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14 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

Is that a video of you, @dallysingh101?

On 4/10/2023 at 11:55 AM, dallysingh101 said:

@LifeIsBeautiful

It would be nice if you shared some thoughts on what your initial perceptions were and what they are now. To help the younguns. 

Or the not-so-younguns

3 hours ago, LifeIsBeautiful said:

Been married for 9 years now, have 1 child. Ended up getting an arranged marriage with a mental chick.from India.

 

I highly recommend sardaras from canada, uk, please if your born there, don't get married in India.

I have always been positive perosn, unfortunately I married someone who basically destroyed my mental sanity, if it wasn't for my son, I probably would have ended myself.

Unfortunately it your a wealthy person, it's not easy to get a divorce. I have worked so hard for my son.

What information did you have about the girl before you got married?

4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't know much about it (other than from my interactions with various freshies at various jobs) , but I think the 'culture' <cough, cough> emanating from there these days is quite telling......

 

 

Someone should have cleaned up the above fudhoo along with moosewala. 

Believe me, I've spent much of my life with the goal of completely avoiding Punjabis (and your post partially explains why).

But alas, I am stuck with them in some sense ...

I hope that I can talk to some of you who are more familiar than I am with modern Punjab and its culture. This does not have to do with the other threads I made about land or traveling.

It is a more personal matter, so it would be best discussed via private messages.

If any of you are kind of enough to take the time, please let me know.

Thank you.

On 4/3/2023 at 4:30 PM, Singh1989 said:

Although you have a right to fear but really, there nothing to fear. 

Only last month this Sarb Soorat Singh (I mean me) was at Delhi airport and police / security treated me just like a normal person. On top their were LOADS of Singh / Singhnia going about their Business in n around the airport. As long as u have the correct papers and travel documents should be zero problem. 

Personally, this time round I didn't enjoy India much. It's cause staying at Tai / Chachi's (and dad too, I guess) house. Bibias argue in the kitchen, can drive over there so have to b reliant on cousin, women are concerned about themselves n their own fam over cooking... no love and no logistics to travel. I announced to my parents n wife next visit I will be at a hotel... 

What is the nearest city to Moga?? You will definitely find a hotel in that city... unless Moga is a City? Then there should b a hotel there... lol I heard of Moga but can't remember if it's closer to Amritsar or Hoshiarpur? Anyways... 

You definitely will need a lawyer for this job. There may be rip offs but u will have to judge n haggle(?) 

Good luck. 

 

 

Come on Veer Ji, don't be so lazy to do a 5 second google search

Moga is a city (center of its own district) and it is not especially "close" to either of Amritsar or Hoshiarpur. It is in the Malwa region, south of the Sutlej River. The closest big city is Ludhiana (about 70 km away).

By the way, what is sikhawareness.com?

At first glance, it appears to be similar to sikhsangat (with some of the same posters ... or at least some posters who use the same screen names as some posters here), but with little/no moderation and thus more tabloidish topics.

4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

It's a shame you're back home - you missed this party in your hometown...........

 

https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/22498-2-shot-at-a-sikh-temple-in-sacramento/

I've never even stepped foot in Sacramento.

How are they getting so many photos of him without being able to capture him?

13 hours ago, proactive said:

 

As other members have said, if you are going to Delhi airport then Indo-Canadian coaches is the safest bet. I would not rely on Taxis. If I remember correctly, the coach will take you to Ludhiana, it is comfortable and as it is also full of Apnay going to Punjab, you might be able to meet some other families or individuals going to Moga or the villages around. These would be good contacts in the local area and they would also understand the issues that people in your position face. The main coach will stop at Ludhiana and then a 4x4 will take you to Moga maybe a roadside Dhaba on the main GT road. From there you can get a local taxi to your hotel. The contacts could also help you connect with any lawyers who they have used who could help with any legal advice with your inheritance issues. 

 

For the coach you will be given a seat number, you might be lucky and find someone going to Moga in one the seats close by. If not the coach stops at Haveli restaurant at Karnal for food so you can use that as an opportunity to ask fellow members if they are from Moga. Otherwise the coach apart from the driver it also has a assistant who gives out water bottles during the drive up to Punjab so you could ask him if he could make an announcement to ask which passengers are going to Moga. If not, you will meet the passengers going to Jagroan and Moga in the smaller 4x4 or the smaller minibus which take passengers off the main coach onto to there. 

 

Try not to have too much luggage with you. Just take the clothes that you need to wear of the length of your trip. This will make you more flexible if you need to move to another location for any reason.  Do not take any gold Karas or any gold necklaces etc. There is a epidemic of snatchings by motorcycle borne thieves and apart from the loss of gold it is possible that you could get injured if you get targeted. 

 

Make sure you buy travel insurance especially if you are going for longer than a week in case you get injured or face a health emergency. If you do not have it then some of the  doctors and clinics there will take advantage of you. If your inheritance issues is to do with closing bank accounts or fixed deposits (FDs). Some banks are good but others are complete har@mzadas. Punjab National Bank are of the har@mzada variety. Make sure you know before hand what documentation you need in order to take any money out of a bank account of the person you are inheriting from. 

Thank you for the advice Veer Ji.

I don't even have any interest in claiming any inheritance. I am basically stuck going because my relatives have been negligent and they apparently can't do anything with the property unless I formally inherit it and then give them power of attorney. Apparently, it was jointly in the name of my father and the other involved parties. They insist that if I don't go to Punjab and fill out the paperwork there, they cannot do anything with the land. I find that difficult to believe, considering how corrupt India is.

Anyway, as I said, I have no interest in any of this and I would not go to Punjab if it was just something in my name. But they have made me out to be the bad guy who is inflicting unfair harm on them by not going, so I am stuck.

To be honest, I am still tempted at times to just tell my relatives to &lt;banned word filter activated&gt; off and deal with it themselves somehow. I really do not want to go to India.

14 minutes ago, TuhadaDaas said:

Whether dehli airport or amritsar Airport, both have got a taxi kiosk INSIDE the airport itself.

Once you have collected luggage, the last part of the airport before you exit the airport building, you have the last restaurant or two, currency exchange and also a taxi kiosk. You go to the kiosk and tell them where you need the taxi to - if I remember correctly you get a slip with a number on it and get told to go to the relevant area just outside the airport. Your driver will approach you and should tell you the same number you have on the slip to prove they are your taxi driver. Price will have been arranged inside with the kiosk people already. I'm not sure if the system has changed but the taxi kiosk inside inside airport should definitely be safe I believe.

 

The only issue I can see with the above is that I'm not sure if the airport one will take you all the way to moga (or if they do,not sure if they will give you a difficult rate). In this case what I can suggest is getting the airport taxi to a reputable hotel nearby. E.g. marriot or hyatt etc. Stay the night and get them to arrange you a taxi for your longer journey to moga. 

 

Another option if you land in Sri Amritsar Sahib is to get the airport taxi to take you up to Harmandar Sahib. Once at Harmandar Sahib there is a road where all the saraan (sgpc guesthouses for sangat) are , this is the road which leads up to baba atal rai ji gurdwara /kaulsar sahib gurdwara , it is just to one side of Harmandar Sahib about 3 mins away. On this road there should be some taxi ranks - i have used one there which I think has since closed down, but I would hope any of those stalls would be trustworthy as they are based in quite a prominent position so would probably want to avoid bad pr.

 

Finally india has apps such as uber and an india only equivalent called "ola". There are also big taxi companies like "megacabs" which you can book over the phone.

Dressing as a nihang singh in india generally leads to being dealt with with respect.

 

 

Thank you Veer Ji.

Is there any reason for me to be concerned about the taxis? Even though I can speak Punjabi, my accent will immediately give away that I am an NRI. Is there any chance that taxi drivers may try to kidnap me or rob me or anything like that?

The idea of staying at a reputable hotel overnight and going through them sounds good.

Now that I think about it, Amritsar airport would surely allow for a shorter journey to Moga.

Do you guys have opinions about the relative ease and safety traveling from Amritsar airport vs Delhi airport?

By the way, I am not planning on going in the next few weeks, so the current unrest in Punjab is not an issue, per se.

I would like to go during the summer sometime.

So it looks like I will not be able to avoid going to Punjab to take care of some business matters related to inherited property.

Long story short, I don't feel comfortable taking rides from relatives or staying at their houses. I do not like my relatives and cannot stomach the thought of relying on them. I would like to stay on my own and travel on my own.

Can you guys please offer some good suggestions on how to travel from Delhi airport to Moga safely and independently? And would a small city like Moga have a decent hotel that I can stay at?

I am primarily concerned about people being able to tell that I am an NRI and trying to take advantage of me.

Also, please keep in mind that I am a sabat soorat Singh. Getting targeted by Indian authorities for no reason may sound like an irrational fear, but I am legitimately concerned that they could lock me up simply for being a singh and throw away the key.

On 3/11/2023 at 2:56 PM, dallysingh101 said:

Why drag this bollox out after decades? It's not like we don't have other more impending issues. 

The song is still played all the time.

Many Punjabis grew up thinking that this song perfectly summarized what it means to be Punjabi.

The glorification of degenerate "Punjabi" culture continues to have an enormous negative impact today, and it is interesting to take a look back at a song that laid the foundation for that. In particular, I found it it interesting to note how much it was full of revisionist bs and blatantly anti-Sikh.

You've gotta love it at the end when the clown gets emotional over the Ravi being separated from the Chenab.

Why so much footage of the Indian military celebrating?

This is what a "baba" in a mid-90s Punjabi village looks like in Maan's revisionist Punjab:

Watch the video. In a few minutes, it captures the complete victory of secular, degenerate "Punjabiyat" over Sikhi. It does so in several ways.

First, it celebrates anti-Sikh practices as central and beloved parts of everyday life in Punjab:

- Alcohol is referred to not just in the chorus, but also in other lines (like the one referencing a peg)

- Maan celebrates being a jatt

- People are playing cards (and therefore probably gambling)

Second, it almost erases the Sikh presence from Punjab

- The vast majority of men in the video are monay, of the rest almost all are beard trimmers. There are one or two Sikhs with beards in it. Even most of the old men are monay. The video was made in the mid 90s.

- The flagrant deletion of the Sikh presence in Punjab is perhaps most apparent in a scene featuring a "baba" who grabs Maan's ear during the card game. How ludicrous is it that, in the the mid 90s, a "baba" in Punjab has a haircut, a mustache, no beard, and a sloppily tied pagh with the final layer left hanging on the back? The man looks like a Haryanvi Hindu jaat. I've never seen an elderly Sikh (even trimmers and monay) wearing a pagh with a mustache but no other facial hair or stubble. Not nowadays, and DEFINITELY not 30 years ago. In Maan's revisionist Punjab, the elderly Sikh "baba" archetype is replaced by a Haryanvi Hindu jaat. Let that sink in for a moment.

Third (and perhaps most disgustingly): along with the near-absence of Sikhs, we see a large proportion of the men wearing military uniforms. I take it you guys know what the Indian military was responsible for in the decade and a half prior to when the "Apna Punjab Hove" video was produced. So why would the military be featured so prominently in the video? It is symbolic and sickening: the Sikhs have been defeated, and the military is left standing, celebrated as the true sons of Punjab as they dance and engage in anti-Sikh practices (drinking).

That is the Punjab that is celebrated by Maan (and most dimwitted, shameless Punjabis of modern times): a Punjab free of Sikhi and taken over by a bunch of degenerates.

The most sad this is that, while Maan was engaging in ludicrous revisionism, his depiction is what Punjab has more-or-less become.

On 3/4/2023 at 2:37 PM, dallysingh101 said:

What planet are you on bro? We wasted decade upon decade going to Human Rights groups, UN, various governments, countless marches - haven't you learned that these things are useless yet? Jews are white too, and we should all know (by now!) how deeply rooted white supremacist racism plays a central part in western european politics. 

You seriously think any org would push for sanctions against India? And that too, for our mostly pendu, minor economical status community.  I don't think so. 

 

When people post things like you have above, it makes me wonder just how politically clueless apnay are - even after all this time. Sorry, it's not a personal attack but I'm just exasperated by it at this point. 

You make a great point.

Nobody is going to mess with an economic giant consisting of over 1 billion people because some random, uneducated pendus who have no money, no organization and no power.

Sikhs are very clueless. Just browsing SikhSangat is extremely depressing. I think there was a thread a long time ago where people were speculating on the worldwide Sikh population, and everyone was just pulling random crazy numbers out of their @sses (like over 100 million).

9 hours ago, BhForce said:

You make good points, but none of them invalidate the reasons I gave that it's not just "a bunch of rocks".

 

Sikhs will not be able to move forward and progress until we stop:

1. Attaching importance to silly things

and

2. Living in the past (and even worse: living in a pretend fairy tale version of the past)

The Koh-i-noor diamond is not some sort of special symbol of Sikh sovereignty. It has just been a status symbol for various rulers over time. The Sikh obsession with it is corny and pathetic on multiple levels. It's like caring about random material possessions of some rich person just because that rich person comes from the same background as you. Also, Sikhs crying about the British taking it is silly considering that Ranjit Singh took it from someone. What is the appropriate amount of time to go back to determine the "rightful" owner of anything?

9 hours ago, BhForce said:

It might be, but you do admit that I'm not the only one who does so, right? Even Sikhs who currently reside outside the Lahore Kingdom's borders (i.e., west of Satluj) look back to Maharaja Ranjit Singh fondly. Few look fondly to the Patiala or other kingdoms.

Instead of being puzzled, I'd ask you to probe the reasons. Why indeed do Sikhs remember Maharaja Ranjit Singh and not any of a half dozen other Sikh rajas?

Why does it matter that you aren't the only one who engages in sentimental revisionism about Ranjit Singh's kingdom? Does the fact that, in addition to you, a large proportion (probably a majority) of our people are misguided and misinformed somehow make it less cringe-worthy?

Regarding why Sikhs remember Maharaja Ranjit Singh and not the other various Sikh rajas, there are two reasons:

1. Ranjit Singh had a much larger kingdom

but, moreover:

2. 95% of today's Sikhs (including Malwai) probably are unaware of the existence of the other rajas in any case

We are sadly one of the most clueless and ill-informed groups of people on the planet. I bet you more than 95% of Sikhs who have heard of Ranjit Singh also believe that his empire included all of modern Indian Punjab.

4 hours ago, BhForce said:

Bro, you're totally right as far as "a bunch of rocks".

But it's what they represent which is the issue.

The Sikhs took the Peacock throne from Delhi. Sure, "who cares about some yellow metal". But it represents sovereignty. "Khalsa Badshah"

Guru Hargobind ji fought a war for some hawks. Sure, "just a bunch of birds". But they represented the sovereignty of the Sikhs.

These are the crown jewels of the Sarkar-e-Khalsa. (I don't see that India has a claim on them.)

Sikhs need to stop looking back at Ranjit Singh's empire and making it out to be something that it wasn't.

As for "sovereignty," Ranjit Singh's empire began when he robbed other Sikh misaldars of their sovereignty. Was that fighting something that was happening according to Khalsa principals? Or was it just another instance of rulers fighting over land and power (which has been happening since the beginning of time)?

Did Ranjit Singh's empire have a significant impact on the preservation and spread of Sikhi? It doesn't seem like it.

In more detail: roughly half the "long term" Sikh population of the time lived outside the borders of Ranjit Singh's empire. Was there a dramatic difference between the preservation and spread of Sikhi, development of Sikh institutions, free practice of Sikhi etc. within Ranjit Singh's empire vs. outside of Ranjit Singh's empire? It doesn't seem like it.

It is puzzling why people portray Ranjit Singh's empire as having been so important to the Sikh cause. This portrayal does not seem to be grounded in facts, but rather sentimental revisionism.

Who gives a &lt;banned word filter activated&gt; about a bunch of rocks.