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wait wait wait are you some members of the forum now suggesting that a jot is now not required when holding an akhand paath or sahaj paath? Do you lot want to get rid of anything alse? How about the jal kept close by to maharaj whilst the gurbani is being read?

Ghabroo Khalistan, if you visit the Nanaksar Samadh of Baba Nand Singh Ji and Baba Ishar Singh Ji you will see the aarti. Also you live in the uk. Go to Nanakasar Thath in Wolves on a puranmashi and you will see it. Also how can you say that Nirmalas, Udasis and sewapanthis are sects like Nihangs. Not breakaways. If so Guru Gobind Singh Ji would have written them out of the panth like the ram raiyas, minas, masands. If the nihangs are not breakaway then why do they perform aarti and the whole of hazoor sahib maryada is the same as their maryada! Chatanga i have been to Nanaksar ever since i was a child at Wolves. i have took part in plucking the petals on the flowers for the aarti. Watch Baba Amar Singh Ji when they perform the Aarti. If not ask the sevadars!!! Modern day jathas are the breakaways not puratan maryadas and jathas which existed at the times of the Gurus.

i think you belong to the small sect that do not like doing this. The sampardas of the nihangs, nirmalas, sewapanthis, udasis and at the places of sri guru gobind singh ji Aarti is performed. i believe this is the greater majority of the Sikhs. If you read gurbilas patshahi 6, Sri Sooraj Prakash and Panth Parkash you will see that the Guru's had aarti performed to them. if you need a copy of the sri sooraj prakash then you can find it on www.ik13.com Another thing what about all the other numerous gurdwaras that perform the aarti aarta paath daily and thrown flowers in the direction of Guru Sahib and spray rose water in the divan. You can see this in all of the Nanaksar Samparda. Should this be stopped as i am sure you will find some reason to say it it froma cult or from some sort of hindu tradition!

Below is a great video of Katha by Yugpursh Swami Parmanand which is at Nanaksar Thath Ishar Darbar in Delhi in 2005. The katha is brilliant and explains how to do simran in various ways using the Waheguru Mantar This is a very good video. Got lots others and books of Swami Jis talks. very good talks on Waheguru Simran The video can be found on the below link http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...14&hl=en-GB enjoy

I have 18 out of the 20 divans by Sant Ishar SIngh Ji which have been cleaned up. I hope if time allows to put them all on the net. So far i have only got the first four up. Please watch them on the links below Divan 01 Sakhi_Baba_Amardas_Ji_(Sarmad_Fakir) http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...61&hl=en-GB Divan 02 Vol_02_-_Baba_Farid_Ji http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...99&hl=en-GB Divan 03 Vol_03_-_Guru_Amardas_Ji http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...69&hl=en-GB Divan 04 Vol_04_-_Anga_Di_Safalta_(Raja_Aj). http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...70&hl=en-GB more to come

More Katha on the Waheguru Mantar by Sant Hari Singh Ji. Also included in these are techings on Gurmat, doing parkarma, and the Gurfateh. Please take you time to listen to these as i really recommend that you will learn something Katha_03-09-2007_-_Ik_Ghari_Adhee_Gharee http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...88&hl=en-GB Katha_04-09-2007_-_Waheguru_Gur_Shabad_Hai http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...92&hl=en-GB Katha_05-09-2007_-_Waheguru_Gurmantar_Hai_Jap_Houmai_Khoi http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...49&hl=en-GB Katha_06-09-2007_-_Tarik_Mantar_Hai_Waheguru http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...73&hl=en-GB Enjoy

can i ask who else you consider cults as nirmalas, nihangs, sewapanthis and udasis also do aarti in this form which i have seen many times

FOr a start they are not Naamdharis but Neeldharis. There is a difference. It is no different to the Aarti done at Sri Hazoor Sahib. They are paying devotion to the teachings given to them by God and nothing else. There is no difference between the Guru and God. They pay devotion to the Gur Shabad aspect of God I dont see what they are doing wrong. i have never seen a protest against the puratan maryada that is done at Sri Hazoor Sahib where Aarti is done in the exact same way.

sunny rather then listening to it in sreaming you can download it from www.gurmatveechar.com the kata is from the sri sooraj prakash

for the videos go onto google video and type inb "sant Hari Singh" YOu will get two videos of a discussion between them and Sant Nihal Singh Ji Harianvela Walae against the excommunicated Kala Afgana. Also you will get three videos of a debate between Sant Hari Singh Ji and Kala Afganas chele. These videos are entitles Gurmat Ansaar Nirnay. However if you are a Kala Afgana supporter i am guessing you will not show these videos.

how abotu you let him watch the videos on google video by sant hari singh ji answering all the skeptical questions put to them by kala afganas supporters

First of all Lakh Lakh Vadaiya on the Gurpurb of the first parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. On this gurpurb i have been able to upload 2 lots of katha by Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawae Walae on the first parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji which was recorded in 2006. The videos can be found below Katha 29/08/2006 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...37&hl=en-GB Katha 30/08/2006 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...72&hl=en-GB enjoy

Below are a number of videos by kathakaar from Damdami Taksal on the barsi of Sant Kartar Singh Ji Bhindrawalae. This programme took place at Gurdwara Baba Sang in Smethick Birmingham Katha by Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawae Walae http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...34&hl=en-GB Katha by Bhai Balbir Singh Ji Damdami Taksal http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...46&hl=en-GB Katha by Bhai Satnam Singh Ji Damdami Taksal http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...80&hl=en-GB Katha by Bhai Lakhvinder SIngh Ji Damdami Taksal http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...18&hl=en-GB Katha by Giani Preetam Singh Ji Damdami Taksal http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...41&hl=en-GB enjoy

i will be posting a number of videos regarding the Waheguru Mantar Katha which has been done recently by Sant HAri Singh Ji Randhawae Walae. The katha is the only i have had so far but there are another 6 videos. just need to get hold of them. The Katha is very interesting well worth listening too. Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...32&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...92&hl=en-GB Part 03 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...48&hl=en-GB Enjoy

Below are two videos of Sant Hari Singh Ji Randhawae Walae doing Katha from the Sri Sooraj Prakash Katha regarding Koulan Da Parsang. This is actually really interesting about who Koulan really was rather then what is said by todays parcharaks Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...31&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...63&hl=en-GB enjoy

Great library in Leicester at Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara on East Park Road

download it in pdf form on www.gurmat.info it can be found under publications along with Bhai Gurdas Di Kabit

Khalistan Zindabaad what did you like abotu Bhai Satnam Singh's katha. Unfortunatly on the night i did not think they did themselves justice. Sant Hari Singh Ji said so as well. Although i think Bhai Satnam Singh is a great parcharak as the one tape on gurmatveechar will show his depth of knowledge. I heard there is a Giani called Jathedar Resham Singh in Birmingham that has a load of katha recordings by Bhai Satnam Singh. Do you know who this person is and if possible he is willing to give copies to put on the net. I will have the videos of the Barsi up on google video soon

Below are three linked videos which can be found on google video of a divan i recorded on the request of Sant Hari Singh. The Divan is Katha Keertan by Sant Gurdial Singh Ji Tande Walae. I have not seen them before other then in books by Sant Davinder Singh Ji Nirmala. I must say after listening to the divan i was impressed and enjoyed the divan. The videos of the divan can be found on the three links below Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...81&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...24&hl=en-GB Part 03 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...44&hl=en-GB Enjoy

A quick thing this thread has 5 videos on it which can be found on google video of the 400 year gurpurb of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji at Sri Harmandir Sahib. They can be viewed from the links below Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...34&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...43&hl=en-GB Part 03 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...55&hl=en-GB Part 04 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...90&hl=en-GB Part 05 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...21&hl=en-GB Enjoy

A quick post to show a link on google video of the Kar Seva at Sri harmandir Sahib in 2004. The link is shown below http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...36&hl=en-GB enjoy

A quick thing a number of divans have now een put up onto google video by Sant Bhupinder SIngh Ji Jarg Walae. The divans and link are below: Sakhi Bhagat Jalan Ji Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...54&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...74&hl=en-GB Sakhi Sada Jag Nahi Rehina Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...41&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...48&hl=en-GB Part 03 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...53&hl=en-GB Sakhi Shah Sikandar Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...31&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...27&hl=en-GB Rehit Maryada Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...48&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...43&hl=en-GB Nashia Da Augun Part 01 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...30&hl=en-GB Part 02 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...24&hl=en-GB enjoy

that is the Giani Thakur Singh Ji Katha which can be found on www.gurmatveechar.com or www.sfsikhcenter.com

Barsi programme was very good. Amazing Katha by Sant Hari Singh and Bhai Balbir Singh Ji. Recordings have been made and will be on the net when time allows Wish more of you could have attended

i have both her jap ji sahib and jaap sahib katha. very very good. thanks to namstang he has uploaded the jap ji sahib for all to hears. i suggest you hear just the first hour and if you find a problem then bring it up. i am hoping nastang will upload the jaap sahib off me as well as it is brilliant