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Everyone is God as there is only 1 nirgun form.

When i was ignorant doing ardaas and saying prayers felt like a protective blanket. False hope.. Better to accept pana 100%.

I wish there was free will then I would be able to achieve a lot more. If we had free will ardaas would be worth doing... Cos u dont have free will folks remain detached otherwise God will smack u on the face. If you remain detached the smacks won't mean much.

Dasam granth rejects them on the basis that people worshiped them as God and were too focused on their body form and forgetting the formless lord. The same is happening to the sikhs. Guru Gobind singh even said if you call me god you will be thrown to the pits of hell!

When i say there is no free will thatmeans we dont have any control at all. Then do we exist as separate beings? That means only God is and nothing else. So really God is doing everything to himself so he is not unfair at all or evil or good. There has to be some other to say he is bad. I only write from ego persepctive because if i wrote from a non dual approach no one would understand. Aim of gurbani is to understand that there is only god and to understand ur ego is a ghost. So my thesis isnt biased but i make it seem biased so others can follow what i am saying.There is no free will. karma is unlimited the universe has always been there have been unlimited amount of big bangs and big crunches. There never was a start point. You describe an unjust god because if there was a starting point in karma then everyone must of been good to start of with. Then who made them do the bad action because obvs they didnt have any bad karma to do them. Who gave them those negative thougts to carry out those actions?

Then let the mirrors reflect nothing back.

Still where please elaborate?

That is right!!! you finally got it... You got it:)

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ੴ सतिगुर प्रसादि ॥ Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯgur parsāḏ. One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਬਾਜੀਗਰਿ ਜੈਸੇ ਬਾਜੀ ਪਾਈ ॥ बाजीगरि जैसे बाजी पाई ॥ Bājīgar jaise bājī pā▫ī. The actor stages the play, ਨਾਨਾ ਰੂਪ ਭੇਖ ਦਿਖਲਾਈ ॥ नाना रूप भेख दिखलाई ॥ Nānā rūp bẖekẖ ḏikẖlā▫ī. playing the many characters in different costumes; ਸਾਂਗੁ ਉਤਾਰਿ ਥੰਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਿਓ ਪਾਸਾਰਾ ॥ सांगु उतारि थम्हिओ पासारा ॥ Sāʼng uṯār thamiĥa▫o pāsārā. but when the play ends, he takes off the costumes, ਤਬ ਏਕੋ ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੧॥ तब एको एकंकारा ॥१॥ Ŧab eko ekankārā. ||1|| and then he is one, and only one. ||1|| ਕਵਨ ਰੂਪ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿਓ ਬਿਨਸਾਇਓ ॥ कवन रूप द्रिसटिओ बिनसाइओ ॥ Kavan rūp ḏaristi▫o binsā▫i▫o. How many forms and images appeared and disappeared? ਕਤਹਿ ਗਇਓ ਉਹੁ ਕਤ ਤੇ ਆਇਓ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ कतहि गइओ उहु कत ते आइओ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Kaṯėh ga▫i▫o uho kaṯ ṯe ā▫i▫o. ||1|| rahā▫o. Where have they gone? Where did they come from? ||1||Pause|| ਜਲ ਤੇ ਊਠਹਿ ਅਨਿਕ ਤਰੰਗਾ ॥ जल ते ऊठहि अनिक तरंगा ॥ Jal ṯe ūṯẖėh anik ṯarangā. Countless waves rise up from the water. ਕਨਿਕ ਭੂਖਨ ਕੀਨੇ ਬਹੁ ਰੰਗਾ ॥ कनिक भूखन कीने बहु रंगा ॥ Kanik bẖūkẖan kīne baho rangā. Jewels and ornaments of many different forms are fashioned from gold. ਬੀਜੁ ਬੀਜਿ ਦੇਖਿਓ ਬਹੁ ਪਰਕਾਰਾ ॥ बीजु बीजि देखिओ बहु परकारा ॥ Bīj bīj ḏekẖi▫o baho parkārā. I have seen seeds of all kinds being planted - ਫਲ ਪਾਕੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੨॥ फल पाके ते एकंकारा ॥२॥ Fal pāke ṯe ekankārā. ||2|| when the fruit ripens, the seeds appear in the same form as the original. ||2|| ਸਹਸ ਘਟਾ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਆਕਾਸੁ ॥ सहस घटा महि एकु आकासु ॥ Sahas gẖatā mėh ek ākās. The one sky is reflected in thousands of water jugs, ਘਟ ਫੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਓਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸੁ ॥ घट फूटे ते ओही प्रगासु ॥ Gẖat fūte ṯe ohī pargās. but when the jugs are broken, only the sky remains. ਭਰਮ ਲੋਭ ਮੋਹ ਮਾਇਆ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥ भरम लोभ मोह माइआ विकार ॥ Bẖaram lobẖ moh mā▫i▫ā vikār. Doubt comes from greed, emotional attachment and the corruption of Maya. ਭ੍ਰਮ ਛੂਟੇ ਤੇ ਏਕੰਕਾਰ ॥੩॥ भ्रम छूटे ते एकंकार ॥३॥ Bẖaram cẖẖūte ṯe ekankār. ||3|| Freed from doubt, one realizes the One Lord alone. ||3||

Bro you have got it!!! No one seems to understand.. but you know:) Ades tisae ades

More importantly who are you?! Define your existance and control?!

Remember is to know yourself.. Its unfortunate people think they have been separated from God that is it... There are a few pangtis in gurbani use sikhi to the max. Karam sukaram aap karain keemat kon apeva. There are loads like that. When i say there is no free will thatmeans we dont have any control at all. Then do we exist as separate beings? That means only God is and nothing else. So really God is doing everything to himself so he is not unfair at all or evil or good. There has to be some other to say he is bad. I only write from ego persepctive because if i wrote from a non dual approach no one would understand. Aim of gurbani is to understand that there is only god and to understand ur ego is a ghost. So my thesis isnt biased but i make it seem biased so others can follow what i am saying. There is no free will. karma is unlimited the universe has always been there have been unlimited amount of big bangs and big crunches. There never was a start point. You describe an unjust god because if there was a starting point in karma then everyone must of been good to start of with. Then who made them do the bad action because obvs they didnt have any bad karma to do them. Who gave them those negative thougts to carry out those actions?

How is it bad... For sikhs kureits are deemed bad but for others it ain't. Its not in your hands to do bad or good. Naam happens 24/7 bro.God guides me all the time. God stops me from drinking, hving pre marital sex, eating meat, I even know the 5 main bania by heart and sukhmani sahib by heart. What does that mean? Nothing! A person who sleeps around, drinks, goes clubbing is just the same as me. Sometimes God "messes me up" some times God gives "comforts and gifts". Break my preset assumptions then by using facts.

Not faking thankyou:)

Waheguru is amused got to accept his pana. Akhel kelan aant ko fir ek