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  1. I think I maybe didn't express myself clearly here. I was just talking about how increasingly my vocab didn't help with bettering my relationship with certain family members - in that I thought being able to articulate my feelings more accurately would help. I don't think learning and improving my Gurmukhi language skills has been in vain at all. It's been majorly transformative to my life (for the better). In terms of knowledge and identity, it's taken me to a place I never knew before; given me knowledge and experiences I would not have been able to obtain otherwise. There is a LOT hidden from us that we discover, especially since the dominant Singh Sabha lehar of the last century felt compelled to hide quite a lot of stuff from the masses for whatever reason (come on, it was under the political/cultural influence of the colonialists at the time). I honestly can't figure out why anyone who has a genuine affinity with their faith/culture wouldn't want to do it themselves? But then I know that in certain respects I have been blessed in that I can study, I don't have any known learning difficulties and have always enjoyed reading since I was a child. It was a feeling that I was very proficient in English and needed a bigger challenge that played a big (but not only) part in my focusing on developing my Gurmukhi skills. It was like: "Well, I can read this Charles Dickens (and other) stuff even most English people around me seem to struggle with, and I love it. I wonder what is in my own culture?" Coming from a humble background made me feel that our culture (and consequently language) was somewhat simple and unsophisticated. If I didn't go through all the effort to improve my Gurmukhi and study, I'd still be under that illusion. What I've learnt from this is that our people have largely jettisoned our true, sophisticated, challenging, intellectual, literate culture - as given to us and developed by our Gurus (especially in the Dasam Granth) and early Singhs - and replaced it with the most base, simpleton facade of a 'culture' (and I use that word very loosely here!) that could only turn us into 1diots. And it shows, especially to outsiders...... and this explains A LOT of our problems. Nah, it's been science and maths. I couldn't teach English. By guileless I meant socially. Girls who struggle academically seem to get serious self-esteem issues and then turn on themselves and convince themselves they are stupid - and start playing up to this. But you can make big changes to this if you get to intervene early enough, and if the kids learning obstacles aren't too big. I think a lot of the girls are really closeted, and infantilized by their parents (a LOT of boys are too actually - puppoos). A lot of the conservative families are really....how can I put it.....bland. It's not really stimulating. To put it bluntly, the kids seem lulloofied compared to others. They just want to seem to belong and be accepted all the time - whilst other more streetwise kids couldn't give a toss. Even the mouthy girls, who go on like they have some strong personality - don't have real street acumen and are usually the first to end up with some tonday or whatnot. Guys pick up on their inflated egos and manipulate them - and it has to be said - Jut girls are the worse at this - I think it's because their egos have been blown out of proportion from all the buckwaas they hear from their families about how great they are. Also, instead of trying to form strong bonds with other apneean of other jaats in groups, they often try and exclude them or demean them, which starts messing with those girls self-esteem. So it's self-perpetuating. All of these girls seem totally unaware of the predatory nature of many males, and how other communities commonly try and compete and try and undermine each other - especially through females. Other girls seem more clued up about this aspect of social interaction and are wary about it. If one girl in group is wandering, the others pull her back in and prevent her doing a sl@ggy move. I keep saying it but people don't want to hear it. I do believe it's because rural simpleton barn-dance culture has been made to replace all the sophisticated, social, political, military, spiritual stuff in the Dasam Granth or say Prem Sumarag. I think that was one of the points of these granth - to make us not like exactly how we are today. I think the promotion of that simpleton culture itself has its antecedents in the colonialist period, where goray (for obvious reasons) where very keen to have Singhs move away from the self-empowering, militant faith of Sikhi and have them working on farms (which made a fortune for goray). A sort of facsimile of Sikhi called Sikhism, which is nothing like SIkhi outside of superficial external appearances - was promoted instead. That thing is weak and has all manner of outside protestant, casteist, racialised, victorian prudery embedded within. CP in DG says something like that. That loved up women are unable to tell what is good for them and what isn't. Women are intrinsically emotional and 'relational' creatures. Feeling something that makes them feel warm, loved and fuzzy inside is like crack to a crack addict to them. Men of other cultures know this, and know how to fake that bond with these girls to reel them in. Our lot routinely go like lambs to the slaughter to this. Again it's that social lullooness. It looks like it stems from infantilizing and having a serious taboo about sexual matters in our community to me? And this prudishness is obviously not part of Sikhi because look at CP! Older apneean don't help either. You'd have thought that they would have been at the forefront of preparing young girls for the world in these matters, but I don'tr know what buckwaas preoccupies their heads to the extent that they totally forget to do this? Probably to busy thinking about the shiney shoes and suits they want to buy for the next wedding they are going to or something? That's all its dwindled down to right now. Showing off. Being an an egotistical bubble whilst all manner of evil crap is surrounding and trying to eat away at your community. Apathy on a community level. And that rural caste thing of status and petty one-upmanship on each other plays a big part in this too. People need to keep it real and face up to these things or we'll never deal with them.
  2. dallysingh101

    ISIS: Returning to the West

    I hear you. but I think the recent cases where people have been stripped of citizenship have involved people with dual nationalities. There was one of them grooming nonces that they said was going to be deported back to p'stan after he'd done his sentence (he'd just relatively recently been made a citizen from naturalisation). Another British grooming pak who'd run away before he could be sentenced was arrested in p'stan and is awaiting deportation back here to serve their sentence. You're right, there is no telling where this will go, and how successive governments might use this to please an increasingly right-wing proletariat or get rid of people who are inconvenient to them. It just boils back to what Deepa, the late Jagraj Singh etc. have been saying about the system going to try and take liberties where they feel they can, especially with communities who they perceive to have no teeth to bite back when attacked......
  3. dallysingh101

    ISIS: Returning to the West

    Some common sense from the government at long last! Shamima Begum stripped of her British citizenship. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6720367/Shamima-Begum-expect-spoken-returns-UK-police-chief.html#comments Now Britain needs to keep those other rapist-jihadis from coming back here (why ain't they being given the shaheedi they so desire in Syria?). Like we don't have enough to deal with with the ones that are already sneaking around here.
  4. dallysingh101

    Sikh Youth Show with special guest Sarbjit Singh (RajoanaTV)

    This might be where we are going wrong. It's analogous to pendus fighting abroad in foreign wars, oblivious to ground level shifts going on at home until it was too late - which was apnays situation at partition. I don't think Brits abroad doing charity is ever what it claims to be anyway. Everyone knows these big 'charity' organisations have a horde of middle class 'board managers' who take the lion's share of contribution as wages. What's the point of trying to be global heroes when we have serious issues under our own noses?
  5. dallysingh101

    Sikh Youth Show with special guest Sarbjit Singh (RajoanaTV)

    I get what you're saying. We could go even further and say within Britain itself regional differences play a part in this rub off. For example, for many who've grown up here, I'd say that indigenous E. London attitude of having a healthy suspicion of authority can rub off, which then gets compounded by actual experiences with these structures - usually low-key racist ones. Then you can go up the road and see something totally different. To me it's a simple matter of some people being 'clued up' about reality and some being in a bubble.
  6. dallysingh101

    Sikh Youth Show with special guest Sarbjit Singh (RajoanaTV)

    I liked the mentioning of Baba Gurbaksh Singh, and Mehtab and Sukha Singh. I wonder if the younger generation grow up hearing about these Singhs?
  7. dallysingh101

    Sikh Youth Show with special guest Sarbjit Singh (RajoanaTV)

    I think for the intelligent amongst us, it's deeper than that - it's not exactly the influence of the broader national mentality, but actually a comprehension of this, and how it has affected Sikhs historically (in the run up to and after the dubious 'annexation') and with the politics that has been played with us in contemporary times. Understanding the policies enacted after the annexation (i.e. demilitarisation leading to Sikhs adopting symbolic rather than functional weapons, a change to indigenous cultural/educational practices, racialised/polarising identity/language politics); partition; the surreptitious support in 84 which only became apparent decades afterwards; the determined and persistent obfuscation of the grooming issue by the police and governmental agencies. People who are becoming aware of these things on a holistic level are seeing things in a new light. Or more accurately, they are actually seeing things for what they are/were outside of the motivated narratives that have traditionally been wrapped around these issues, which presume we are a slow witted people.
  8. dallysingh101

    Sikh Youth Show with special guest Sarbjit Singh (RajoanaTV)

    I'm not against Sikhi saroop at all. I am against people wearing it, acting all sanctimonious but then who conveniently jettison all instructions to be physically ready to protect your community like proper cowards. I'd say that the odds are that you you're one of these yourself? Now I understand if someone has medical conditions and whatnot that prevent them. But most don't fall in this category. It's just plain laziness and cowardice. A khota hiding underneath a tiger's skin (as our Guru so aptly demonstrated).
  9. As a community, we just seem to accept and incorporate more and more bewakoof cheejan into our culture, as the years go by. Surely carrying on like this isn't going to end well. Btw I think the women did do giddha like that (I remember from when I was a kid), they just did it in groups of other women though (maybe with kids around).
  10. dallysingh101

    Were your ancestors farmers?

    If the type of jut stupidity being discussed only affected juts, no one would give a toss. But that ridiculously clownish 'Balle Balle' image being projected has now become synonymous with Sikhs in general. It seems that left to themselves, juts would turn a blind eye to all of their fellow people's kartootan through some twisted notion of caste loyalty. Well, someone has to show them the mirror. Maybe if I came from this background, I wouldn't want to face the truth myself? All this stuff makes us look like a comical quom. And I know a lot of you can see this too. Don't just ignore it or play it down. Confront it.
  11. dallysingh101

    Sikh Youth Show with special guest Sarbjit Singh (RajoanaTV)

    I think people in the UK are getting more and more clued up. Those previous posts in the thread were from a US SIkh and one from NZ. God knows where their heads are at?
  12. dallysingh101

    Were your ancestors farmers?

    Jutts should do a lot more to try and counter this stuff amongst themselves - for all our sakes - not least yourselves! We all know most ahhm juts usually don't think anyone one else's opinion is worth a toss, so it isn't worth anyone else telling them. Those of you who are progressive and not backwards need to work on your own subcommunity a lot more. A lot is at stake. You can't just let this rot slide unchecked. That is going to be catastrophic in the long term.
  13. dallysingh101

    Sikh Youth Show with special guest Sarbjit Singh (RajoanaTV)

    I understand your point. I feel the same when I see some clearly weak-willed, dorking looking kesh-dhari/amritdhari bloke. It's like they've totally ignored all hukams to be tyar-bar-tyar and physically active and hide behind their physical appearance. The worse one is when I get on the tube in the early mornings when very few nonwhites are about, and some dorky looking keshdhari bloke goes from looking nervous and ill at ease to ecstatic now that he isn't alone in the train carriage. And these guys are trying to be the modern incarnations of warrior Singhs of the past......yeh sure. .... In anycase, so I take it you think the presenter was some sort of muppet for interviewing this guy, despite the presenter and his organisation doing more to save vulnerable members of our community, and actually taking risks in confronting the establishment here than I would imagine 2000 people like yourselves could ever do even collectively? Anyone from the UK have an opinion?
  14. dallysingh101

    Were your ancestors farmers?

    Are you missing the point? This is mainstream Panjabi culture now. People have already been complaining that juts fill their children's' heads' up with nonsense as it is. Now what do you think the consequences of having a generation of jut kids growing up watching this nonsense is going to be? Well, we'll find out in about 10/15 years from when they start moving into adulthood. Personally I don't think it is going to be good - do you?
  15. Some pak said to me 15 years ago (mockingly). "You play a dhol and you get a queue of sardars following you about dancing!" Thing is, it's true. And I think that's what happens when you push simple, rural culture over more sophisticated forms of culture on to the masses for decades. Apnay promoted this bhangra, drinking live-it-up lifestyle, and I'm not being judgemental, because under the force of normative behaviour (i.e. what almost everyone else appeared to be doing), even I thought it was what we do as a people when I was younger. It's only reflection, being made aware of the link to grooming and years of studying more sophisticated and intellectual (and spiritual) things that have enabled me to see things differently. What chance does the ahhhm pendu have?

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