states "ham nehee cha(n)gae buraa nehee koe ||" meaning "I am not good; no-one is bad"

Vahegurooo Jeee Kaaaa Khalsaaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh, Yep, captured that shabad on me camcorder .... Patience is a virtue and best come to those who wait..... All this is coming your way.... in due time :e: Dont be shy add your views and opinions :T: ... I will see what I can do... I need to confirmation from the Khalsa Executives to do so. Vahegurooo Jeee Kaaaa Khalsaaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh.

Vahegurooo Jee Kaaa Khalsaaaaah, Vahegurooo Jee Keee Fateeeeh! I have two of em and I will be putting em on a DVD set.... Me too and the sangat. Vahegurooo Jee Kaaa Khalsaaaaah, Vahegurooo Jee Keee Fateeeeh!

Vahegurooo Jee Kaaa Khalsaaaaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh! Thank you NaamRas and All-Info for your valid points these have been noted and will be passed onto the Khalsa (Camp) Exectutives. Please can we have some-more inputs from others that those of you that attended, your experiences, opinions, negatives, positives wot ever... please keep updating. Baldeep Singh. Vahegurooo Jeeeee Kaaaa Khalsaaaah, vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeeh!

Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeeeh! Thank you your opinion, its valued. Question? : I want to ask, whilst present during the camp did anyone promote any Jathabandeee, whether it Taksalis, Nanaksar, AKJ, etc etc ? If anyone wanted to stand up and had something to say, they were more than welcome to do so. In my opinion there are two things : Guru Granth, Guru Panth and not Guru Jathebandees. :nihungsmile: Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeeeh!

Vahegurooo Jeee Kaaa Khalsaaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh! This would be excellent but everyone has their own projects and sewa they want to get perform. If its not Khalsa Camp or Sikhi Camp or Gurmat Camp or BOSS Camp, etc etc then their are gonna be many more you must choose which one you want to attend, its dependant upon individuals situtatiions for example some couldnt attend KC because they're parents didnt allow them... Therefore each one is catered for due to a persons/groups circumstances. EKTA is when we have our Guru Granth, Guru Panth and [sadh Sangat] together, doesnt matter where it is as long as it is there. Please this thread is for feedbacks and experiences of the Sangat that attended.

Vaheguroooooooo Jeeee Keeee Khalsaaaaah, Vaheguroooo Jeee Keeee Fateeeeeeh! As ISingh stated the dvds will be available to be purchased through the website www.khalsacamp.com. We have a team working [Khalsa Associates - KA] on creating the set of DVDs... I can guarantee that from what you will receive.. it will extremely priceless.... I WILL provide full details by the end of September.... therefore keep rubbing your hands together. :nihungsmile: Just wait and see :TH: Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeeh!

Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh! I am sorry too hear that you was not happy with the accomodation and thank you for your feedback... but from what I am aware of is that everyone got the same type of accomodation ... I appreciate that the bed linen may have smelt but theres away around it .. its called fabreeze or air freshener or even opening a window once in a while [bhai Sahib its a simple word called initiative]. To everyone thanks for your responses, behntee to anyone reading these testimonies, please please those who attended give your feedbacks... Those who didnt attend will have the opportunity of getting DVDs as the money received will go towards the Khalsa Camp [P.S. Those of you attended I was the one who was camcordering the talks and Keertan Darbars :e: ]... Please note those who want these DVDs PLEASE PLEASE do not duplicate them and pass them onto your relatives and friends b'cos KC is a not profitting organisation without the money that we dont get, we will not be able to hold events next year [in this way you are stopping sikhs from going onto the gurooos path]... so please a PLEA buy the DVDs and promote others to buy them as well :wub: . The lectures were out of this world: God and Naam : Bhai Sahib Dr Dupinder Singhjee [uK] The Purpose of Life : Bhai Balpreet Singhjee [Tapoban.org] Karma Philosphy : Bhai Kulbir Singhjeee [Tapoban.org] Honoury Guest : Bhai Gurmustuk Singhjeeee [sikhnet] The relationship with our Guru : Bhai Baba Jasbir Singhjeee [Tapoban.org] :nihungsmile: 1978-1984 : Bhai Pala Singhjeee [New York] Maya Philosophy : Bhai Kulbir Singhjeee [Tapoban.org] The 5 Thieves : Bhai Sahib Bhai Surjit Singhjeee [india] The Uniqueness of Sikhi : Bhai Sahib Dr. Dupinder Singhjee [uK] :wub: :awesome In all my years that I have been in Sikhi I have never heard such thought provoking, inspiring and well presented talks and they have all presented facts and references with the aid of Gurbani. Vaheguroooo Jeee Kaaaa Khalsaaaah, Vahegurooo Jeee Keee Fateeeeeh! :awesome