Ksinghni

Thats a bit of an odd question!! IF we could drink alocohol then we would be no different to any other people who drink it. Intresting though that there are people who can drink and not have effects on them... However I still don't think that we would like to drink (I hope everyone else agrees!)

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Ermmmm...so if you know someone is doing something wrong ~(breaking their rehat)....you feel that you shouldn't tell them....as you wont be a sikh anymore....WOW what logic Just my view :TH:

I know many Singhnis' that have facial hair and yes having some myslef, I do know how hard it is to keep it, but that is no excuse to remove it. Guroo jee has stated the importance of kes.. rom rom har oucharai khin khin har soee - With each and every hair, they chant the Lord's Name, each and every instant, the Lord. gurmukh rom rom har dhhiaavai - The Gurmukh meditates on the Lord with every hair of his body. rom rom mehi basehi muraar - and on each and every hair, the Lord abides waheguroo, I could post some more tukhs but this is just a few. Having extra hair is an amazing gift, we should feel blessed. Yes it is hard is todays' society but it is not impossible. Mahavir Ji said that some of it is to due with diet. That is partly due but there is condition which is more prone to asians which causes excessive hair growth. One should go to their doctor and discuss this as there are hormone type medicine which you can take, not just to conrtol the hair growth but other factors too.

I agree with Mehtab Singh Ji! The purpose of drinking alochol is a lot to do with a person "unwinding" and Im pretty sure most people dont drink it because of the taste?? (I wouldnt know as Ive never tasted the stuff!) Guroo Mahraaj has said that drinking alcohol is prohibited for many reasons and I think there really is no need for us to drink it anyway - even if it would not affect us!

Heera Singh Ji, I believe I did say earlier: " My friend and I have actually tried confronting them but was told that it is none of our business.The reply I gave to that was that when I see stuff like that happening in the DARBAR SAHIB, I make it my business. If that makes me a fanatic or such then Im guilty. As for just forgetting about it, well it must take a great deal to do that, a stage where this moorakh is not at" Some would argue that we said it in a nasty way but I assure you it wasnt. If there wasnt anything going on , why would they get so defensive? I also dont think its fair to say that if a singh is talking to a bibi then its "Automatically" flirting. Its the way you talk to a person and their body langauge. One can pick up a lot from that alone. Im very sorry if Ive caused offence or upset anyone for I am just a moorakh. :wub:

calm down aman ji! hehe but having said that, any progress?

Tarunjeet Singh Ji raised an excellent point in saying that we are now starting to see it as a norm to wear make -up whilst wearing dastar, and singhs gelling their daree! I myself see it as beabdhi to the dastar and not to mention to the kes. Not only do the bibiyan look very silly but very odd too. The beauty of wearing a dastar is that you are respresnting Guroo Ji's roop and to wear a dastar holds great responsibilty. If one cannot handle that responsilbity then they should not be wearing it in the first place for they tarnish other Gursikh bibiyan! The other day I was asked by a work collegue why I dont wear make up. I told them that I have no need to paint my face and to wear make up is usually to try an attract attention, I already do that by wearing a dastar! Their reply disheartened me, they told me that they saw a bibi with a dastar with make up and bleached facial hair. and they assumed it was normal. Also is it just me but do parents not notice that their kids do this stuff? I mean the people that I talked a bout in my 1st post, their parents were there (sitting next to them!)

Well the reason I bought this up was because I thought this was a discussion forum? But all of a sudden Im being told that I shouldnt judge etc. :wub: "If you saw people socializing... do what Vicky Singh said. Either talk to them about it in a kind, caring way or stop thinking about it! It'll eat away at your soul - all of the negativity, judgementalness, etc." Vicky Singh Ji, in an ideal world, one would talk to them an they would realise the error of their ways and change. My friend and I have actually tried confronting them but was told that it is none of our business. The reply I gave to that was that when I see stuff like that happening in the DARBAR SAHIB, I make it my business. If that makes me a fanatic or such then Im guilty. As for just forgetting about it, well it must take a great deal to do that, a stage where this moorakh is not at.

hearing this truely breaks my heart. its disgusting.

waheguroo truely inspiring. We should share this with our parents and our elders.

waheguroo ji ka khalsa waheguroo ji ke fateh Sangat ji, I am new to this forum so forgive me if I make any mistakes. A couple of weeks back, I went to a kirtan programme and was really shocked and upset to see bibiyan with dastars wearing make up and the singhs flirting with them. Basically this was taking place during the kirtan and I could see these kids (well I say kids because thats the way they were behaving!!) texting each other and then smiling at one another! The thing that breaks my heart is that they were doing it whilst sitting in the sangat where the kirtanis are (so right behind them) WHATS HAPPENING SANGAT JIO???!!! Where are the times where one would go to kirtan to gain laha and not to socialise?? And also being a singhni myself, those bibiyan really brought shame upon us singhnis;, they had nail varnish, eye liner and lip gloss. I just feel so sad ... bull chuk maaf waheguroo ji ka khalsa waheguroo ji ke fateh

waheguroo ji ka khalsa waheguroo ji ke fateh The Tapoban is an AWESOME site, soo inspiring. I along with many others think its not strict at all! Hmm, one shouldnt really complain if its strict, maybe if it was laid back then I can understand but not strict! way to go tapoban site! :wub: