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Sajjan kumar ----> mother's name: Mee Kaur And is married to: Ram Kaur (married to a Sikh woman?) (one of the main congress party leaders incited mobs to rape, kill Sikhs in 1984) Jagdish tytler --->>mother's name: Dayal Kaur (one of the main congress party leaders incited mobs to rape, kill Sikhs in 1984) One of the alleged villains of 1984 Amitabah Bachan --> mother's name: Teji Suri (alleged to have called "blood revenge for blood" on TV after news of death of Indira Gandhi)

Pro-Khalistan T-shirts seized Police registers case against Hondh-Chillar whistleblower Mohit Khanna/TNS Ludhiana, December 22, 2011 The city police seized 200 pro-Khalistan T-shirts from a manufacturing unit located in the Salem Tabri area here last evening. The incident has alerted the state police which had been expecting trouble from pro-Khalistan activists ahead of the assembly elections in the state. Senior police officials have said the intelligence wing has received inputs about pro-Khalistan activists getting active. The matter further snowballed into a controversy today when the police booked Manwinder Singh Gyaspura, the whistleblower who brought to fore Hondh-Chillar massacre that took place in Haryana, for inciting religious sentiments. Talking to The Tribune on the phone, Manwinder claimed that he had been implicated in the case. "The police has registered a false case against me. These T- shirts belong to one Dilbag Singh of Amritsar. I have nothing to do with these," he said, adding that a local leader, Baljeet Jassian, had been blackmailing him for the past few days. "Last night, Baljeet and his cronies along with a police officer raided the places where these T- shirts were being manufactured and seized the material. I came to know about the incident after I was booked for instigating religious sentiments," said Manwinder. Police sources said they were investigating the matter as the government had issued specific instruction to show "zero tolerance" towards any activity that vitiated the peaceful atmosphere in the state. The government has been cautioned by Central intelligence agencies about attempts by Khalistani ideologues to push in weapons to be used during the elections. The seizure of the T-shits has sent the police department in a tizzy. DCP Ashish Chaudhry said necessary action had been taken and law would take its course. The T-shirts, bearing Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale's picture with "Pakke Khalistani" written on these, were being manufactured in a factory unit. Baljeet Jassian has alleged that nearly 10,000 pro-Khalistan T-shirts had been sold by Manwinder. "I suspect a political conspiracy behind the issue. The motive is to upset peace in the state," said Jassian, who lodged a complaint against the manufacturing of these T- shirts. ==================================== We can see back in 2011 they started to seize T-shirts an anti-democratic anti-freedom ant-human rights move.... It is the right for every human being to seek self-determination. Now if a T-shirt expresses Khalistan or has a picture of Sant ji and other shaheeds that is up the individual to decide if he/she wants to wear it. It is no business of a democratic govt or authority to jump in and tell you what you can have on your t-shirt. These are signs of slavery of being under oppression of the police state.

wrong about gays as they can not become Sikh if they follow the gay lifestyle its anti-sikh but we do not persecute them or discriminate against them. We let them be unlike other faith communities. But approaching them to become Sikhs is a complete non-starter better to let them come to Sikhs once their nasha of wrong sexual practises wears off. Regarding sehajdhari's wrong again. Sehajdhari's make up 90% of the Sikh community, because they have not had any parchaar they have fallen into drinking, inter-faith relationships at determent of Sikhism, drugs, gambling, uncontrollable debt, lack of interest in sikh faith-history-politics..... why? because they been marginalised rather than being catered for they are left to their own devices for other faiths to prey on particularly christians and muslims who know how to target them for conversions. The people we as a kaum should be targeting for parchar are: 1) hindus especially hindu punjabis (who have family relations with most punjabi Sikhs and readily convert). 2) Muslims especially muslim females should be given parchar as the muslims often target Sikh/hindu girls for conversions so why not show muslim girls why Sikhism is the truth. 3)And 3rd Christians.... alot of white and some black westerners are converting to Sikhism by themselves but again often feel neglected and left to their own devices with no real sangat around them, they need help and support into normalization into Sikh community.

These channels are in a catch 22 switch without donations they cant run properly and provide quality programming such as outside and aboard live transmissions which are costly. And without quality programming and entertaining live discussions people dont want to donate as you get 1 hour of interesting live programming per day if your lucky the rest is filled with repeated junk of useless shows of live kirtans that can be found on youtube and if people really wanted to listen or view it they could have gone to gurdwara for that. Seriously sometimes i think these channels are run by morons or people who haven't got a clue how to keep the audience interacted in this day and age where people have attention span of 2-5mins before moving on to something else if there isnt anything relevant to current Sikh issues shown.

From top of my head heres what i think the time line to the troubles against sikhs since 1947 began. 1947 happens -->> Sikh refugee's reach east punjab and indian side of border, various groups even after India and pakistan were created wanted maharajah of pataila to create khalistan but he refused and joined the Indian Union. Both hindus and Sikhs (formerly of west punjab) angry at partition and attacks by muslims and his not pushing muslims out to pakistan then attack nehru when he visits refugee camp in new delhi. Nehru let indian muslims stay in India so they would vote for congress (the killers of Sikhs) 1950 ---->> Delhi Sikhs protest for separate nation state ...in punjab master tara singh fasts until death for Sikhs to have a separate state as realises they been betrayed by congress and hindus start to oppress them. 1955 -->> indian army enters darbar sahib (dont know why yet???) 1960s ---> sant fateh singh (i think) starts fast until death (i think he dies) Sikhs riot 1966s --->> hindus and sikhs riot against each other in punjab (hindus want hindi as national language of pepsu Sikhs want punjabi as its punjabi speaking states) 1970s ---> akali dal party and others start agitations against congress govt for greater punjab rights and water rights / nirankari - khalsa secterian clash 1980s --->> Hindus extremists start to provoke Sikhs in punjab by writing inflammatory stuff in articles and destroying saroops of SGGS Ji.... BJP and other hindu extremists lobby and pressure Indira gandhi to attack darbar sahib.......operation blue star.....anti-sikh genocide all over india... . air india attack committed by RAW indian terrorist intelligence agency.....declaration of independence of khalistan ....The formation of Khalistan units of militant groups and army... 1990s ----> fake encounters, militant attacks, operation woodrose against Sikh youths (black cat indian terrorists involved) ....Sikhs blow up beanta butcher Singh and ends the blood shed and genocide and gendercide of Sikh male youths of fighting age. badal akali dal elected in 1997 2000 --->> 37 Kashmiri Sikhs massacred probably by pro-indian kashmiri militant group (like the punjab black cats) but offically blamed on LeT by west and India (allies of each other)....dehra sacha sauda incident...other sects trying to muscle in on punjab vaccum of Sikh parchaar 2013 ----> Justice denied for anti-sikh genocide for victims. Hindu extremists still trying to provoke Sikhs in Punjab by trying to interfere in our religious affairs.

Communal harmony? By telling us who we can and cant honour in our own home? In our own darbar sahib? What communal harmony is this? aman shanti gandu badal talks about how can he tolerate anyone telling Sikhs what to do? Have Sikh leaders forgotten the blood sacrifices our people paid to ensure we had a punjabi speaking state? how we had to fight our own so called indian hindu brothers just to have the rights to our own religion in the 1980s? And now they still trying to oppress who we can and can not honour? If this is not a sign of submission subjugation and slavery to the Hindu dominance and supremacy corrupt criminal mafia rule in india then I dont know what is

Tandon voices concern Tribune News Service Chandigarh, May 6 A member of the BJP core committee and former minister Balramji Dass Tandon today said a small section of radicals should not be allowed to play with the hard-earned peace in the state. Referring to developments related to Bluestar Memorial, he said the SAD and the SGPC should take a clear stand against the memorial being dedicated to militants. He said the memorial should have been a tribute to the more than 20,000 innocent persons who were either killed by terrorists and or who went down fighting for the countrys unity and integrity. Tandon said no space should be given to radical elements to dictate terms to political and religious leaders in the state. Appealing to the Akal Takht chief, Tandon said the issue should be resolved immediately to maintain communal harmony and peace in the state.

hopefully this will kick off some fireworks and let the Sikhs of punjab get worked up enough to take direct action and kick the corrupt rats that are not working in the interests of the kaum.

Partly right about the kashmir support but wrong regarding just her selfish interests as it was the ISI that was the main force and brains behind supplying arms to Khalistani soldiers. I read a journalistic piece just today where former senior RAW agent admits that sarbjeet singh types were sent into pakistan to bomb the cities for ISI's support for Khalistan armed struggle in punjab and then the kashmir struggle. In the article he says that the thinking behind the RAW's agenda was that it would become expensive for Pakistan to support movements in India it was sort of a pay back for its involvement in India's affairs. Needless to say that these secret agents were used and discarded by the Indian governments that came and went and they didnt hellp support their families nor help get them released from pakistani jails still to this day you have ISI and RAW agents rotting in both countries jails and both govts deny they exist nor support their families. Now it all makes sense to me how RAW agents bombed Air India in 1985 to give khalistan and sikhs a bad name in the world media, how the RAW agents infiltrated Separatist groups in punjab to kill the right hearted dharmic Sikh soldiers people while giving the movement a bad name using black cat indian terrorist criminals of alam sena, virk sena, kps gill regular police and paramilitary units. ..But in the end it shows that these agents get their just deserts in end... foresaken by their governments.... for their state terrorism sanctioned against foreign and domestic people.

I find the lack of scheduling listings is quite annoying and hardly much time for live discussion shows most of the air time is filled with things you can find on youtube anyways.

Cant see the pictures, can we have the pics of these brothers posted again.

And why wasnt fuss made about our brother chamel singh? Now Indians can burn the pakistani flag's and attack and kill Pakistani prisoners for killings of sarbjeet "raw indian agent" singh but if the pagal pakistani jail officials kill an ordinary Sikh guy no one bats an eye lid in the indian establishment or even our "own" highest Sikh institutions can anyone else see the disconnect here? And why so many now know sarbjeet was indeed no shaheed but a govt dog who worked for Indian govt against Sikh interests. I believe bhutto was in charge of Pakistan then? And it was India's use of terrorism I believe against pakistan which forced her to stop supporting the Khalistan movement and hand over the list of names and individuals who were trying to liberate Khalistan from Indian establishments despotic grip

I was sent by RAW but no one recognised me when I was in jail: Daniel IBNLive.com | Updated May 03, 2013 at 03:56pm IST Daniel hails from Gurdaspur district's Dadwain village and was apprehended by Pakistani rangers in 1993. He was jailed for over four years. He now pulls a rickshaw. He alleges that the Indian authorities who sent him across the border refused to recognise him and help him out once he was caught. According to him, he met many other Indians incarcerated in jail in Pakistan on espionage charges. Daniel, Indian who served jail term in Pakistan, joined IBNLive readers for an interaction on the life of an Indian in a Pakistani jail. Q. Once you came back, Did our politicians ans authority help you? Asked by: Mahesh V I was sent by RAW but no one recognised me when I was in jail: Daniel Daniel, Indian who served jail term in Pak, joined IBNLive readers for an interaction on his life in Pak jail. A. No they did not help me at all. Instead I was interrogated and tortured by policemen. They instead levied a case on me saying I willingly went to Pak. Q. How was you treated in Jain and by Pakistan Authority? Asked by: Mahesh V A. I was in Sialkot jail. I was severely tortured and severely beaten. Electric shocks and all. Q. When you approached Indian diplomats in Pakistan, what was the response you got? And who was helpful to understand? Asked by: Mahesh V A. For three days the consulate in Rawalpindi listened to me but nothing after this. Q. Do you feel like coming back to a country which fails to recognize you? This nation cares more about terrorists than our own citizen. Was there any effort taken by our holy politicians to save you? Asked by: Ravish A. I was sent by RAW. It's better not to ask me this question. I run my family by plying a rickshaw. My family did not get any help from the govt while I was in jail. Q. Why did the Indians send you across the border? Asked by: airbuss A. I was sent to spy on a few things. I can't say more. Q. Daniel, do you think there is an "Eye for an eye" philosophy in the jails in India and Pakistan, or both Sarbjit/Sanaullah were exceptional cases. Was there, ever, an incident of rough treatment meted out to you as an Indian prisoner in Pakistan? Asked by: Mansoor A. Yes, it is not of any use. But we should not expect anything from the govt. Q. does the fact that both Indian and Pakistani men are prisoners there,not enough to bind both nationals on humanitarian and emotional ground? Asked by: pallavi sakhare A. In an ideal world it should be. But the agencies on both sides of the border are heartless and just push forward the agenda of the state. Till common people take matters into their hands, nothing will change. Q. It became my perception with time that Indian govt particularly the Congress has no nationalistic agenda. Especially when it comes to nationalism (Indian people in Pakistani, Sri Lankan jail, national integrity) or the Indian Hindus conditions in domestic as well as internationally fora. They have only one focus Muslim vote-bank to be in power and nothing else. Asked by: Satya A. I can't say much about this. I am not an educated man. But during the BJP govt too, many young people were pushed in across the border. Some of them were caught and the Indian govt did not recognise them. It is not about parties but I may be wrong. Q. Because you was jailed in Pakistan, are you getting different treatment when you was looking for a job in India? Asked by: Mahesh V A. No one would give you a job, if you have been in jail. And if you were in a Pakistani jail, you get what I mean. No one would touch you even with a barge pole. Q. Why not talk about RAW? You were only doing a job...you better not pull rickshaw for life and rot for a good job you did? Why not struggle for compensation? Asked by: Irfan Sayed A. I don't know much about them. I was approached by them and did as I was told. I am happy to be alive. Compensation is a day dream for poor people like us. Q. Would you do it again? For the country? After all that's happened. Asked by: Shabbir A. Never, never again. All that talk about country is very rosy from the outside. Once you face the music, you will know. It's very murky. Q. How is life in Jail for an Indian in Pakistan Asked by: Alok A. Horrible but you have to tough it out as one has to come back to his family. It is just that hope that keeps you going.

To be fair islam does get a bad press not just from western media but from their own muslim brothers who follow the sunni / salafi / waahabi ideological path than the other sects especially the shia and sufi's tend to be more peaceful and respectful of other faiths and ideologies. However the salafist branch of islam is totally at odds with normal decent human civilised behavior and norms of wars they wish to behave like barbarians in conduct and war thus treated like such and also brand islam in that paint by the media. I will say that when I see western armed forces / israel bombing innocent civilians in muslim area's i do feel for them as human beings I do think to myself the western govt/armed forces are just as much a terrorists as the muslim jihadi's that do the same. So in that sense the muslims have my sympathies on that side but as for ideology I think its for muslims to decide how to cleanse and challenge their faith of those who give them a bad name and stop communities from working with each other to end injustice and inequalities being forced on them.

all totalitarian ideologies should be challenged and as Islam is a totalitarian idoelogy with little or no room for critics, to become aspotate without legalised islamic murder or without holding a different faith or ideology without serve persecution, harassment and discrimination then it is the duty and right of all non-muslims and muslims to challenge Islam. And it is a duty for Sikhs also to question this totaliterian ideology. http://www.sikhismislam.co.nr

I would say its better than nothing and BJP is a lesser evil than Congress but neither are any good for Sikhs in the long term. BJP core vote bank are right wing hindus and majority of Sikhs. Congress vote bank is secularist atheist hindus, some brainless gadar sikhs and mostly indian muslims. So congress party being in power is not in the interests of Hindus or Sikhs its in the interests of the indian muslims and we have seen how some of them were involved in the anti-sikh genocide and are continuing to sheild killers sajjan kumar and jagdish tytler.

Yup its on top headlines right now seems like its a huge protest dont think its just sikhs if am admi party has joined aswell as others.

How were they able to show this much power of numbers showing the Indian congress party the strength of Sikhs. And now if you look at the situation Sikhs do not congregate in large numbers unless its a religious event like vaisakhi, gurpurb or something. The only time Sikhs got 500,000 was during sarbat khalsa in 26th april 1986. So has the time come to call a sarbat khalsa? Can Sikhs again drew enough numbers like in the past?

Because she said sarbjeet was hindu and RAW agents were the killers of Sikhs and have actively under cloack and daggar tactics murdered countless Sikh famililes and youths. Why should we honour a RAW agent? Should we also honour moghul agents of the past? ISI agents? Hindutva agents? RSS has messed up so many brains of our people in punjab a war on all fronts they have made Sikhs forget their identity by their propaganda.

London Vaisakhi 2013 In 2013, London's official Vaisakhi celebrations will happen in Trafalgar Square on 5 May from 12 noon to 6pm. This year's sizzling musical line-up features Channi Singh of Alaap Shin from UK Bhangra legends DCS Navin Kundra, who has scored six no.1s in the UK Asian charts Juggy D, aka the 'Punjabi Rockstar' Foji, Bhangra superstar of the UK Asian download chart Phat Kat, presenting the sound of London's Asian youth Pioneers of British Bhangra, the legendary Heera Group will also be playing, while British born Hindi singer Avina Shah is performing with Kishan Amin tipped to be the next big Bollywood artist from the UK. The musical entertainment also includes the unique sounds of Badal, the youthful and talented San2 and Asli Baharan Punjab Diyan (ABPD), the UK's first mixed Bhangra and Giddha group. Other highlights include top DJs and children's activities including arts and crafts, henna artists and face painting.

The British designed the system so well that its puppets would fight each other while they ruled over them, the same system is in place right now where these so called sikh leaders like badal and others play for the punjab Sikh vote when it comes to the elections but then totally ignore them afterwards. This is the big failure of the democratic system especially the indian one. It shows the views of the electorate are not heard instead they are marginalised once the politican is in power. If there is going to be any hope for India Union it must break away from these vote bank politics or it is better it breaks up into separate countries

Yeah i think Sikhistan, has quite not done his research From most of the individuals and orgs ive looked up i cant find any wrong doing of theirs, some may have good relations with the indian govt but doesn't make them totally against aspirations of Sikh kaum and nation. Check this powerful speech by Dr ajrawat against Indian govt officials and criminals also speaks out against the air indian bombing committed by indian govt RAW agents

Dal Khalsa UK is pretty much a joke side show at the moment as its clearly heavily pakistani gov influenced in in favor off against hindus and other sects within sikhism. So hardly any Sikhs give it much credibility, also its personality driven always showing next deads mans picture in their facebook page just doesnt look good. But to their credit they do raise awareness of issues of the panth Dont know much about most of the individuals and organisations on there. But suprised you put Dr ajrawat in that list as he has long fought for Khalistan I remember reading his articles back in late 1990s which got me aware of what the Indian govt was and had done to the sikhs. He has raised alot of awareness and has key pieces of evidence of crimes by the indian state on the Sikh nation on his website. He also has been activity involved in getting Khalistan recongised in the UNO voice for stateless nations