K. SINGH DEEP

My dear, Iam not against a person specific but against against "DERAVAD" and self made "SANTVAD" AS IS TOLD BY DASMESH PATSHAH JI:- "Gohr ,MARHI MATHH bhool na maane" And Dearaas are Modern Mathh now a days but many ( not all ) of so called SANTS befool the public and under the banner of name of past Legend Gursikhs and under CHHATTAR CHHYAA of SRI GRU GRANTHH SAHEB JI they are busy in collecting money and piling up thier Bank balances, enjoying AC residences,AC luxury cars, and doing no KIRAT where as GURU NANAK DEV JI told :- KIRAT KARO VAND CHHAKO NAAM JAPO The first updesh i.e. KIRAT KARO has been left by most of the the so called Sants saying that we do the kirat of Naam, where as Naam has been told at last and after "KIRAT KARO " and "VAND CHHAKO" but our so called Sants collect (some times foricibly also) money from their followers and pile up their Bank balances and enjoy physical life. Only a few follow the second and third updesh i.e." Vand chhako" and "Naam Japo". And great ones who follwo all the three things can be counted on fingers as Gurbani tells "Hen VIRLE naahi ghane phail phakkarh sansar" where as money collecters , on whom people faith blindly, are countless . We ,instead of encouraging them ,should expose them by awkening ourselves and public in general.And that is the spirit behind this ongoing debate. Bhul chuk khima , WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

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I am not concerned with arthh done by any body, whosoever he may be, but concerned with :- "ਮੁਖ ਤੇ ਪੜਤਾ ਟੀਕਾ ਸਹਿਤ ॥ Mukh tae parrataa tteekaa sehit || You read the scriptures, and the commentaries, ਹਿਰਦੈ ਰਾਮੁ ਨਹੀ ਪੂਰਨ ਰਹਤ ॥ Hiradai raam nehee pooran rehat || but the Perfect Lord does not dwell in your heart. ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਕਰੇ ਕਰਿ ਲੋਕ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਵੈ ॥ Oupadaes karae kar lok drirraavai || You preach to others to have faith, ਅਪਨਾ ਕਹਿਆ ਆਪਿ ਨ ਕਮਾਵੈ ॥੧॥ Apanaa kehiaa aape na kamaavai ||1|| but you do not practice what you preach. ||1|| But this never means that I oppose to kathha being done by the ever great Legend Gursikhs,mentioned here above . Though this shabad is addressed to Pandit who misinterprets the Vedas in his own way for his personal benifit, but it equaly implies on us the so called Sikhs like me (also) who interpret-ate or misinterpret-ate Gurbani in thier own way only in order to "apna ullu sidha karo." Including myself , everybody needs to think deeply that in which direction we are going instead of following our true "Guru SRI GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI". I dont claim that I am 100% correct, rather I may not be even 1% correct, but the way we are abusing each other is definitely not correct. For us Gurbani tells:- "Hoe ikater milohu mere bhaaee, Dubidha duur karoho liv laae. Har naame ke hovo jorhi ,Gurmukh bethho safa vichhae." But we are compelling each other to go to any extent to protect our false ego, and that too behind the shelter of names of Great Gursikhs. If we do not under stand the spirit and idea expressed by any of our brother,it never means that we should start using irritative language or writing something objectionable which may not be in accordance with the SIKH principles. Bhul chuk khima Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

ਬੰਗ ਕੇ ਬੰਗਾਲੀ ਫਿਰਹੰਗ ਕੇ ਫਿਰੰਗਾਵਾਲੀ ਦਿਲੀ ਕੇ ਦਿਲਵਾਲੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਆਗਿਆ ਮੈ ਚਲਤ ਹੈਂ ॥ Bang ke Bangadloo Phirhang ke Phirangadvaaloo Diloo ke Dilvaaloo teroo aagiaa mai chalet hain|| The Bengalis of Bengal, the Phirangis of Phirangistan and Dilwalis of Delhi are the followers of Thy Command. ਰੋਹ ਕੇ ਰੁਹੇਲੇ ਮਾਘ ਦੇਸ ਕੇ ਮਘੇਲੇ ਬੀਰ ਬੰਗ ਸੀ ਬੁੰਦੇਲੇ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਜ ਕੋ ਮਲਤ ਹੈਂ ॥ Roh ke ruhele Maagh des ke Maghele boor Bang soo Buaadele paap punj ko malat hain|| The Rohelas of Rohu mountain, the Maghelas of Magadha, the heroic Bangasis of Bangas and the Bundhelas of Bundhelkhand destroy their sins in Thy devotion. ਗੋਖਾ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਵੈ ਚੀਨ ਮਚੀਨ ਕੇ ਸੀਸ ਨਯਾਵੈ ਤਿੱਬਤੀ ਧਿਆਇ ਦੇਖ ਦੇਹ ਕੋ ਦਲਤ ਹੈਂ ॥ Gokhaa gun gadvai Choon Machoon ke soos nyaavai Tibbati dhiaae dokh deh ko dalat hain|| Gorkhas sing Thy Praises, the residents of China and Manchuria bow their heads before Thee and the Tibetans destroy the sufferings of their bodies by remembering Thee. ( Akaal Ustat ) ਜਿਨੈ ਤੋਹਿ ਧਿਆਇਓ ਤਿਨੈ ਪੂਰਨ ਪ੍ਰਤਾਪ ਪਾਇਓ ਸਰਬ ਧਨ ਧਾਮ ਫਲ ਫੂਲ ਮੋਂ ਫਲਤ ਹੈਂ ॥ 3 || 255|| Jinai toh(i)dhiaaio tinai pooran prataap paaio sarab dhan dhaam phal phool son phalat hain||3||255|| Those who meditated on Thee, they obtained perfect Glory, they obtained perfect Glory, they prosper greatly with wealth, fruit and flowers in their homes.3.255.

Read very carefully:- "Sant anantehe anter naahi." and "Parbraham Gur naahi bheo." By comparing both the Tuks, it is clear that there is no difference between GOD and GURU( Sant word used as synonym of Guru) I do not understand why this ample truth is not digestable to some of the ............. Waheguru ji ka Kalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

You are a Namdhari /Kooka and that is why you are questioning the Shabad Guru . Yuo are follower of a Dehdhari guru and will always remain misinterpreting Gurbani in your own way and Guru Nanak Dev ji has told us for people like this :- " Jiseh bhulavan vaatarhi tisehe dikhave kaun." than who are we to guide people like you to stop DEHDHARI guru pooja and follow Shabad Guru only. I can only say that Guru Amar Dass ji told:- "Vaho vahu BAANI Nirankaar hae Tis jevad avare na koe." And Guru RAM DAS JI also told :- " BAANI GURU GURU HAE BAANI VICH BAANI AMRIT SAARE." And Guru Arjan Dev ji also told :- "Dhur ki Baani aaee ,Tin sagli chint mitaaee." and "Ehu Baani jo jeeahu jaane ,Tis antare rave har nama " And in Sarab Loh Granth Guru Gobind Singh ji mentions:- "Aapan pou gur khalse deena,Duteea roop Satguruu Granthha. Bolan satguru sabad sanbhakhan, Naam gubind keertan samthaa. Gunanuvaad pun sifate salahan, Outhhat bethhat sen karanthha. Pavan panthh Khalsa pragtyo, Char baran asram subh panthha. 370. En ko daras Satgur ko darsan Bolan Guruu Sabad Gur Granthha. Dwadas roop satgur ae kaheeat, Dwadas bhan pragat har santa. Partakh kalaa parbraham dhani chhe, Granthh Panthh Khalsa vartanta. Dass Gobind Fateh Satgur ki Khalsa Granthh GUR roop When badantaa. 371. Read the blue colour lines carefully and see that Guru Gobind Singh ji says that when you want to see (Darshan of )Satguru Darshan of Khalsa is SATGUR DARSHAN and if you want to listen to SATGUR , than listen to Bachan of Guru GRANTH Sahib JI. What else proof a submissive Sikh needs to see or know. Bhul chuk khima Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

There is a book named "REHATNAME" edited by "Prof. Pyara Singh Padam" where in 14 Rehatname including the one of Bhaee Chaupa Singh have been given .The book is being published by Singh Bros. Amritsar Saheb since 1974. Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

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"AGAHAN KOO TRANGH, PICHACHHAHAN FER NA MUHDARHA." (See and think forthe fuuture and donotsee your past) and " Bhullan ander sabh ko ,abhull Guru Kartaar." (Every body in this world is made to commit some mistake except Satguru and Akaal Purakh e.i. Kartaar.) AND "Bhullyan bhee aape samjhaayasee" (Waheguru / Staguru himself will guide the cofused ones) Tusi samajh chukke ho,Satguru agge Punj Pyaryan kol pesh ho ke bhull bakhsha sakde ho. Bhul chuk khima , WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Under head SODAR there are following shabads:- (i)Sodar Raag Asaa mehla pehla (ii)Assa Mehla pehla (sun vaddaa aakhai sabh koe) (iii)Assa Mehla pehla(aakhaa jeevaa visarai mar jaao ) (iv)Raag Goojaree mehla choutha(har kae jan sathigur sathapurakhaa bino karo gur paas) (v)Raag Goojaree mehla punjva (kaahae rae man chithavehi oudham jaa aahar har jeeo pariaa) (vi) Raag Aasaa, Mehla chautha ,So Purakh (vii)Aasaa, Mehla chautha (toon karathaa sachiaar maiddaa saaee) (viii)Assa Mehla pehla (titu saravararrai bheelae nivaasaa paanee paavak tinehe keeaa) (ix)Assa Mehla punjva(bhaee paraapat maanukh daehureeaa} and so is Sohela. And now you are free to qute sakhis told by "Sants "AND Mahapuarakhs" to proove that why there are some minor changes wich have been, and why have been done by Guru sahib ji. I just know that we need no justification on the things done by Guru Sahib ji and whatever our GURUS have done that has been done within the holy HUKAM of AKAAL PURAKH. GURBANI is Dhur ki Bani ; Khasam ki Bani and Nirankaar Saroop BUT moorakhs like me and similars think that it is literature :- " Log jaane ehu geet hae ,Eh tao Braham beechar." and "JESI ME AAVE KHASAM KI BAANI TESRA KARI BEAAN VE LAALO" AND "Vaho vaho Bani Nirankar hae , Tis jevad avar na koe." O.k. I have no problem . I will just keep on reciting and enjoying the Gurbani (script written by my FIFTH AND DASAM LORD) which is GURU GRANTH Sahib JI. I need not to know why there are some minor changes in the similar Shabads which appears at 2 or 3 different places but the fact is that the same is done by Guru Saheb themselves .I need to know only:- " Gurbaani gaavaho bhaaee, Ohu safal sada sukhdaaee." and Gaviye suniye munn rakhiehe bhao, dukh par har sukh ghar le jae." and "Ayohu sunan pana kau baani," and thats all I will keep on reading and listening Gurbani and try to understand it as far as I can by the grace and blessings of my lord Dhan Guru Granth Saheb ji. I beg your pardon with folded hands if I have said some thing wrong and against the teachings of my Lord. Wahegru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

ਵਡਹੰਸੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ Waddehans mehala 5 || ਤੂ ਬੇਅੰਤੁ ਕੋ ਵਿਰਲਾ ਜਾਣੈ ॥ Tuu baeant ko virala janai || You are infinite - only a few know this. ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਕੋ ਸਬਦਿ ਪਛਾਣੈ ॥੧॥ Gur prasad ko sabad pachhanai ||1|| By Guru's Grace, some come to understand You through the Word of the Shabad. ||1|| ਸੇਵਕ ਕੀ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਪਿਆਰੇ ॥ Saevak kee aradas piarae || Your servant offers this prayer, O Beloved: ਜਪਿ ਜੀਵਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਚਰਣ ਤੁਮਾਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Jap jeeva prabh charan tumarae ||1|| rehao || I live by meditating on Your Feet, God. ||1||Pause|| ਦਇਆਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਦਾਤੇ ॥ Daeial purakh maerae prabh datae || O my Merciful and Almighty God, O Great Giver, ਜਿਸਹਿ ਜਨਾਵਹੁ ਤਿਨਹਿ ਤੁਮ ਜਾਤੇ ॥੨॥ Jisehe jananahu tinhe tum jaate He alone knows You, whom You so bless. ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਜਾਈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ॥ Sada sada jaee baliharee || Forever and ever, I am a sacrifice to You. ਇਤ ਉਤ ਦੇਖਉ ਓਟ ਤੁਮਾਰੀ ॥੩॥ eit out dekhaou outt tumaree ||3|| Here and hereafter, I seek Your Protection. ||3|| ਮੋਹਿ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਗੁਣੁ ਕਿਛੂ ਨ ਜਾਤਾ ॥ Mohe niragun gun kichhoo n jata || I am without virtue; I know none of Your Glorious Virtues. ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਧੂ ਦੇਖਿ ਮਨੁ ਰਾਤਾ ॥੪॥੩॥ Naanak sadhhoo daekh man rata ||4||3|| O Nanak, seeing the Holy Saint, my mind is imbued with You. ||4||3||

ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਿਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਘਰੁ ੪ Rag dhhanasiree mehala 3 ghar 4 ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ Ek oankar satigur prasad ਹਮ ਭੀਖਕ ਭੇਖਾਰੀ ਤੇਰੇ ਤੂ ਨਿਜ ਪਤਿ ਹੈ ਦਾਤਾ ॥ Ham bheekhak bhaekharee taerae tuu nij patte hai data || I am just a poor beggar of Yours; You are Your Own Lord Master, You are the Great Giver. ਹੋਹੁ ਦੈਆਲ ਨਾਮੁ ਦੇਹੁ ਮੰਗਤ ਜਨ ਕੰਉ ਸਦਾ ਰਹਉ ਰੰਗਿ ਰਾਤਾ ॥੧॥ Hohu deiaal nam daehu mangat jan kano sada reho rang rata ||1|| Be Merciful, and bless me, a humble beggar, with Your Name, so that I may forever remain imbued with Your Love. ||1|| ਹੰਉ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੈ ਜਾਉ ਸਾਚੇ ਤੇਰੇ ਨਾਮ ਵਿਟਹੁ ॥ Haon baliharai jao sachae taerae nam vittahu || I am a sacrifice to Your Name, O True Lord. ਕਰਣ ਕਾਰਣ ਸਭਨਾ ਕਾ ਏਕੋ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ਕੋਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Karan karan sabhana ka eaeko avar n dooja koee ||1|| rehao || The One Lord is the Cause of causes; there is no other at all. ||1||Pause|| ਬਹੁਤੇ ਫੇਰ ਪਏ ਕਿਰਪਨ ਕਉ ਅਬ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕੀਜੈ ॥ Bahutae faer peae kirapan ko ab kichhu kirapa keejai || I was wretched; I wandered through so many cycles of reincarnation. Now, please bless some of Grace. ਹੋਹੁ ਦਇਆਲ ਦਰਸਨੁ ਦੇਹੁ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਐਸੀ ਬਖਸ ਕਰੀਜੈ ॥੨॥ Hohu daeial darasan daehu apuna aisee bakhas kareejai ||2|| Be merciful, and grant me the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan; please grant me such a gift. ||2|| ਭਨਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਭਰਮ ਪਟ ਖੂਲ੍ੇ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ Bhanath naanak bharam patt khoolhae gur parasadee jania || Prays Nanak, the shutters of doubt have been opened wide; by Guru's Grace, I have come to know the Lord. ਸਾਚੀ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੀ ਹੈ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਿਉ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ ॥੩॥੧॥੯॥ Sachee liv lagee hai bheetar sategur sio man mania ||3||1||9|| I am filled to overflowing with true love; my mind is pleased and appeased by the True Guru. ||3||1||9||

Very good my dear son,Waheguru charhdi Kalaa bakhshan, SIKHI da dulaar, Naam da Ahaar, Shabad naal pyaar, Gurbaani da satkaar,Guru granth Saheb da dulaar atte Sangat da vihaar aap ji nu hamesha hamesha milda rahe. Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

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WAHEGURU, WAHEGURU, WAHEGURU, WAHEGURU, WAHEGURU, WAHEGURU ,WAHEGURU, WAHEGURU ਕੀਆ ਖੇਲੁ ਬਡ ਮੇਲੁ ਤਮਾਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਰੀ ਸਭ ਰਚਨਾ ॥ Keeaa khael badd mael tamaasaa vaahiguroo taeree sabh rachanaa || You have formed and created this play, this great game. O Waahay Guru, this is all You, forever. ਤੂ ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਗਗਨਿ ਪਯਾਲਿ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹ੍ਯ੍ਯਾ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਤੇ ਮੀਠੇ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਬਚਨਾ ॥ Tuu jal thhal gagan payaal poor rehyaa anmrit tae meethae jaa kae bachanaa || You are pervading and permeating the water, land, skies and nether regions; Your Words are sweeter than Ambrosial Nectar. ਮਾਨਹਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾਦਿਕ ਰੁਦ੍ਰਾਦਿਕ ਕਾਲ ਕਾ ਕਾਲੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨ ਜਚਨਾ ॥ Maanehi brehamaadik rudraadik kaal kaa kaal niranjan jachanaa || Brahmas and Shivas respect and obey You. O Death of death, Formless Lord, I beg of You. ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਪਰਮਾਰਥੁ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਸੇਤੀ ਮਨੁ ਖਚਨਾ ॥ gur prasaadh paaeeai paramaarathh sathasangath saethee man khachanaa || By Guru's Grace, the greatest thing is obtained, and the mind is involved with the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation. ਕੀਆ ਖੇਲੁ ਬਡ ਮੇਲੁ ਤਮਾਸਾ ਵਾਹਗੁਰੂ ਤੇਰੀ ਸਭ ਰਚਨਾ ॥੩॥੧੩॥੪੨॥ Keeaa khael badd mael tamaasaa vaahaguroo taeree sabh rachanaa ||3||13||42|| You have formed and created this play, this great game. O Waahay Guru, this is all Your making. ||3||13||42|| (At ang 1403-1404 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji )

Thank you very much for declaring ,"You are Totally confused about Gurbani, either you do it Intentionally or do not understand the Meaning of Gurbani". I have no doubt and fully agree that you have understood Gurbani 100% and you and your other friends supporting you are fully competent enough to declare that a person specific is totally confused about Gurbani, either does it Intentionally or do not understand the Meaning of Gurbani.( may he be of your fathers age and doing Dharam parchar ,and had been participating in Seva of Punj Pyare for Amrit Sanchaar for the years more than that of your age). Congrats my dear child for achieivingthis stage and I bow before you, and your such a great knowledge and your vocabulary Which is not less than a "SANT". WAHEGURU JI KA kHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Veer/phen ji, what would the arth your school or thought do for these Gurbani pangtis? ਸੰਤਕੀਸੇਵਾਨਾਮੁਧਿਆਈਐ ॥ and ਹਰਿਕੀਟਹਲਕਮਾਵਣੀਜਪੀਐਪ੍ਰਭਕਾਨਾਮੁ ॥ how about the importance of Guru here? ਕਬੀਰਸੇਵਾਕਉਦੁਇਭਲੇਏਕੁਸੰਤੁਇਕੁਰਾਮੁ ॥ ਰਾਮੁਜੁਦਾਤਾਮੁਕਤਿਕੋਸੰਤੁਜਪਾਵੈਨਾਮੁ ॥੧੬੪॥ since, you insist "SANT" word is only and only for mahapursh. Please go through this Shabad ਗੂਜਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ॥ Goojaree mehalaa 3 || ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਤੁਮ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਹੁ ਦੂਜੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰਹੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ਜੀ ॥ Har kee tum saevaa karahu doojee saevaa karahu na koe jee || Serve the Lord; do not serve anyone else. ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਤੇ ਮਨਹੁ ਚਿੰਦਿਆ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਦੂਜੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਾਇ ਜੀ ॥੧॥ Har kee saevaa te manahu chindhiaa fal paaeeai doojee saevaa janam birathhaa jaae jee ||1|| Serving the Lord, you shall obtain the fruits of your heart's desires; serving another, your life shall pass away in vain. ||1|| ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰੀ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਰੀਤਿ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰੀ ਕਥਾ ਕਹਾਨੀ ਜੀ ॥ Har maeree preet reet hai har maeree har maeree kathhaa kehaanee jee || The Lord is my Love, the Lord is my way of life, the Lord is my speech and conversation. ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨੁ ਭੀਜੈ ਏਹਾ ਸੇਵ ਬਨੀ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Gur prasaade maeraa manu bheejai eaehaa saev banee jeeo ||1|| rehaao || By Guru's Grace, my mind is saturated with the Lord's Love; this is what makes up my service. ||1||Pause|| ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਬੰਧਪੁ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਭਾਈ ॥ Har maeraa simrite har maeraa saasatar har maeraa bandhhap har maeraa bhaaee || The Lord is my Simritees, the Lord is my Shaastras; the Lord is my relative and the Lord is my brother. ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਮੈ ਭੂਖ ਲਾਗੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਮਨੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤੈ ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਾਕੁ ਅੰਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਸਖਾਈ ॥੨॥ Har kee mai bhookh laagai har naam maeraa man tripatai har maeraa saak ante hoe sakhaaee ||2|| I am hungry for the Lord; my mind is satisfied with the Name of the Lord. The Lord is my relation, my helper in the end. ||2|| ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਹੋਰ ਰਾਸਿ ਕੂੜੀ ਹੈ ਚਲਦਿਆ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥ Har bin hor raas koorree hai chaladiaa naal na jaaee || Without the Lord, other assets are false. They do not go with the mortal when he departs. ਹਰਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਧਨੁ ਮੇਰੈ ਸਾਥਿ ਚਾਲੈ ਜਹਾ ਹਉ ਜਾਉ ਤਹ ਜਾਈ ॥੩॥ Har maeraa dhhan maerai saathh chaalai jehaa ho jaao teh jaaee ||3|| The Lord is my wealth, which shall go with me; wherever I go, it will go. ||3|| ਸੋ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਝੂਠੇ ਲਾਗੈ ਝੂਠੇ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਈ ॥ So jhoothaa jo jhoothae laagai jhoothae karam kamaaee || One who is attached to falsehood is false; false are the deeds he does. ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਭਾਣਾ ਹੋਆ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੪॥੨॥੪॥ Kehai naanak har kaa bhaanaa hoaa kehanaa kachhoo na jaaee ||4||2||4|| Says Nanak, everything happens according to the Will of the Lord; no one has any say in this at all. ||4||2||4|| Here Gurbani says "Har kee tum saevaa karahu doojee saevaa karahu na koe jee" and Gurbani also tells us "GUR PARMESHAR EKO JAAN" means we should do seva ofeither Guru Saheb or HAR(Akaal Purakh or Parmeshar or God whatever we may call) and therefore when Guru Saheb tell us"ਸੰਤਕੀਸੇਵਾਨਾਮੁਧਿਆਈਐ " or "ਕਬੀਰਸੇਵਾਕਉਦੁਇਭਲੇਏਕੁਸੰਤੁਇਕੁਰਾਮੁ ॥ ਰਾਮੁਜੁਦਾਤਾਮੁਕਤਿਕੋਸੰਤੁਜਪਾਵੈਨਾਮੁ ॥" we must under stand that Guru Saheb is asking for seva of SANT (sATGURU ) and not any other human being.Where ever Guru ji wanted to say about Gursikhs or Great Sikhs , it is mentioned as "sevak" or "Dass" as:- "ਪਾਣੀ ਪਖਾ ਪੀਸੁ ਦਾਸ ਕੈ ਤਬ ਹੋਹਿ ਨਿਹਾਲੁ ॥" Panee pakha pees dass kai tab hohe nihalu || Carry water for the Lord's slave, wave the fan over him, and grind his corn; then, you shall be happy. and "ਟਹਲ ਕਰਉ ਤੇਰੇ ਦਾਸ ਕੀ ਪਗ ਝਾਰਉ ਬਾਲ ॥ " Tehal karo taerae daas kee pag jharo bal || I perform service for Your slave, O Lord, and wipe his feet with my hair. and ਗੁਰਸਿਖੀ ਭਾਣਾ ਮੰਨਿਆ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੂਰਾ ਪਾਰਿ ਲੰਘਾਇ ॥ gurasikhee bhaanaa manniaa gur pooraa paar langhaae || The Sikhs of the Guru accept and obey the Lord's Will; the Perfect Guru carries them across. ਗੁਰਸਿਖਾਂ ਕੀ ਹਰਿ ਧੂੜਿ ਦੇਹਿ ਹਮ ਪਾਪੀ ਭੀ ਗਤਿ ਪਾਂਹਿ ॥ gurasikhaan kee har dhhoorr dhaehi ham paapee bhee gath paanhi || O Lord, please bless me with the dust of the feet of the Guru's Sikhs. I am a sinner - please save me. and ਸੇਵਕ ਕੀ ਓੜਕਿ ਨਿਬਹੀ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ॥ saevak kee ourrak nibehee preeth || The love which the Lord's servant feels for the Lord lasts forever. ਜੀਵਤ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸੇਵਿਓ ਅਪਨਾ ਚਲਤੇ ਰਾਖਿਓ ਚੀਤਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ jeevath sahib saeviou apana chalathae rakhiou cheetIn my life, I served my Lord and Master, and as I depart, I keep Him enshrined in my consciousness. When ever Gurbani says to do seva of SANT, Iit means seva of SATGURU or satguru ki sadh sangat or group of sikhs and not any Individual as Singular Person. Bhul chuk khima Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Guru Granth Saheb also tells us:- "Tera jan ek aadh koee" and every one can not be called JAN if GURUBANI says EK AADH KOEE

Go to searchgurbani.com ; than click Dasamgranth(the sight shows AMRIT KIRTAN , GURU GRANTH SAHIB, DASAM GARANTH, and afew other links also); than clik on chapter index and than you can open any chapter viz. JAP SAHIB, AKAAL YATAT, CHANDI CHARITAR, BACHITTAER NATAK, GYAN PRABODH, CHOBIS AVTAAR, CHARITRO PAKHYAN OR ZAFARNAMA and all the Gurbani is available there in GURMUKHI with English script along with meanings in English. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Waheguru ji mehar karan taa ke asin Baaman vaad, Jatt vaad ,Bhapa vaad, .................te hor anek vaadan to uchche utthh ke SIKHI de raste utte chalan da jatan kar sakiye. Dhan guru Granth Sahib ji mehar karan sanu saryan nu apni sikhiya/Gurmat bakhshan ta ke asin Jaat paat to uuper utthh ke SIKHI nu samajh sakiye. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fareh

Shastr you are completely mistaken in your statement above. With the replies which have been posted it shows that very few people on this forum have even completed a sehj paath, since no-one has picked up this very simple point In gurbani at numerous places you get mool mantar from Ik Onkar to Gurparshad repeated with no changes at all. I would urge you all to read Gurbani instead of debating if Sri Chand quoted a salok in Sukhmani Sahib or not, since the answer to the debate is not going to change anything. If you believe he did good for you, if you believe he did not good for you too. mool mantar is up to gurparsad, and yet im the one thats mistaken huh? lol. can you plz show any any gurbani di pantki that is wirtten exactly the same in 2 differnt places? any pankti? and maha mantar does not count, thats mangal form of shabad, itswritten in gurbani hundreds of times, but where does a shabad pankti repeat it self anywhere in guru granth sahib ji? if it does repeat, there is a slight change, weather that be in a lagamatra, or 1 or 2 akhars. but can you plz show me which 2 panktis are wirtten twice in guru granth sahib ji exactly the same way. and yet ur the one whos completed a sehaj paath huh? lets see......... this thread as been killed. bhai sahib ji, you can create a new thread about gurbani pankti's repeating, and we will all post. and k singh deep sahib ji, you can create a new thread about there are no such thing as sants, and we will all post in the new thread. or we can keep this going through pm, cuz we have totally butchured this thread singho. this topic needs to get closed. In GURU GRANTH Sahib, after JAP (Japji sahib) the next bani comes SODAR and than comes Sohela. All the shabads of SODAR and SOHELA are repeated in the text of GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI. Please do sehaj pathh with a reading speed of not more than 12 ang an hour and than try to do arguements on the forum. Wahegguru bhala kare. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

1 Bihaagrhaa Guru Arjan Dev (at ang 547 of SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI ) ਸੋ ਦਿਨੁ ਸਫਲੁ ਗਣਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਮਿਲਾਇਆ ਰਾਮ ॥ so din safal ganiaa har prabhoo milaaeiaa raam || That day is judged to be fruitful, when I merged with my Lord. ਸਭਿ ਸੁਖ ਪਰਗਟਿਆ ਦੁਖ ਦੂਰਿ ਪਰਾਇਆ ਰਾਮ ॥ sabh sukh paragattiaa dhukh dhoor paraaeiaa raam || Total happiness was revealed, and pain was taken far away. ਸੁਖ ਸਹਜ ਅਨਦ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਸਦ ਹੀ ਗੁਨ ਗੁਪਾਲ ਨਿਤ ਗਾਈਐ ॥ sukh sehaj anadh binodh sadh hee gun gupaal nith gaaeeai || Peace, tranquility, joy and eternal happiness come from constantly singing the Glorious Praises of the Sustainer of the World. ਭਜੁ ਸਾਧਸੰਗੇ ਮਿਲੇ ਰੰਗੇ ਬਹੁੜਿ ਜੋਨਿ ਨ ਧਾਈਐ ॥ bhaj saadhhasangae milae rangae bahurr jon n dhhaaeeai || Joining the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, I lovingly remember the Lord; I shall not wander again in reincarnation. ਗਹਿ ਕੰਠਿ ਲਾਏ ਸਹਜਿ ਸੁਭਾਏ ਆਦਿ ਅੰਕੁਰੁ ਆਇਆ ॥ gehi kanth laaeae sehaj subhaaeae aadh ankur aaeiaa || He has naturally hugged me close in His Loving Embrace, and the seed of my primal destiny has sprouted. ਬਿਨਵੰਤ ਨਾਨਕ ਆਪਿ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਬਹੁੜਿ ਕਤਹੂ ਨ ਜਾਇਆ ॥੫॥੪॥੭॥ binavanth naanak aap miliaa bahurr kathehoo n jaaeiaa ||5||4||7|| Prays Nanak, He Himself has met me, and He shall never again leave me. ||5||4||7||

RAJA JANAK was not SATGURU ,but was Bhagat, as is told by bhai Gurdaas ji:- ਭਗਤੁ ਵਡਾ ਰਾਜਾ ਜਨਕੁ ਹੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਵਿਚਿ ਉਦਾਸੀ । Bhagatu vadaa raajaa janaku hai guramukhi maaiaa vichi udaasee| (Vaar 10, Pauri 5) King Janak was a great Bhagat who amidst maya remained indifferent to it. However I have not to do any debate with you because you are diversifying the theme of the topic by doing "anarthh" (wrong meaning) of the quotes and misinterpretating taking shelter of the Great legend Gursikhs name. Bhul chuk khima Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

And tell her that body is not the every thing for us our soul must be pious and definitely her soul is pious and she too is pious. Tell her that her soul is the part of AKAAL PURAKH ji and after demise of body her soul will emerge with Akaal Purakh. Tell her that she is the pious flower of LOTUS which may stand in mud but remains Lotus and no body calls it MUD LOTUS but is called LOTUS and only LOTUS. Tell her that she is daughter of GURU GOBIND SINGH JI and MATA SAHIB KAUR JI and daughter of Dashmeh Pita can never feel depression, inferiority or something like ill will, but should be brave enough to teach lesson to the cruel Papis. Tell her that Guru Saheb loves her and Khalsa PANTH also loves her. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Really so amazing. Keep on posting such lovingly and heart touching articles which spread Gursandesh Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh