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GPS Bhaiji He got a personal attack

GPS Bhaiji I agree entirely. I meant personal attacks are counter productive and anathema to understanding. Our Guru Sahiban thought us with love and understanding yet we ridicule each other over mis/understanding. Someone actually suggested to someone else that Sikhi was not for them and that its was probably in their best interest to practice another religion altogether!!!!!! Words can be more spiteful than a talwar......use them carefully.

I thank Bhai Sahib Ranjit Singh Ji for visiting Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Ji who is at the end of day 18 of a hunger strike unto death. By availing yourself before him you have helped maintain his Chardi Kalà..........for that the Sikh Panth thanks you.

Guru Ke Piaraio Is questioning each others commitment productive?? Can we not have a sensible discussion without personal attacks?? This forum has absolutely no purpose if the administration of it is not regulated.....we are Sikhs of the Khalsa Panth!!!!!! Yet bicker about each others differing interpretation of the one thought. Two people will not necessarily agree on the colour of a dawn sky......so wether we can agree on a single interpretation of any Gurbani or Sakhi is nigh on impossible. Sikhi is thought.......a thought is so infinitely complex an individual will struggle to explain it without sounding either too shallow or over jargonised. Sikh's squabbling over EVERY little minor thing is absolutely pitiful. Theres no difference between this forum and the "we love (insert football team name)fc site". Those mature enough will understand my point.......the unfortunates are welcome to attack me.

Waheguru

Chatanga bhaiji This boy is beyond me. Of course i was not serious. Suppose I shall be grateful of one thing, that being......he is not a member of the committee that manages the Gurughar that I am a Sangat member of. Shall not be corresponding with him again. His manmat may prove contagious.

Jaspreet bhaiji Some points for your clarification: 1 you did not ask him if he is a mona...... You said "i think you are, if not....... That in the English language is known and referred to as an assumption. That assumption in the English language is considered as being the mother of.........i'll leave the rest for your ample imagination. 2 your entire "example" is without merit for the following reason, the Hukkam of the Akal Takht is global, so the legal status of YOUR country is actually irrelevant. Prove me wrong by boarding a plane wearing your Sri Sahib....... 3 the humiliation I shall say was warranted and accept as Guru's bhana, as I assumed to be in conversation with a Satkar Yog GurSikh, who addressed me as Jivan........moreover you decided for yourself that my understanding of the English language is inadequate. 4 to suggest that I have messed with the "wrong" person leads me to believe that your ego is indeed beyond your conscious control and for that as a brother I beg of you to address this through Naam and Gurbani. 5 you're absolutely correct my brother, Waheguru is watching and I am always conscious of this but alas I am but a mere human being.........I can but only aspire to be as intelligent and gifted as your goodself. Bhul chuk maaf kardeyo ji

Jaspreet bhaiji you have begun your reply by insulting and judging my grasp of the English language. Your assumptions both of my lingual ability and/or someone elses appearance take away any merit that may have been due to your post. Therefore you have missed my point entirely. I now bid you Gurfateh and respectfully decline your overtures to invite a debate upon anything other than the topic of discussion (see thread title).

VaheGuru Ardas sadi eho hi hai Bhai Sahib Gurbaksh Singh di chardi kalà nu kaem rakho tàke gulaam Singhà de gallò gullamee leh jaavè INDIA FREE OUR BROTHERS WHO HAVE SERVED THEIR TERMS AS PER YOUR UNJUST JUSTICE SYSTEM. Where is the Sikh diaspora and their campaigns????

Bhaiji JinUzuki Allow me to apologise in advance if I appear to be singling you out as that is far far from my intention. The letter from Sri Akal Takht is addressed to the Samoo Saadh Sangat, to inform them of the criteria for candidates. Therefore it is the Guru Roop Ki Sangat's responsibility to ensure only correct Maryada Rehat Singhs are elected. This then negates all need for controversy post election, as each member of the committee is considered worthy by authority of the Sangat. The Sangat is responsible for their committee formation. In short, every Sikh is expected to adhere to Sri Akal Takht so that means as per directive they cannot vote for a non Amritdhari, if they do then the entire Sangat of the Gurdwara is culpable in heresy, as opposed to it falling upon the shoulders of the committee to start arguing over who can and can't be a member. I maybe being over simplistic in my understanding of the procedures of following Hukamnanai but isn't that the reason we have them? So as an educated and informed decision can be made without the need for squabbling after the election and inviting ridicule and disturbance once the Sangat has made its point of selecting its sevardars. Once again Bhaiji bhul chuk maaf karna

Jinuzuki Bhaiji again with the utmost respect; By your logic any atheist or member of a religion can become a committee member because they have a legal right?? As most Gurdwaras are registered charities they are bound by equal opportunities legislation, however, a candidates suitability will be decided by election.....therefore our Sangats must be prepared and enlightened to select correctly as per hukkamnama. Can discrimination be alleged against an electorate?? I think not

Chatanga and jinuzuki Respectfully bhaji's i must say that the semantic gymnastics being played are quite plain to see. As I read the letter signed by four Singh Sahibans I understood it for what it was. Any member must be Amritdhari......end of. Jinnai memberaa de naam pishau Singh lagda Sabat Soorat attae Amritdhari hovai. These are not seperate criteria but a list.....therefore Singh plus clearly visible Amritdhari. We in the west plead for tough strong statements yet when they are given we find ways to misunderstand them.