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I think I accidently posted this under general AND this section. Oops :cool: @ Ranz Killa, thanks for the reply, although just wanted to clarify i got this msg in an email so it was written by my friend Sukh nidhaan veerji i didnt really understand your post or its relevance to the message above, pardon me, im slow Khalsa (ji) which poster is that? i'm clueless :umm: waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

Yes iron arm that's true, but i think the main focus of what the gursikh was saying is that our generation should do more bhagti because the gurmukhs of the older generations are passing on and the future lies in the youth. So the youth need to be strong and do more bhagti like old school singhs probably did (even when they were our age). At least that's what I got from her mail waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh I just want to quote someone from an email they wrote me.They said: "These days every body is talking about how we' ve lost so many gursikhs, one after the other and like it seems like we will lose even more. the thing is, we need to realize now that everybody will die 1 day and we as the youth can't always hold on to the older generation, cause they've done their bhagtee and they will all have to go too. We can not live off that generation look at them they know punjabi properly they know how to read all bani and they have done yaers of simran they have lived their lives dedicated to Guru ji and im sure they'll get rewarded for it. but look at us!! Guru ji is trying to make us stronger khalsas but we don't know anything, at the most some of us know tabla and keertan on teh vaja. Thats very good, but do any of us know REAL bhagti? Have we ever sat in samadhi and done actual real simran/ do we even get up at amrit vela? Oh GOD who are we fooling? No one but ourselves! Do we even rise at amrit vela? do we even do full loaded regular simran every single day? And then when something bad happens we fall apart because we have not done the simran to handle it. This is an outrage and i truly worry bout all my brothers and sisters in THIS generation who havent done bhagtee or simran and who are still caught in the veekars, and honestly that's the majority of us. We are all lacking! I know its hard to be perfect and i'm farthest from perfect but do we even make an effort? I don't know. i look at how strong the puratan singhs were, look at baba deep singh ji. WOW can we ever be like that?? well maybe we will have to one day. The generations above us we have had amazing gursikhs passing away like gyani amolak singh and sant thakur singh ji and maskeen ji, such amazing people, even the 3 gursikhs in may 2004, and countless others. I'm starting to realize PEOPLE in OUR generation NEED TO become the next maskeen ji, the next gyani amolak singh, the next parminder singh, we need to get the bhagtee levels of baba thakur singh , which seems impossible but how else will the panth survive? If we're losing all our older gursikhs who are such great katha vachiks and strong singhs, we need to become like that ourselves. It seems like Gods taking all the good people away, so we need to creat more good people, amazing people, and start off with ourselves. If all of us youth are still caught in my jatha your jatha seperations, how far can we get. If another morcha were to break out, how would we handle losing all our brothers and sister? Would we collapse and break down and cry or would we fight to the last breath like the khalsa panth should? Waheguru, we don't do any simran.... We don't do any simran." :mellow: waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh -------------------- waheguruuuuuuuuuuu

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh I just want to quote someone from an email they wrote me.They said: "These days every body is talking about how we' ve lost so many gursikhs, one after the other and like it seems like we will lose even more. the thing is, we need to realize now that everybody will die 1 day and we as the youth can't always hold on to the older generation, cause they've done their bhagtee and they will all have to go too. We can not live off that generation look at them they know punjabi properly they know how to read all bani and they have done yaers of simran they have lived their lives dedicated to Guru ji and im sure they'll get rewarded for it. but look at us!! Guru ji is trying to make us stronger khalsas but we don't know anything, at the most some of us know tabla and keertan on teh vaja. Thats very good, but do any of us know REAL bhagti? Have we ever sat in samadhi and done actual real simran/ do we even get up at amrit vela? Oh GOD who are we fooling? No one but ourselves! Do we even rise at amrit vela? do we even do full loaded regular simran every single day? And then when something bad happens we fall apart because we have not done the simran to handle it. This is an outrage and i truly worry bout all my brothers and sisters in THIS generation who havent done bhagtee or simran and who are still caught in the veekars, and honestly that's the majority of us. We are all lacking! I know its hard to be perfect and i'm farthest from perfect but do we even make an effort? I don't know. i look at how strong the puratan singhs were, look at baba deep singh ji. WOW can we ever be like that?? well maybe we will have to one day. The generations above us we have had amazing gursikhs passing away like gyani amolak singh and sant thakur singh ji and maskeen ji, such amazing people, even the 3 gursikhs in may 2004, and countless others. I'm starting to realize PEOPLE in OUR generation NEED TO become the next maskeen ji, the next gyani amolak singh, the next parminder singh, we need to get the bhagtee levels of baba thakur singh , which seems impossible but how else will the panth survive? If we're losing all our older gursikhs who are such great katha vachiks and strong singhs, we need to become like that ourselves. It seems like Gods taking all the good people away, so we need to creat more good people, amazing people, and start off with ourselves. If all of us youth are still caught in my jatha your jatha seperations, how far can we get. If another morcha were to break out, how would we handle losing all our brothers and sister? Would we collapse and break down and cry or would we fight to the last breath like the khalsa panth should? Waheguru, we don't do any simran.... We don't do any simran." :mellow: waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

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khalsa fauji man, that's brave of you.. it would feel so weird for me to go into a salon and watch someone cut their kes and die it and everything. I wouldn't want to see that. Even if some of my friends may cut their hair, I wouldn't wanna tag along with them to the Barber shop lol to see them remove something off their bodies that's so precious to me, my ancestors, my khalsa family, my Guru ... Don't know if that makes sense. But wow I recall going to a salon many years ago, girls used to go there to get their eyebrow hairs plucked out of their faces ( @ ) and what not. Colour their hair with disgusting chemicals and all that. I went there with a few friends, I used to cut my hair as well so it was not a problem. It was about 5 pm and they had the Punjabi radio playing, and then boom, Rehraas Sahib came on. So the ladies were sitting there listening to Rehraas Sahib while having their hair ripped out by the roots, getting hair trims, streaking their hair, getting their nails done, etc. That's when I froze and I was like hey, this feels kind of wrong... Even the ladies working there were reciting some of the Bani while cutting peoples hair and waxing peoples legs and stuff :cool: My soul was telling me to get the heck out of their as fast as possible :umm: So in my humble opinion, I wouldn't feel comfortable going to a place where kes is mutilated because I've grown to love kes more than anything and it would be weird to go somewhere where kes it being cut and stuff in front of your own eyes. No one can really say if it's against rehat or not, sometimes we should just listen to your gut feeling. p.s. you can buy salon brand conditioner and use it at home if you want your hair conditioned properly

I can..understand..perspectives of both sides but out of curiosity, what do our rehat maryadas say about this?

YSL ji, very nice post I didn't notice, it's about women from northern india, not just Sikh women.. Although it doesn't seem like these people see any difference between Sikh women and other indian women anyhow (as it appears from the poster :umm: ) haha ! anyways, enough of this nonsense

someone said, "Who was it that originally included her works in Adi Guru Granth and why?" Does it matter? Meera bai's bani is not in the Guru Granth Sahib Jee for obvious reasons. This is supposedly a conference revolving around Sikh women, but meera bai wasn't even a Sikh woman. Like I said before, I hope the conference will include the stories of the Sikh women who greatly contributed to Sikhi... :T: I wonder how this conference will turn out :umm:

Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa Waheguru Jee Kee Fateh Meera Bhai's story is beautiful; she had lots of dedication. But that was only towards Krishna Ji and not towards Akaal Purakh. That's the reason why her Bani was not put into the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. She was a devotee of Krishna. Her love for him is inspirational and teaches us how we should be with Waheguru, but most of her Bani is just praising Krishna. therefore i don't see why her name would be exemplified and emphasized at a conference for Sikh women when in fact Meera Bhai was a Hindu woman.. :cool: Meera Bhai has no relevance to Sikhi or the Panth especially compared to all the amazing Sikh women that the panth has been blessed with... Sure, she may have been a saintly person but so were Bibi Bhani Ji, Bibi Nanaki Ji, Mata Khivi Ji, Mata Sulakhni Ji, Bibi Rajni Ji, Bibi Amro Ji, Mai Bhago Ji, Mata Sahib Kaur Ji, Bibi Dalair Kaur Ji, Bibi Veero Jee, Mata Gujar Kaur Ji, Mata Tripta Ji, and sooo many more -- and their contributions to Sikhi were huge. I wonder if their names will be mentioned :umm: interesting...

raja ranjit singhs wife is the first 'sikh woman' ive ever seen with that type of attire and dress its interesting because each and every daughter of Guru Gobind Singh ji is a Queen, but none of the real singhneea i know would dress that way. Maybe your poster should have been representitive of real Kaurs... ...and maybe conferences about sikh women should be led by sikh women. i appreciate the comments of sher panjabi, ak 47, etc. the singhs who stick up for and attempt to understand the struggles of their mothers sisters & daughters are truly praiseworthy i m h o . Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Jee Kee Fateh

How did this event go? any updates vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

waheguru, brother, RELAX :umm: vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

but then the cow, looking at the tiny peice of pizza, decided to eat japmans instead vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

canada :umm: vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

YAYYYYY! You are cool, we love you vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

huh? perhaps I can't read properly. that's not making much sense to me Pyareo, maybe you shouldn't talk about "terminating" people, when you're on a Sikh Youth forum :umm: & pyareo i think the kavita goes Jiodi Sang Ban Key, Mardi ANG Bankey, not the other way around.. Because death is the companion of a Khalsa throughout life. & when a Khalsa reaches the final stage, death becomes a part of them, an ang. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

BUMPPPP vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

khalsa fauji admin-cut that is a singhnee obviously not a singh, as you wouldve noticed by reading all the comments above & seen the other pic of her below.. ne ways, whatever nice pics vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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naee ji someone sent it to me. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! The Most Beautiful Heart One day a young man was standing in the middle of the town proclaiming that he had the most beautiful heart in the whole valley. A large crowd gathered and they all admired his heart for it was perfect. There was not a mark or a flaw in it. Yes, they all agreed it truly was the most beautiful heart they had ever seen. The young man was very proud and boasted more loudly about his beautiful heart. Suddenly, an old man appeared at the front of the crowd and said, "Why your heart is not nearly as beautiful as mine." The crowd and the young man looked at the old man's heart. It was beating strongly, but full of scars, it had places where pieces had been removed and other pieces put in, but they didn't fit quite right and there were several jagged edges. In fact, in some places there were deep gouges where whole pieces were missing. The people stared ­ "How can he say his heart is more beautiful?" they thought. The young man looked at the old man's heart and saw its state and laughed. "You must be joking," he said. "Compare your heart with mine, mine is perfect and yours is a mess of scars and tears." "Yes," said the old man, "Yours is perfect looking but I would never trade with you. You see, every scar represents a person to whom have given my love - I tear out a piece of my heart and give it to them, and often they give me a piece of their heart which fits into the empty place in my heart, but because the pieces aren't exact, I have some rough edges, which I cherish, because they remind me of the love we shared." "Sometimes I have given pieces of my heart away, and the other person hasn't returned a piece of his heart to me. These are the empty gouges - giving love is taking a chance. Although these gouges are painful, they stay open, reminding me of the love I have for these people too, and I hope someday they may return and fill the space I have waiting. So now do you see what true beauty is?" The young man stood silently with tears running down his cheeks. He walked up to the old man, reached into his perfect young and beautiful heart, and ripped a piece out. He offered it to the old man with trembling hands. The old man took his offering, placed it in his heart and then took a piece from his old scarred heart and placed it in the wound in the young man's heart. It fit, but not perfectly, as there were some jagged edges. The young man looked at his heart, not perfect anymore but more beautiful than ever, since love from the old man's heart flowed into his. vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!