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Thought it was quite annoying that they didn't allow the Sakhi about maskeenia to be finished as the 'so called' Gurdwara important people wanted to wish the sangat happy new year therefore interuppting the sakhi. Can you please pm me a contact

Vaheguru If you know who did the kirtan on new years eve at Havelok Road please let me know It was shown on sangat tv Vaheguru

http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=172816 Big Business for the smugglers Good post Brainstorm on what we can do? A list of things would be good to start with e.g. Rehab Centre setup, Educational Songs, leaflets

Vaheguru Is this class being taught by Bhai Baldeep Singh from Birmingham sides?

Looking for something more on these lines Regular Katha – why bring in from outside where in house gianis should provide high level katha in house Santhiyaa – an essential service to the sangat to provide santhiyaa to current and next generation Promotion of Gurdwara in positive light therefore more sangat – doing things in the correct manner and with correct maryada Connecting the youth and older Generation through proper information, advice, guidance on daily issues/ sangat Trusted person that can be approached for Sikhi advice and who can help people take steps to progress in Sikhi Encourage people with wisdom

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Please give me some advice on what your opinion of the qualities a Giani in a Gurdwara should have. Please try not to go for obvious points such as Katha, Vichaar, Santhiyaa etc as these are covered already. Thank you for your input in this presentation and once complete will be shared with the Cyber sangat Vaheguru

"Pesh Kabz and Katar Punch Dagger. Both weapons are traditionally carried in the KamarKasa (waist sash) of Indian Warriors. Both weapons have bulbous tips to allow the peircing of armour and chain mail." Quoted SSingh

Fateh Hope you didn't pay much for it singh. It's not bad but poor handle. How do you find it to hold? From my very limited knowledge Pesh Kabz is armour piercing and close combat (obviously) Maybe the Akhara Singh can enlighten us further. You can find various history's about Pesh Kabz online I have seen Singhs double up the Pesh Kabz with a Katar (creating a right angle)and use it for defence and control of peoples arms/ bodies as it hooks - Deadly!

Fateh I wonder if we could get local media on it? Will find out

Anti-Sikh Riots 1984 Anti-Sikh Riots took place in India after the assassination of Indira Gandhi on October 31, 1984. India's Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was assassinated by two of her Sikh guards acting in the aftermath of Operation Bluestar. Over the next four days nearly 3000 Sikhs were massacred in systematic riots planned and led by Congress activists and sympathizers. The then Congress government was widely criticized for doing very little at the time, if not acting as a conspirator, especially since voting lists were used to identify Sikh families. The then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi, son of Indira Gandhi allegedly made a statement "When a big tree falls, the earth is bound to shake" on the Sikh carnage. His widow, Sonia Gandhi and current President of the Congress Party, officially apologized in 1998 for the events of November, 1984. The most affected regions were neighborhoods in Delhi. The Devil Of evil on peopleIt is alleged that the anti-Sikh violence were conducted at the behest of the Congress party who actually instigated masses. Many ordinary Indians of different religious dispositions made significant efforts to hide and help Sikh families as outlined in affidavits of Sikh victims and have been active in seeking appropriate justice Incident On November 1, 1984, a huge mob from the suburbs of Delhi descended on various localities where the Sikh were mainly concentrated. They carried iron rods, knives, clubs, and combustible material, including kerosene. They had voters' lists of houses and business establishments belonging to the Sikhs. The mobsters swarmed into Sikh homes. Sikh men, women and children were brutally killed. Their shops and houses were ransacked and burned. The mobsters stopped buses and trains, in and out of Delhi, pulling out Sikh passengers to be lynched or doused with kerosene and burnt. Victim Of RiotTimeline 9:20 AM: Indira Gandhi shot by two of her sikh security guards at her residence, No. 1 Safdarjung Road, and rushed to All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS). Around 10:50 AM: Indira Gandhi dies. [5][6] 11:00 AM: All India Radio listeners learn that two security guards who shot Indira Gandhi were Sikhs. 4:00 PM: Rajiv Gandhi returns from West Bengal and reaches AIIMS. Stray incidents of attacks in and around that area. 5:30 PM: The motorcade of President Zail Singh, who returned from a foreign visit, was stoned as it approached AIIMS. Late Evening and Night: Mobs fanned out in different directions from AIIMS. The violence against Sikhs spread, starting in the neighboring constituency of Congress Councillor Arjun Das. The violence included destruction of Sikh properties and takes place even in VIP areas such as in the vicinity of Prithviraj Road. Shortly after Rajiv Gandhi was sworn in, senior advocate and opposition leader, Ram Jethmalani, met Home Minister, P.V. Narasimha Rao and urged him to take immediate steps to save Sikhs from further attacks. Delhi's Lt. Governor, P.G. Gavai and Police Commissioner, S.C. Tandon, visited some of the violence affected areas. But no precautionary follow -up action was initiated. It was also alleged that Rajiv Gandhi deliberately delayed in calling in the Army, a move which many believe could have saved the lives of many. On the night of October 31st and morning of November 1st, several Congress leaders allegedly held meetings and mobilized support to launch a full scale assault against Delhi's Sikhs. Commission(s) of Enquiry Numerous commissions have been setup to investigate the riots, however, many of the primary accused were acquitted or never charge-sheeted. Ten commissions and committees have till now inquired into the riots. The most recent commission on the riots, headed by Justice G.T. Nanavati submitted its 185-page report to the Home Minister, Shivraj Patil on February 9, 2005 and the report was tabled in Parliament on August 8, 2005. The commissions below are listed in the order they were formed. Taken from Sikhnet

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Vaheguru ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ke Fateh I need some help installing Language convertor code into my website to convert all of the text and make it more accessible. Please help if you can.

We all know, Punjab is in a mess. We don't hear what goes on there on a daily basis so please post any stories you know of. Here are two from my family Today my cousin brother was stopped whilst riding his bike out of his Pindh. He was stopped by around 10 youth who demanded money. He had none so they beat him senseless and checked him. When they realised he had none they moved on. My Cousin sister who is married with kids and is a School Principle was attacked whilst going to the bank with the weekly school deposit. 3 youths wrapped some sort of material around her mouth and had a drug on it to knock her out. She luckily dizzly jumped onto another bus that took her out of Punjab while knocked out and into Delhi. When she woke up she made her way back to Punjab on the night bus and reached home safely. Luckily no money was stolen but as you know,this story could have ended a lot worse. People in Punjab say that things are terrible there and robberies are happening on daily basis. Just felt to share that with the Saadh Sangat Vaheguru ji Ka Khalsaa Vaheguru ji Fateh

Thats a great start. I will create one too called My Turban is my commitment to help humanity The other thing is, I dont see many Sikh people sitting on their computers making hate groups about other faiths, or articles of faith such as those little tiny hats that muslims wear or their orange beard or about christianity because we'er not low lifes like that Sorry if I sound annoyed but after seeing some of them groups I just get really upset People look at those groups and begin to see our Guru's dastaar in a very negative way Just my tuppence worth

I have an 19th century Pesh Kabz shastar for sale Original leather miaan For more info message me

People will disagree with this but I'm gonna suggest it I think we should counter the 1000s of anti turban groups on facebook with good ones and educating people on the beauty Create absolute loads If the Muslims want to carry on then do the same back until they remove the sikh ones Eg hide and sikh - inmy experience only one type of lowlife would say such a thing

Let's do the same to them

Vaheguru ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru ke Fateh Paaji thanks for the brilliant seva I was really after the first day of the two divaans. The friday night divaan Would you happen to have that one? Vaheguru

therefore early 84

We know that, that's why we're saying it's probably January/February time in 1984. Its defo 84 though as the evidence provided earlier in the topic

Baba Ranjeet Singh Wednesfield Aug 2010 Audio Does anybody have it or know where to get it Please Thanks

This video was shot in 1984 as this is when the swami vishnudevanada visited Amritsar on a peace mission See link below I feel that just because they have mensioned previous crimes doesn't mean they are crimes that just happened. That's my humble opinion http://www.sivananda.com.sg/newsletter/n_nov09.pdf

What an amazing find. Sant ji had some very intelligent translators/debaters around them. Does anybody know who they were and what happened to them? I also wonder what came of this Swami's attempt to bring Indira Ghandi to Amritsar to debate with Sant ji and the Singhs as they seemed very for the idea of an open debate.

Worked, brilliant thankyou