Jonny101

Even though Gurmat does not agree with homosexuality, but no one should be bullied or abused for being this way. Ajeet Singh Jee, if you are being bullied you should report it to your principal. If the bullies get violent, then I suggest you report it to the police.

Khalistani Gun Man, so Panth Parkash which all Nihangs in India beleive in is lying when it shows how brave Sikh warriors were? I suggest you read some history from the original sources like Panth Parkash of Bhangoo or the works of Giani Gian Singh are also recommended. The Nang propaganda of Niddar has no historical base, even though he falsely uses the Nihang title every time he flaunts his anti Sikh theories. Even the Nihangs in India laugh at his antics.

Good job. Looks good

I have seen many of these Sikh girls whose fathers are Amritdharis. Again, these girls have little or no religious values. Most of them cant and don't do Paath. They have little or no knowledge of Sikhi. They are pretty much the same as girls whose fathers are Monas. On the other hand, I have seen Sikh girls who are raised with religious values since childhood, they do Paath on a regular basis, love doing Kirtan. Such girls will almost always marry a Sikh. Only some very rare exception will you find such a girl going astray. Such girls are the kind of girls we need to raise our girls as.

That Miyamoto Musashi documentary was really good. Worth watching. The modern Japanese have become too western and urban. Nothing like the rough and tough Japanese of the olden times.

The best way to prevent our kuria from doing the kind of things they do is to stop their secular upbringing. When we give an innocent child secular values instead of religious values what will we expect them to do when they get young? obviously they will put khay on the heads of their parents(and the community). I still don't understand why everyone here blames the other community for targeting our girls. No one is putting a gun to the heads of our girls when they act slutty and go out with men from other communities and eventually get abused. If you play with fire, you're gonna get burned. Religious values need to be instilled into our kurian since childhood. Only then can we expect better results. Until then, expect more of our kurian doing the things they do. Look at Muslims, no matter how non religious they are, they will always give their girls religious values and keep them away from the secular values. Let's not forget that our young girls are the future mothers of the Sikhs. if they are going to go clubbing, drinking, go out with boys, what kind of values(sanskaars) are they going to pass on to their children? this is how societies decay and degrade. If a mother has rotten values, it is very likely that is what her children will also be.

The world is full of people who put those down who are on the path of Guru Jee. People only see the outer shell not realizing that one day this outer shell will decay and eventually become mere dust. This Bibi is more brave than most of us. We can learn a lot from her courage.

If anyone knows the people of Panthic.org or any other Sikh news site, inform them of this man so they can write a report on him.

I think this sorry excuse of a Sikh has shown his true views in this video. Sangat in the UK needs to be aware of him and spread the word about him and his anti Sikh organization.

The thaal and diva are irrelevant to one's Sikhi. People like to make all sorts of stories behind it, but in the end It's just a bipran karam kaand. The real aarti is what is happening in Vaheguru's creation. A Sikh should just do kirtan with full Dhyaan when reciting Aarti, because in the end that is what counts.

he made some good posts. he needs to come back

Which God are we talking about? God the father, Jesus or the Holy Ghost? that's 3 not 1

True, about Sikhs not being killed in Bangal during 84. I have heard that the congress in Bangal wanted to cause bloodshed, but Jyoti Basu the communist leader had given them a strict warning that if they try to do anything, they will be severely dealt with. Jyoti Basu was a great leader indeed. That being said, I don't think Punjab should adopt the Bangal model of governance. Before 1947, Bangal was the most industrialized state and it's infrastructure was the most advanced in India. But because of the communist economic policies, it's industry suffered greatly. Because of it's inaction against foreign intruders, Bangal will be a Muslim majority state in the future thanks to the millions of Bangladeshis migrating to Indian Bangal. Even though Bangal is a Hindu majority state, but the communist government had made cow slaughter legal in the state. Lets just say, Punjab is better off under the Akalis and Congress rather than living under the communists.

Many Panthic Singhs(Bhai Ajnala, Mann, Daduwal, Bittu etc) from all over Punjab were also arrested during the strike relating to Bhai Rajoana a few months ago in Punjab. At the time, even Wassan Singh Zafferwal was arrested even though he is no longer active in Sikh affairs. These men were picked up by the police for no reason. The excuse the police gave was that it is a preventive measure. Many of us may not know this, the Punjab government is very active in keeping intelligence in Punjab. I have a relative who is a sarpanch in a village near Amritsar, he tells me that every now and then, he will receive phone calls from the CID asking him info about certain people in the village who are potentially Panthic minded. Surprisingly when Panthic Singhs from all over Punjab were picked up during the Rajoana strike a few months ago, it is worth noting that Baba Harnam Singh Dhuma and some other prominent Sants(Baba Hari Singh Randhawa) who have links with the Akalis were not arrested, while Panthic Sants like Daduwal were arrested and let go only after Singhs cooled down.

This can move anyone to tears. I really feel for these two brothers. They no longer have their mother with them at such a young age. Their mother did a great job in raising such good boys. true.

Max Arthur did not lay the foundation of Singh Sabha, please read some history books. If Singh Sabha is protestant does that make the Sanatanists Catholics? Modern UK niddarists are trying to change what Hindus are by claiming that it is not a religion but a geographic term in order to blur the distinction of Sikhs from the Hindus. They are trying to say that Hindu is not really a religion but a geographical location (i.e. India) and since Sikhs are mostly from India then Sikhs are also Hindus. This type of logic is pure hogwash.. It simply does not make sense make sense if you put Sikh scriptures in the equation. In Gurbani we have famous Tukhs like Hindu anna, turku Kaana meaning the Hindu is blind since he does not beleive in Vaheguru, and the Mussalmaan(turk) is one eyed since he at least believes in God. So Hindu here is used to denote a religious community, not a geographic location since Sikhs were also in that same geographic location as Hindus. Further, in Gurbani Guru Jee says Na Hum Hindu, Na Mussalmaan (I am neither Hindu nor Muslim). Again, Hindu here implies a religious group as is Mussalmaan(Muslim). Listen to what Sant Bhindranwale has to say on this matter: Sant Jee was not education by Singh Sabha, he got all his understanding of Sikhi from Taksal from which even Nihangs study from. And since niddarists have an alergy to Singh Sabha, they at least cannot accuse Sant Jernail Singh Bhindranwale of being Singh Sabha influenced. Even the Nihangs in India are not in agreement with the niddarist interpretation. Even they say Sikh Panth is the teesr Panth(the 3rd and distinct Panth), implying that it is distinct from the other two Panths i.e. Islam and Hinduism.

Such 'sikhs' are ones who consider Sikhi as a ethnic group rather than a spiritual path. From the pictures it's obvious they are all a bunch of uncle toms. I bet half of their children have probably married non Sikhs. They have absolutely no Sikhi left left inside of them, yet have the audacity to think they represent the Sikhs. Members of this so called Sikh organization are a living contradiction.

Bhai Talwinder Singh Parmar was no double agent Veerji. The same lies have been said about Sant Bhindranwale to discredit him that he was a double agent, but are we going to beleive this? No. Bhai Parmar was hot headed, but like most Sikhs in 84 who wouldn't be. Like him or not, but he gave his life for the Panth, he is a Shaheed, while we are living comfortably in the west with our families. It is not befitting of a Sikh to criticize a Shaheed, what have we done for the Panth? nothing! All the so called evidence and arguments that you have presented here against these Singhs have been used by the prosecution team during the trial, but in the end the defense destroyed all the prosecution's arguments and showed them to be hallow and often false. So all the arguments you are repeating here have been discredited in the court of Law.

Our old granths and ithihas is all in poetry. At first I did not know anything about poetry, but If one reads our old granths, the poetry can rub off on you and can make the biggest moorakhs(like me) into poets. By the way, I hope I did not offend you, that was not my intention. But reading your post, the poetry just came out.

ਬਰਿੰਦਰ ਸਿਆਂ, ਕਰਨ ਦਿਯਾਂ ਹੈ ਬੜੇ ਤੂੰ ਅਧਰਮੀ ਕਰਮ। ਭਰਾਵਾਂ ਦੀ ਬਦਨਾਮੀ ਕਰਕੇ, ਲਥ ਗਈ ਹੈ ਤੇਰੀ ਸ਼ਰਮ। ਨਾਹੀ ਹੈ ਤੂੰ ਜੂਲੀਅਨ ਉਸਾੰਜ, ਨਾਹੀ ਹੈ ਹਕੀਮ ਲੁਕਮਾਨ। ਛਡ ਆਪਣਾ ਹੰਕਾਰ ਗਾਫਲ, ਵਿਚੋਂ ਕਡਕੇ ਖੁਦੀ ਗੁਮਾਨ। ਕੂੜ ਕੁਬੋਲ ਬੋਲ ਕੇ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ ਬੜੀ ਤੂੰ ਆਪਣੀ ਮਸ਼ਹੂਰੀ। ਅਕਲ ਦਾ ਨਮੂਨਾ ਵਿਖਾਕੇ ਮਾਰਦਾ ਏ ਟਪੂਸੀ ਵਾਂਗ ਲੰਗੂਰੀ। ਸਿਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਹੀ ਬਦਨਾਮੀ ਦੇਕੇ, ਗੁਰੂ ਨੂੰ ਕੀ ਵਿਖਾਇੰਗਾ ਸ਼ਕਲ। ਸਿਆਣਫ ਤੇਰੀ ਮਿਹੰਗੀ ਪੈਂਦੀ, ਵੇ ਸਾੰਬ ਰਖ ਆਪਣੀ ਅਕਲ। ਸਿਖ ਹੀ ਸਿਖ ਨੂੰ ਬਦਨਾਮ ਕਰੇ, ਸਮੁਚੇ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਦੀ ਹੈ ਹਾਰ। ਛਡ ਜ਼ਿਦ ਢੀਠਪੁਨਾ, ਅਕਲ ਰਖ ਵੇ ਵਿਚ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਦੀ ਛਾਰ।

ਸਹੀ ਹੈ ਵੀਰਜੀ, ਇਸੇ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਤਾਂ ਮੈਂ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਵਿਚ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹੈ। ਘਰ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਜੇ ਘਰ ਵਿਚ ਹੀ ਰਹੇ ਤਾਂ ਘਰ ਦੀ ਇਜੱਤ ਰਿਹੰਦੀ ਹੈ। ਜੇ ਘਰ ਦਾ ਏਕ ਮੇੰਬਰ ਆਪਣੇ ਹੀ ਘਰ ਦਿਆਂ ਦੀ ਬਦਨਾਮੀ ਕਰਨ ਤੇ ਤੁਲਿਆ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਅਪਸੋਸ ਵਾਲੀ ਗੱਲ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ।

N30 Singh Veerji, I don't even know where to begin as your post here is full of sheer ignorance. Deep down I do respect you (I really do) and know that you are doing whatever you do in good intention. But as acsap Jee said, you are the one who always preaches to others to not see everything in black and white. Yet you are doing exactly that which you preach against. I have already discussed this with you previously point by point but this time you have just repeated the same things over again. ਵੀਰਜੀ, ਗੱਲ ਉਹ ਕਰੀ ਦੀ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਨਾਲ ਸਮੁਚੇ ਪੰਥ ਨੂੰ ਕੋਈ ਫਾਇਦਾ ਹੋਵੇ, ਪਰ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਤਾਂ ਉਹੀ ਗੱਲ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਹੋ ਜਿਸ ਨਾਲ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਬਦਨਾਮੀ ਦਾ ਸਾਹਮਣਾ ਕਰਨਾ ਪਵੇ। ਸਿਆਣੇ ਕਿਹੰਦੇ ਨੇ ਕਿ ਇਕ ਸਮਝਦਾਰ ਦੁਸ਼ਮਨ ਨਾਲੋਂ ਇਕ ਮੂਰਖ ਦੋਸਤ ਜ਼ਿਆਦਾ ਖਤਰਨਾਕ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਬੁਰਾ ਨਾ ਮਨਿਓੁ ਪਰ ਇਹ ਕਹਾਵਤ ਬਿਲਕੁਲ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਤੇ ਢੁਕਦੀ ਹੈ। ਮਨ ਦੀ ਦਬੀ ਹੋਈ ਪੜਹਾਸ ਕਡਣ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਜੇ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਵਰਗੇ ਹੀ ਸਿਖ ਦੂਸਰੇ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਲੱਤਾਂ ਕਿਛਨਗੇ ਤਾਂ ਦੁਸ਼ਮਨ ਦਾ ਕੰਮ ਤਾਂ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਸੋਖਾ ਹੋ ਰਿਹਾ ਹੈ।

N30 Singh Veerji again with this? those planes were downed by the GOI in order to tarnish the image of the Sikhs. We already have 2 SIkhs found NOT GUILTY yet they are still hounded by Sikhs like you. As for Inderjit Rayat, the man just himself admitted to man slaughter charges because his lawyer and prosecution came to a deal that if he admits to this he will be out soon. He took the easy way out instead of spending another few decades in jail fighting this case he thought okay I will admit to these charges and get out soon. People on the inside generally know of this, yet you are still making him like he is the mastermind behind all of this. Common veerji, it's one thing if we have congressi Sikhs or paid media people spreading lies and tarnishing the image of Sikhs, but it's really unfortunate when we have Singhs like you doing it just out of stubbornness(zidh). No Sikhs supports the downing of those planes, even Jhujaaroo Singhs of that times condemned this action. Yet why are you going out of your way to say no it is Sikhs who did this for no reason, what will Sikhs in Canada gain by your Zidh? ਥੋੜਾ ਸੋਚ ਸਮਝ ਕੇ ਗੱਲ ਕਰੀ ਦੀ ਹੈ ਵੀਰ ਜੀ

what a sick <banned word filter activated>

I agree. During the 80s Sikhs were extremely angry, especially during 84 when Darbar Sahib was attacked and Sikhs were murdered after Indira Gandhi died. Many Sikhs at the time became very over emotional and said things that were not politically correct. As pro active jee pointed out, it's not like he literally killed 50,000 Hindus you know. You have to be alive during those times to understand. It's very easy for us now almost 3 decades after 84 to point fingers at flaan tamkaan said this and that. It's almost like a self hating Jew today trying to dissect the words of what a Jew might have said against Germany as the holocaust was happening against the Jewish people.