LostSoul

Firstly what evidence is there that ALL THE SINGHS kept this sarbloh bibek? Secondly, even if some, or even if the majority of the jujharoo Singhs kept this bibek how does that have any effect on what i was saying? Just because the majority of people do something does not make it right or true. Similarly, regardless how great a person may be, how supreme their sacrifices, or admirable their devotion, spirit and courage it does not change the fact that if they committed a mistake or had a false belief it remains as such. A wrong belief does not become a right simply because the person holding that belief is overall a great person. Everyone is prone to make mistakes. The majority of the people believe and practice whatever they have been taught by their local "elders" or "wise ones" they grew up around (e.g. babas, sants, sadhus etc.). This does not necessarily imply that what they were taught by these people was in accordance with the teachings of gurmat. Only way we can be sure of that is to analyze their actions and beliefs according to gurbani itself. And im sorry to say, that no where does bani say that eating out of a iron plate is "better" for ones spirituality than eating out of a plastic or clay plate. With regards to ur pic of the shaheed singhs, the presence of only certain types of utensils and absence of others has no bearing on the true practice of Sikhi. Guru Nanak travelled nearly the whole world eating out of the same utensils as the local people did and it had no effect on his "spirituality" so why should we feel that the utensils should affect ours? I completely agree with you that before a Sikh accepts something he should to the best of his ability try to ascertain the manner in which something is obtained. IF it obtained by dishonest means (e.g. stealing, lying, cheating) then he should reject it immediately. A sikh should live only off honest means and partake in only those goods from others which have also been obtained thru honest means. This was the message Guru Nanak Dev Ji was trying to teach us thru this example. Do u think Guru Nanak was looking at the plate to see what it was made of? Whether it was made of clay, iron, steel, copper etc.? Do u think this was the criteria Guru Ji used to decide whether he would eat the food or not? NO. He was concerned with the MEANS by which the food was obtained (i.e. thru honest or dishonest earnings), not the plate in which the food was served. Furthermore, Guru Nanak travelled all across Asia, and his only regular companion was Bhai Mardana. During these many years of travel the Guru likely ate food from countless diferent cultures, cooked by people from countless different religions in countless different manners. So do u think that Guru Nanak took a cooking guide with him and kept a sarbloh pot in his backpack and whereve he went he told the locals to cook the food only in this specific manner and only using this sarbloh pot? Or would u assume that ALL OF ASIA followed the practice of using sarbloh bibeki at that time? The answer in both cases is a resounding NO. The only criteria Guru Ji used to partake in food with someone was that the food was made and served with love, and obtained thru honest means. 143997[/snapback] Wonderfully said Brother! Why complicate Sikhi? However no matter how solid the points you make there will always be the ones who follow a rule simply for following a rule!

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They are all boys, 3 + half of them = 6 boys 143950[/snapback] Beat you to it! I WANT MY OREOS! And for the other riddle is it ASH?

Bet you 10 oreos

LOL no I think Im right Singstah come back I got one, announce me the winner!

Theyre all boys?

Twins?

LOL damn you guys are good!

OK children heres one... The one who makes it doesn't need it the one that buys it doesn't keep it the one that sells it doesn't use it the one that's using it never knows its being used What am I?

Yes you get a Free Breathe of Air!!!! Your turn

When you figure it out someone can post a new one, but only AFTER this one is solved...its easy I know A prominent doctor has a brother who is an attorney in Detroit, Michigan, but the attorney in Detroit does not have a brother who is a doctor. How can this be?

freaks.. talking about this american "football", obviously it was Liverpool winning the Champions league!! 143907[/snapback] LiverWHO?? You know whats fun though Rugby, now thats a violent sport!! But back to the subject, yes the Bears will go all the way this year, and the Superbowl is right next door! Detroit!

Wonderfully Said brother.

(LOL sorry I left my computer on the PIMP thing wasnt me, haha but I thought it was funny, anyway...) He jumped on the motorcycle only to realize it was out of Gas!....

LostSoul I was yawning due to the boredom of having to read your pointless and ignorant contribution. From now on I will do what most of the posters say they do which is just ignore your posts. Btw find out what nindya means before throwing that word around just to cover up your lack of knowledge on this subject. 143744[/snapback] Thank you, why dont we do this Ill look up nindya, and you look up Ignorant:) My lack of knowledge? You truely are brilliant! Also my posts usually do get replied to, but Im really saddened to learn that from now on you will be skipping my posts, Also Im very happy to know that Im interesting enough to be discussed about off the board... I still love you BTW brother take my suggestion and take your same post, post it in a muslim discussion room, and carry on your slandering there. Jagit whaeguru veer ji, Im only upset since I dont like putting others faiths down. Also I have many many muslim friends who are very good people and would take offense to this. Bhagat Kabir Ji didnt attack Islam itself but people who hollowly practiced it.

HIS PIMP....

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Why dont we let a educated muslim on the site to defend his faith. Why do nindya? Bikramjit Get some sleep, your babbling while you yawn

wakes up to realize he was high on crack

Wow this is great instead of discussing our religions lets bash anothers! Why is it when Muslims bash us we get all worked up, but we could care less when were on the giving end? Alot of the things said here is so childish it makes me laugh. The Muslims never bow to Guru Nanak Dev Jis sandals, that one made absolutlely no sense as it would go against the tenents of Islam. As for the 9 year old wife I was surprised by that to, but you have to realize that back in that time the life span was what at the most 40? People got married young, cant say much on that but we shouldnt point fingers. Also alot of things said have no backing. Why are we getting into nindya, especially with a Great Religions prophet? Is that what the maturity level on this site is?

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HAHA whose the number one defense in the league? Thats right, the monsters of the midway. Now that we got a quarterback theres no team that can stop us. This year Chicago has Two tropihies coming home

Who do u think would win silly