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at 1:50 ^ Just look at that picture of Kp gills - NOW that is one scary ugly looking face! What has he done to his lips LOOOOOOL!!

Simran345, its good you do seva. Continue doing it. You're right non-Amritdhari and Amritdhari are not perfect, which is why we do seva and abhiyaas of Naam and Gurbani to become virtuous.

The gist behind Guru Granth Sahib jee has seriously been missed. Faith + Listening + Love of Naam (Vaheguru mantar) produces EXPERIENCE. Also, Naam produces Gyaan (knowledge) and Budh (intelligence). The intelligence some of you are talking about is not intelligence, but the ability to know and do more than what an animal can. Intelligence comes from knowing your source/origin (God) and by taking birth with karams of compassion, charity, good deeds, reciting naam (from another religion) until Vaheguru leads that person to Guru Nanak and then on top of that inspires that Sikh to never forget God. Sikhs need to grow their Naam and Gurbani Abhiyaas so that they can erase their mayl which will enable them to experience spirituality. Those who have not experienced God should not assume God doesnt exist. Your doubt exists due to being entrapped in the power of Ego which has entangled you in Maya/illusion, thus your ego blinds you to the extent that you only believe what you perceive through these worldly senses. The ego is such that it does not want to believe anything else except for what it knows through Maya. The karams are to blame, as we continued this doubt and love for Maya. ਦੇਂਦੇ ਥਾਵਹੁ ਦਿਤਾ ਚੰਗਾ ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਐਸਾ ਜਾਣੀਐ ॥ They prefer the gift, instead of the Giver; such is the way of the self-willed manmukhs. ਸੁਰਤਿ ਮਤਿ ਚਤੁਰਾਈ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਕਿਆ ਕਰਿ ਆਖਿ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ ॥ What can anyone say about their intelligence, their understanding or their cleverness? God purposely stays hidden to test his creation. Vaheguru/Guru Nanak is a diamond and diamonds are rare to find. He is only found through Gur Shabad, which is the Vaheguru mantar. ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਮਹੀਅਲਿ ਗੁਪਤੋ ਵਰਤੈ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੀ ਦੇਖਿ ਨਿਹਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ In the water, on the land, and in the sky, He is pervading but hidden; through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, He is revealed. ||Pause|| When we experience God, this is personal, but it is not personal to another who is Gurmukh too as they both can share spirituality. It is up to the Gurmukh if they want any one else to experience spirituality, if they do they will only for that person who is innocent like a child. The one under the power of Ego is bound by it until Vaheguru himself does kirpa - ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਇਆ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਗਇਆ ॥ In ego they come, and in ego they go. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਜੰਮਿਆ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਮੁਆ ॥ In ego they are born, and in ego they die. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਦਿਤਾ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਲਇਆ ॥ In ego they give, and in ego they take. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਖਟਿਆ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਗਇਆ ॥ In ego they earn, and in ego they lose. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਸਚਿਆਰੁ ਕੂੜਿਆਰੁ ॥ In ego they become truthful or false. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ In ego they reflect on virtue and sin. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਅਵਤਾਰੁ ॥ In ego they go to heaven or hell. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਹਸੈ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਰੋਵੈ ॥ In ego they laugh, and in ego they weep. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਭਰੀਐ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਧੋਵੈ ॥ In ego they become dirty, and in ego they are washed clean. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਾਤੀ ਜਿਨਸੀ ਖੋਵੈ ॥ In ego they lose social status and class. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਸਿਆਣਾ ॥ In ego they are ignorant, and in ego they are wise. ਮੋਖ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਕੀ ਸਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ They do not know the value of salvation and liberation. ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਛਾਇਆ ॥ In ego they love Maya, and in ego they are kept in darkness by it. ਹਉਮੈ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਜੰਤ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ Living in ego, mortal beings are created. ਹਉਮੈ ਬੂਝੈ ਤਾ ਦਰੁ ਸੂਝੈ ॥ When one understands ego, then the Lord's gate is known. ਗਿਆਨ ਵਿਹੂਣਾ ਕਥਿ ਕਥਿ ਲੂਝੈ ॥ Without spiritual wisdom, they babble and argue. ਨਾਨਕ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਲਿਖੀਐ ਲੇਖੁ ॥ O Nanak, by the Lord's Command, destiny is recorded. It is not a difficult task to experience God. The term Evidence is used by the ego due to the influence of Maya. In a world of Maya, the only evidence will be within Maya. However, if the people of the world became a Khalsa then there will be no Maya and evidence of God will by perceived naturally by all. For the Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Athiest, Buddhist, Doubter and Egoist, God is beyond them - vyd kqybhu bwhrw lyK AlyK n liKAw jweI] God is beyond Vedas and Katebas (Holy books of Semitic religions) and He cannot be visualized. rUpu AnUpu Acrju hY drsnu idRsit Agocr BweI] His form is grand and awe-inspiring. He is beyond the reach of body organs. ieku kvwau pswau kir qolu n qulwDwr n smweI] He created this cosmos by His one big bang which cannot be weighed on any scale. kQnI bdnI bwhrw QkY sbdu suriq ilv lweI] He is indescribable and many a man in order to reach Him has got tired by putting their consciousness into the Word. mn bc krm Agocrw miq buiD swiD ik soJI Qik pweI] Being beyond the ken of mind, speech, and action, the wisdom, intellect and all practices have also left hope of catching hold of Him. ACl ACyd AByd hY Bgiq vClu swDsMgiq CweI] Undeceivable, beyond time and non dual, the Lord is kind to devotees and pervades through the Holy Congregation. vfw Awip vfI vifAweI ]16] He is great and His grandeur is also great. (16) http://www.sikhitoth...p?ShabadID=5707

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I agree, I believe that growth for Sikhs is only based on Spiritual Growth. It might sound unimaginable how someone can grow spiritually, but through continuous abhiyaas on Naam and Gurbani we develop guns (virtues). Naam and Gurbani is what made Sant Jarnail Singh what he is, same goes for Baba Deep Singh and Banda Singh Bahadur. All the qualities they possess has come from making all kinds of effort with Gurbania and Naam. Did you know that writing Gurbani/Guns is a rehit/hukam from Guru Granth Sahib Jee because it increases spirituality fast, why do you think Baba Deep Singh Jee was so POWERFUL? That's the Paras Kala of Gurbani and Naam that by touching it again and again we become gods - ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਗੁਰ ਆਪਣੇ ਦਿਉਹਾੜੀ ਸਦ ਵਾਰ ॥ A hundred times a day, I am a sacrifice to my Guru; ਜਿਨਿ ਮਾਣਸ ਤੇ ਦੇਵਤੇ ਕੀਏ ਕਰਤ ਨ ਲਾਗੀ ਵਾਰ ॥੧॥ He made gods out of men, without delay. ||1||

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Innergear, let me answer your question. iz bogus iz wong anz poopoo dees daz juz wnz ickscuzez to hav loz galfend aanz bois. If you didnt understand me theres something seriously wrong with u loool :biggrin2:

Here is the website for the ransubayee kirtan, at some of these they hold a amrit sanchar - http://www.akj.org/skins/one/programs.php?countryid=4 They especially have one at their international ones, however they do not announce all of the amrit sanchars. So, you could call the contact numbers for each of the ransubayee?

Of course you can go to the Gurdwara and you can do seva too. Guru Sahib has never said a woman cannot do seva due to her period. It's natural for women to get this.

lol sorry, thought you were. Anyway, what you have said is true.

In the shabad which you have as your signature, it says 'One who calls himself a Sikh of the True Guru (Satguru), shall rise in the early morning and meditate on the Lord's Name'. Guru Arjun Dev jee is the same as Guru Gobind Singh Jee. So, Guru Gobind Singh Jee says God's Name is Vaheguru and we are only to recite Vaheguru - vwihgurU guru mMqR su jwp kr iesnwn pVHY jpu jwpu ]] vaahiguroo gur ma(n)thr s jaap kar eisanaan parrhai jap jaap |||| Repeat the Mantra of the Guru 'Vaheguru'. Take your bath and then read your morning prayers. Rehatnama Bhai Nand Laal Jee and vwihgurU gurmMqR hY jip haumY KoeI] vaahiguroo gurama(n)thr hai jap houmai khoee|| His Guru-mantar is Vaheguru, whose recitation erases egotism Bhai Gurdas Jee Gurbani says following Guru Sahib's teachings allows you to find Vaheguru and without his teachings we cannot, so the above line here states Vaheguru is the GURMANTAR, WHICH REMOVES HAUMAI. So, without the Gurmantar we cannot find Vaheguru. and lastly - siq nwm krqw purKu vwihgurU ivic irdY smwey] sath naam karathaa purakh vaahiguroo vich ridhai samaaeae|| By its grace the True named creator Lord, Vaheguru, comes to reside in the heart. Bhai Gurdas Jee Vaar The start of Guru Granth Sahib Jee begins with Sat Nam Karta Purakh too and this above line explains what the Sat Nam of Karta Purakh is, which is Vaheguru. So, whoever does not recite Vaheguru is not a Sikh (true devotee) of Satguru (Vaheguru/Guru Nanak/Guru Gobind Singh), which clears this up too - ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਿਨੈ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖਹੁ ਮਨਿ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥ Without the True Guru, no one has found Him; reflect upon this in your mind and see. According to you and others who claim that other religions take you directly to God, Vaheguru must have sent Guru Sahib onto earth for no reason and Guru Sahib and all his Gursikha sacrificed their lives for nothing. I do not wish to carry on with this debate now! As long as you're amritdhari, japping Naam and following all of Guru Sahib's rehita thats fine; you can believe what you like.

No one should be bound by the teachings of anyone except for Guru Sahib. Regarding the rehitnama of there being 25 Singhs, if that really is a rehit made by Gursikhs of Guru Sahib's time then I believe it is refering to Singhnia too. Otherwise, it can be made up in recent times. A lot of false things have been introduced recently such as Akal Takht has made the wearing of a dastar optional for women. Now, if that rehitnama (25 Singhs) is true and made by a Gursikh in Guru Sahib's time then Singhs can also refer to Singhnia. For instance, some rehita refer to men but they can be applied to women - mWie BYx jo AwvY sMgiq idRSit burI dyKy iqs pMgiq ] maa(n)e bhain jo aavai sa(n)gath dhrishatt buree dhaekhae this pa(n)gath || Great sinners are those who cast evil eyes on women who enter the Sangat and do not treat them as mothers and sisters. Rehatnama Bhai Nand Laal Jee and isMG isMG pr SsqR n kry ] jwn gurU Kwlsy qy fry]43] si(n)gh si(n)gh par shasathr n karae || jaan guroo khaalasae thae ddarae||43|| A Sikh should never attack another Sikh. He should recognise others as the Guru Khalsa and should remain fearful of them. Rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh This is what Bhai Gurdas Jee states in his Vaaran about those who become a Panj - prmysr hY pMj imil lyK AlyK n kImiq pweI] paramaesar hai pa(n)j mil laekh alaekh n keemath paaee|| Where the five persons sit together, Lord God, is there, this mystery of indescribably Lord cannot be known. pMj imly prpMc qij Anhd sbd sbid ilv lweI] pa(n)j milae parapa(n)ch thaj anehadh sabadh sabadh liv laaee|| But only those five meet (to sit together) who repudiating hypocrisy have merged their consciousness in the unstruck melody of the Word. http://www.sikhitoth...p?ShabadID=6196 and ieku isKu duie swD sMgu pMjIN prmysru] eik sikh dhue saadhh sa(n)g pa(n)jee paramaesaru|| One is a Sikh, two the Congregation and in five resides God http://www.sikhitoth...p?ShabadID=5849 So, you have shown lack of understanding in Guru Sahib's rehita. If what you said was true and it only means Singhs (men) then Bhai Gurdas Jee would have made that significantly clear! So, the rehit is refering to both Singhs and Singhnia when it says 25 Singhs!

Well said Mokham Singh ji. Firstly, I pronounce it like this Vaaheguroo with the technique of Saas Giraas given by my panj; I think vaavaa is the right way but anyone else might say differently. Secondly, the most important thing in order to remove any disease is to possess faith and love for Naam and Gurbani. Once you have come to love Naam through Gurbani, the Naam will then instantly calm, cool and sooth the body - ਜਾ ਕਉ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਦੇਹੀ ਵਿਆਪੈ ਰੋਗੁ ॥ When you are plagued by great and excessive anxiety, and diseases of the body; ਗ੍ਰਿਸਤਿ ਕੁਟੰਬਿ ਪਲੇਟਿਆ ਕਦੇ ਹਰਖੁ ਕਦੇ ਸੋਗੁ ॥ when you are wrapped up in the attachments of household and family, sometimes feeling joy, and then other times sorrow; ਗਉਣੁ ਕਰੇ ਚਹੁ ਕੁੰਟ ਕਾ ਘੜੀ ਨ ਬੈਸਣੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ when you are wandering around in all four directions, and you cannot sit or sleep even for a moment - ਚਿਤਿ ਆਵੈ ਓਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਸੀਤਲੁ ਹੋਇ ॥੩॥ if you come to remember the Supreme Lord God, then your body and mind shall be cooled and soothed. ||3|| The chit (remembrance/suniyaa) has to be such that it has strong faith/belief/hope (maniya) and deep love within it. So, bani such as Sukhmani Sahib and/or Japji Sahib will boost this. Sukhmani Sahib because it emphasises on the Praise of Naam and the more one praises Naam the more love we will have for Naam, Thus we experience Naam's Power. So, continuously recite Sukhmani Sahib and then Jap Naam, back to Sukhmani Sahib and then Naam again (basically do a combination of them). Amritvela is one of the best times to do this, second best is the evening and all day long whenever you have time. Remember to try and keep Vaheguru in mind and tongue all, everyday. Lastly, Patience is important, you have to keep at (Amritvela, evening and Athay Pehar) it until you love Naam and then as Mokham Singh jee said, the Naam will begin japping inside itself without you doing anything.

ok veer ji, but the current issue in Darbar Sahib will not last. It will change in the future, a lot will change. Singhs who do possess hidden ego of inequality will regret it in the future and will become humbled due to seeing the power of singhnia. Guru Sahib will give Singhnia high honour in the future, which will be for those Singhnia who have high respect and love for Guru Sahib through immense Naam and Gurbani Abhiyaas. Regarding an elders opinion, elders/youngster Gursikh talk a lot about their own false views from lacking a Bhramgyan Bibek Budh. Any view I hear which does not show equality for Singhnia is wrong.