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sorry crossed wires

don't worry you could spell it ...as you can see it doesn't give you a clue who I am...much like your name Japji sahib not your thing huh? the reason why wars,people starve, predjudice, happen is Human egoes drunk on maya and let loose with the 5 chor running the show . I don't think even free will is a factor any more it is purely animalistic. See what Guru ji is saving you from ... I think struggling to be accepted as a sikh for over 8 years eliminates that argument as despite blatant to the face racism and slurs they both perservered . They have zero to do with 3HO so that's not even a factor here. well you better read on ... this couple I had heard about in a gupt form in 2 other katha vichar videos by two seperate Parchaariks who witnessed/took the gurvaak at the camp that inspired them to come home to sikhi . The fact escapes you that it was a HUKHAM directly by Guru ji for them to become full sikhs (I suspect you didn't watch the full video) Dhanaasree mehlaa 5. ang 678. jin tum bhayjay tineh bulaa-ay sukh sahj saytee ghar aa-o. (The One who sent you, has now recalled you; return to your home now in peace and pleasure. ) anad mangal gun gaa-o sahj Dhun nihchal raaj kamaa-o. (In bliss and ecstasy, sing His Glorious Praises; by this celestial tune, you shall acquire your everlasting kingdom.) ||1|| tum ghar aavhu mayray meet. (Come back to your home, O my friend. ) tumray dokhee har aap nivaaray apdaa bha-ee biteet. rahaa-o. (The Lord Himself has eliminated your enemies, and your misfortunes are past.) ||Pause|| pargat keenay parabh karnayhaaray naasan bhaajan thaakay. (God, the Creator Lord, has glorified you, and your running and rushing around has ended) ghar mangal vaajeh nit vaajay apunai khasam nivaajay (In your home, there is rejoicing; the musical instruments continually play, and your Husband Lord has exalted you) asthir rahhu dolahu mat kabhoo gur kai bachan aDhaar (Remain firm and steady, and do not ever waver; take the Guru`s Word as your Support.) jai jai kaar sagal bhoo mandal mukh oojal darbaar (You shall be applauded and congratulated all over the world, and your face shall be radiant in the Court of the Lord) jin kay jee-a tinai hee fayray aapay bha-i-aa sahaa-ee. (All beings belong to Him; He Himself transforms them, and He Himself becomes their help and support) achraj kee-aa karnaihaarai naanak sach vadi-aa-ee. (The Creator Lord has worked a wondrous miracle; O Nanak, His glorious greatness is true) because you specifically differentiated on his colouring and seperate cultural roots and because in Gurbani's court you are guilty of discriminating on irrelevant basis Everyone says that there are four castes, four social classes.They all emanate from the drop of God's Seed. || 2 ||The entire universe is made of the same clay.The Potter has shaped it into all sorts of vessels. || 3 ||The five elements join together, to make up the form of the human body.Who can say which is less, and which is more? || 4 ||Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji ang 1127, 1128 And again: First, Allah created the Light; then, by His Creative Power,He made all mortal beings. From the One Light, the entire universe welled up.So who is good, and who is bad? || 1 ||O people, O Siblings of Destiny, do not wander deluded by doubt.The Creation is in the Creator, and the Creator is in the Creation, totally pervading and permeating all places. || 1|| Pause ||The clay is the same, but the Fashioner has fashioned it in various ways.There is nothing wrong with the pot of clay,There is nothing wrong with the Potter. || 2 ||The One True Lord abides in all; by His making, everything is made.Whoever follows His Message knows the One Lord.He alone is said to be the Lord's slave. || 3 ||Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, ang 1349, 1350 you ARE entitled to write what you feel but you have no right to criticise Sikh bandhap without cause just because of you inadequate embodiment of gurbani principles of manas ka ek jaat.

what are you talking about kirpans ? don't bibian wear kirpans either now , what the hell is going on ? When did this happen because we have DDT granthis of my mum's age over here and their bibis were indistinguishable from AKJ because they have full 5 plus keshki . Sant ji's wife wore a dastar and was rehitvaan too so is this in the last decade ?Akal Takht amrit sanchars bibian wore dastars after having khande di bata amrit up until 1920s when it was suppressed

Maybe we need to keep on this http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-defies-european-court-ruling-10034868

Theresa on the EU ruling http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-defies-european-court-ruling-10034868

AKJ and DDT bibian all used to wear small keshkis under their chunnis since I was a kid (ages before 1970s) then girls started wearing larger dastaars as their confidence in their sikhi grew , In Uk there are quite a few dastarwalian bibian of all styles.

where veer ji I am worried for my friends and family on the mainland and those here in the Uk because such a ban could be implemented over here without any qualifiers since we are brexiting ....

learn to stand for yourself and stop taking the path of ease ...your dastaar is paid for by the blood of the shaheeds . There is no justification for your actions .

SIkh women do not wear hijabs ...

you are doing your own manmat and passing it off as someone elses instruction... I never take off my dastar , until there is an actual request which only ever happened once in Italy and I have travelled to many different places .

plus which afghani sikh woman have you seen with a dastaar...? yep it's a big crock of jungle

hmmm never had that instruction from panj and not sure of that sakhi

Was reading up on nirmaley and was curious if they actually produced a book/pothi/teeka on the 500 arths of Waheguru mantra, also if they have does anyone know/have access to a copy?

obviously her passport photo is without dastar ... opps

also nirmaley have women vidhvaans training under them so the whole thing of not speaking to /keeping company with males other than own family, not reading Guru ji in company seems to go out of the window. nearly all the mahapurakhs barring Takht Hazoor sahib dals gave Khande bate di amrit to female equally from the start of past century until now , My Mum had khande di bata as a young school girl from klaren wale sant Isher Singh ji (chotte) her rehit was just as a man's .There was a dastar rehit for bibian at akal takht as my bazurg at the turn of the century as they too were given khande di amrit and this is noted in history as an action had to be taken to remove TEMPORARILY that requirement for women supposedly to encourage women to take amrit . so with a heavy heart I asked Guru ji for help with this issue here is Guruvaak: ang1328/9 pRBwqI mhlw 1 ] AMimRqu nIru igAwin mn mjnu ATsiT qIrQ sMig ghy ] gur aupdyis jvwhr mwxk syvy isKu suo Koij lhY ]1] gur smwin qIrQu nhI koie ] sru sMqoKu qwsu guru hoie ]1] rhwau ] guru drIAwau sdw jlu inrmlu imilAw durmiq mYlu hrY ] siqguir pwieAY pUrw nwvxu psU pryqhu dyv krY ]2] rqw sic nwim ql hIAlu so guru prmlu khIAY ] jw kI vwsu bnwspiq saurY qwsu crx ilv rhIAY ]3] gurmuiK jIA pRwn aupjih gurmuiK isv Gir jweIAY ] gurmuiK nwnk sic smweIAY gurmuiK inj pdu pweIAY ]4]6]

but interesting how it came out when the European verdict about external signs of religions can be banned by employers confirmed that employers have the right to ban them if it is warranted by a legimate internal rule.

it was a minor case of three criminals with past form ...but it plays into the UK -India pact to defame sikhs ...frankly I think this is so dodgy , there are three checks going into the gate areas and one on the destination immigration desks , that's some serious lack of attention ...

wasn't it tradition for mahals to be surnamed deva/ devi ? and if issuing hukams for the panth signing with that name would be more well known than her new moniker.

aint no doubt Waheguru reached in and pulled them out .... What to take out of this : 1. need to get rid of the illiterate bigots in gurdwarey by making it normal for non-punjabi speaking people to have support and friendly faces to deal with by encouraging the youth to watch out for them and engage . 2. Each gurdwara across the planet needs a strategy and resources to support newcomers 3. we need support for domestic violence sufferers and posters for helplines etc in the loos and foyers of gurdwarey in multiple languages. 4. in-house counselling if possible 5. Gursikhs manning sikhi drop-ins at the gurdwara so people can get their questions answered in a non-judgemental way.

I think this is the couple that Bhai Sukha Singh talks about in the video about the power of the living Guru and BHai Baljit SIngh ji also

ok also tell why a sehajdhari is allowed to trim his/her body hair with a scissor , does this mean there four classifications of sikh or three because you have khalsa (khande di pahul), Sikh man (charan pahaul) , Sikh child (kirpan di pahul/chaula), sikh bibian ,keep kesh ,cover heads, not allowed to recite bani to satsang (doesn't specify whether this only relates to male satsang or female satsang (so could be only a male reads to females) and yet is supposed to as part of her duties teach her husband sikhi and gurbani ??? (only kirpan di pahaul) I'm sorry but too many contradictions somebody who is called deceitful and untrustworthy , unworthy of sitting in mixed sangat, unworthy of taking gurvaak much less singing kirtan in darbar, has to have lesser form of amrit, lesser rehit and yet instruct and remind her husband of his rehit ? what happened to "so kion manda aakiya jitt jamai rajan ?" of Guru Nanak Dev ji , the Manjis and parchaariks of whole areas by Bibian? How can one instruct other newcomers of mixed genders if there is such a paabandi on gurvaak, gursewa in sangat? Problem is we don't know how much is truly authentic as it even contradicts contemporary Nand Lal rehitnama in places. Guru ji wasn't known to constantly change rehit just build on previous Guru Sahiban's rehit.

Sure they can as long as they show full satkar and use prescribed rehit for the paat . I don't see a problem , even non-sikhs have been doing sehaj paats for obtaining gian and kirpa .

then why is it not said the same for the mona woman in the previous section ? stop making up stuff and recognise that there are some things here that against Guru Gobind SIngh's rehit especially numerous Hindu specific rituals like yearly shrad and putting phul of antim sanskar in GANGA ... also no mention of anand Karaj anywhere. It is literally contradicting itself , then comparing againt Bhai Nand Lal SIngh's rehitnama again the difference are apparent. No daughter of a sikh is supposed to given in the house of a mona from Guru ji's own hukam - roti beti di sanjh.. so how does one equate this rehit nama to Guru ji's orders ?

Bibi Sukhmani Kaur Basics of sikhi - much promotion of Gurmukhi regularly does kiddie Sangat in West London the bibian who are doing parchaar now having gone through the parchaarik school and returned home. Bibi Sukhwinder Kaur from SOPW /sikh relief on fitness/self confidence front perhaps Fitness Kaur since the title was SIkhs not specific to Gender then Bhai Manmohan SIngh SAS - protecting our panth's future Bhai Rama Singh ji inspired so many british sikhs Bhai Baljit SIngh/ BHai Jugraj Singh - same thoughts of spreading the word

it is because all pairs of eyes imbibe the amrit with energy , even abilakhees are told to do naam jap whilst listening and look at the surface of the amrit .(at least I was told to by my elders) plus the panj are supposed to embody Guru Sahib , who was untainted by disfigurement or handicap