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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! really bad , the woman that actually chucked it in was caught and a sikh spotted her doing it, she amidiatly sed as an escape route that it was my medicine it was my medicine .. then the sikhs sed ok now you eat it and we'll c, she refused to do so so they sent the daal away to be tested really bad wat happnd!!

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Rashpal as i sed before lets sort it out then eh ?? you just sit their in the sessions dont say a word then slag of the organisation .. its only just started but with a negative attitude like yours we aint gonna get n e where cos u aint willing to help !! brother it can be done your saying it lik the sikhs in bradford have no chance of being united .... WE WILL BE UNITED!! RAJ KAREGA KA KHALSA 1 day and we need to be united for that mate! THE PANTH WILL BE UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! DOCTOR MANI RESPECT Avar allah noor paye, kudrat key sabh bandey!! another thing isingh the gurugranth sahib did not go inside the mandir. the van was just stopped ther.. and if thats bad yaar it went near 'in vision',of a sloghter house1 street away from it, which could be smelt quite badly, yet we dont want it to do through the route of the mandir! O ye rash 4got to say. rashpal paaji why dont u ever make a suggestion in the actual thing rather just sit ther and slag of the organisation behind its back ?? if you think this is a major issue say it and lets get it sorted eh ?? bhul chuk maaf Gur fathe

singh.co.uk PLEASE TAKE TIME TO READ THE FOLLOWING; Do not let the FIRE in your belly consume you, read this with an OPEN mind and make your own valued judgement. All of this can be verified by reading transcripts of the koran or visiting the Hizb-ut-tahrir and Khalifa websites (can be found using search) engines. Furthermore remember that we as Sikh people have been under attack from the Muslims since the Arabs rose to power in 713AD (source Punjab.com), constant attack to assimilate us has been carried out since. The mogul emperors the shahs the British and the Hindus have all seen us as an underclass, and they have treated us accordingly. However, we have not succumb and do not intend to, knowledge is your wealth and power my friends and I¡¦m giving you a 24 carat insight. THE TRUTH ABOUT CONVERSIONS 10 SECRETS THE MUSLIMS DON¡¦T WANT YOU TO KNOW 1. Islam is a totally MISSIONARY religion committed to making EVERYONE Muslim, according to the Koran the world is divided up into 2 parts, Dar-as-Islam (House of Faith) a title which applies to all Islamic countries and Dar-al-Harb (Household of War), land not yet surrendered to Allah, which is the rest of the world. It is the duty of every Muslim to wage Jihad (Holy War) against Kafirs, infidels and unbelievers what the Koran calls non-Muslims and make them submit to Islam. Violence against Kafirs is encouraged in the Koran, if gentle persuasion doesn¡¦t work. 2. Conversions of Sikh and Hindu men and women is becoming an increasing problem, hundreds of reported and verified conversions in the last few years. Dozens of cases were reported in October 1995 alone, when the new academic year started also converte d. Universities in London, Bradford and Luton are particular problem areas. 3. At the Hizb-ut-Tahrir ( HUT ) conference at the Wembley arena in August 1994, a Sikh was converted on stage in front of 8000 cheering and clapping Muslims. The Sikh girl then proceeded to attack Sikhism making particularly offensive statements against the Sikh Gurus. The audience laughed and continued to cheer. Some of this speech was televised on satellite T.V and on the HUTs pirate radio station. Muslim leaders at the conference called for an intensification of the campaign to bring Sikh and Hindu women to Islam. The same thing happened at HUTs Rally for Islam conference in Trafalgar Square, August 1995. This time 2 Hindu women were converted on stage in front of 2000 cheering Muslims. Again Muslim leaders demanded that Muslims boys try harder to convert Sikh and Hindu girls. 4. The self appointed Muslim parliament of Britain passed a resolution demanding that the British government make it illegal for Muslim women to marry non-Muslim. It also called for the banning of conversions of Muslims to other faiths. Any Muslim who did convert was to be stoned to death according Islamic tradition. Thankfully, the British government did not take their demand seriously, but the event showed the Muslims double standards and hypocrisy. 5. HUT leaders issued a directive in January 1995 to specially selected male members telling them to place Ads in personal columns of national newspapers inviting relationships from Asian women, they were told to write the religion and nationality of the girl were unimportant and be ambiguous about their own backgrounds by for example only describing themselves as Asian. They were further told to form intimate relationships with only Sikh and Hindu girls who replied with the aim of conversion. The expense of the Ads and any dates were to be paid by the HUT. 6. Certain Muslims have taken to wearing Karas (Sikh steel bracelet) at Bhangra gigs with the aim of specifically seeking to meet Hindu and Sikh girls. When meeting the Girls, these people identify themselves in such a way that the girl does not realise that they are Muslim, for example by shortening the name Mohammed to Mohan. They form relationships with the girl and begin the slow path to conversion. 7. A Muslim converting somebody, will never tell the person the whole story. For example when converting men they always leave out the part about having to be circumcised to become Muslim. After all what man would want half of his genitals cut off. Likewise girl converts are tricked into believing that men and women are equal to Islam. They are not told that rape victims according to the Koran have produce 4 Male witnesses of good character to say that they were raped or they will be charged with adultery and stoned according to Islamic tradition (hundreds of cases where this has occurred are on file with Amnesty International, contact them for further information). Also according to the Koran, all man has to do to divorce his wife is say Talaq 3 times. For women of course getting a divorce is much harder. Besides which what woman wants to share her husband with three other women. The new method that they are employing is to change their names by deed poll to Mohan Singh and Balraj Singh , they add surnames on to Gill and Hayer are two of there favorites. Please check the person you are going to marry and there credentials through your parents or close relatives NAMES MEAN NOTHING THERE ARE BEING CHANGED BY DEED POLL IT ONLY COSTS THEM A COUPLE OF HUNDRED POUNDS , SUPPLIED BY THEY¡¦RE FANATICAL ELDERS!!!! 8. HUT leadership has instructed its members to specifically target problem groups of conversion. These include young teenage girls, people with social problems, the recently bereaved and victims of abuse as children. These people are considered to be weak willed and easily manipulated once identified the Muslim will try to convince their target that Islam will magically solve all their prob lems. Incidentally in 1992 the hut produced an article telling Muslim men to particularly target non-Muslim girls with plain or unattractive physical, facial or body features. These girls the article said would not be accustomed to this attention and would do anything to maintain a relationship. It went on to say that the discomfort you may feel in such relationships, especially if intimate is only temporary however the rewards you will receive in Heaven will last for eternity. 9. The HUT has instructed Muslims to work in groups when converting, with one person forming a very close friendship with their target. The group then works to find out the strengths and weaknesses of the person involved and then will work accordingly. If for example, the person loves sport and is very athletic, they go on about how Islam actively encourages sport and how all the world¡¦s best sportsmen such as Muhammad Ali, Tyson and Imran Khan are Muslims. If the person has a strongly anti-white attitude, then they will stir up racial hatred against whites even more by talking about past white injustices against them. This policy has been used effectively with Afro-Caribbean¡¦s, with whom they talk about the slave trade and give Malcolm X as role model (Muslim groups leafleted black cinema audiences watching Malcolm X when it was released ). Similarly, the hard up have been offered well-paid jobs with Muslim businesses providing they convert. 10. Forced conversions do occur. There have been many documented cases at least one in Southall) when Sikh and Hindu girls have been taken to Pakistan by their Muslim boyfriends and forcibly converted. Those resisting are passed on to other Muslim men who keep the girl under lock and key, in some remote village without telephones. All the girls money and her passport are taken away. Other cases have occurred when Sikh and Hindu girls are photographed naked by their Muslim boyfriends, and are told to convert or else the photos will be published in magazines and sent to the girls family and friends. These are not tragically scare stories but facts. „« CONVERSIONS INTO ISLAM almost always occur out of a persons IGNORANCE or MISUNDERSTANDING of their own religion. Take time to understand your religion and educate others. The process of conversion is usually very SUBTLE and GRADUAL. „« It always occurs progressively UNDERMINING YOUR CULTURE and RELIGION through misquoting religious texts and falsifying historical events. Be on guard and stop them from speaking lies about your religion be you Sikh or Hindu. The HUT and other Muslim groups have said that they aim to make FRANCE, an ISLAMIC REPUBLIC by the year 2015 and Britain by 2025 through CONVERSIONS, IMMIGRATION and high MUSLIM BIRTH RATES. „« THE DIFFERENT WAYS THE HUT ARE ATTACKING US Fanatics are now vandalising books on Sikhism and religious texts such as the Guru Granth Sahib in Council, School, and college libraries. „« About 30% of the time this vandalism involves the writing of false propaganda and messages to the readers of the book. These messages usually attempts to UNDERMINE your faith by MISQUOTING religious texts and distorting reality. Check your local library especially if you live in an area with a history of trouble. „« Recent events have shown that groups have become increasingly envious of our prosperity in this country. They are now systematically trying their best to damage us financially. In some Mosques speakers have told worshippers to boycott Sikh and Hindu shops. However, the most obvious example of this economic sabotage would be that of the Bradford riots. These were not as the media have us believe merely a case of Asian youths uprising and fighting white fascist police brutality, but more a situation where gangs went on rampage, burning and looting non-Muslim property. The Economist Magazine (June 17th 1995 edition ) reported that No Hindu nor Sikh youths took part, only Muslim males. Indian owned business were attacked. In fact other reports state that older, mask ed Muslims ( thought to be HUT ) went down the streets ahead of everyone else, and specifically marked out Sikh and Hindu shops with spray paint, for destruction by rioters following them. Don¡¦t be fooled by the Muslim media, Sikhs and Hindus were the victims of the Muslim riots in Bradford. The HUT produced and circulated articles in universities, stating that Jewish, Sikh and Hindu students were dogs and must be removed from higher education. (As reported in the Guardian, 31st October 1995 edition). The Muslims have realised that the power, respect, money and knowledge and influence brings makes us more powerful enemies. The exact strategy for preventing us from obtaining higher education has not yet been leaked, but the harassment and bullying Hindu and Sikh students at schools and colleges (by such acts as the storming of West Thames college in Jan 1995) is bound to be a part of it. After all how can anyone work in places of such stress. Our youths must strive to get highly educated as they possibly can. University students should act as role models and encourage younger members of the community to get an education. This will greatly benefit not only you and your family, but help your community. Youths have been instructed to infiltrate any and every organisation and position of authority they can. They have also been told to keep their Islamic fundamentalist secret and subtly remove our community from a position within these organisations. For example, they have been directed to join Student Union bodies, the Media, anti-racist groups community groups, councils and political parties. Muslims even use black magic to try and convert people. So don¡¦t take anything object, food, gift from a muslim! PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THIS, AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO AS MANY FELLOW INDIANS AS YOU CAN. THIS IS NOT A HATE LITERATURE BUT ONE OF AWARENESS MOST IMPORTANTLY: YOUR RELIGION HAS A LOT MORE TO OFFER, IF FOLLOWED PROPERLY IGNORANCE IS THE WORST EXCUSE. Do not dismiss your dr eams. To be without dreams is to be without hope. To be without hope is to be without purpose. Do not run through life so fast that you forget not only where you have been, but also where you are going. Life is not a race, but a journey to be savoured each step of the way......(author: Waheguru Pramatma)

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LOL Doctor Mani

the split is in the caste of the gurdwara's .. do u know the history of bradford ? well baisically sikhs found it easier to go down the road and make another gurdwara to sort out personal and political issues of the gurdwara rather than sortin them out! Now as part of the youth of bradford you can recognise a aplit within the youth of gurdwara's.. leading to fights and arguements ETC suggestions were needed open them lines read the 1st few messages! Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! hey everybody jus as i was going to sleep yesterday i thought of something that really requires deep thought .. we as good sikhs want our main objective to be one with god.. such a high stage .. ok fair enough the concept of death scares me but if we were good enough would we be with god .. ?? then again god is everywhere hena? so affectivly would we be everywhere?? my fellow sikhs enlighten me on what happens after death. and the question.. Thank ju Simmi Mind my spellings lol Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

lol me and my cousin in india use this account hes called DC its his birthday hapy birthday to him! Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Waheguru Ji .. ISingh intressting points but you said : The guru granth sahib ji says : The guru teaches all .. we shouldnt argue where he teaches as he is our eternal teacher .. it doesnt make a differnce if its at the gurdwara or at a mandhar the guru is still remains our guru! what you sed means we shouldnt even go on a nagar kirtan because that going 'outside' the gurdwara. Another thing how does that mandir have links with RSS, the place where RSS exist in bradford is in a center near thornbury we shouldnt assume or accuse anybody without knowing the facts. that wil be our downfall definatly!! Master P sed he was brought up as a ramgaria it doesnt mean he follows the caste system! I agree 100% with you there reasnable and intelligent point!! Master P said That is a kinda sterotypical veiw Not all people are backword thinkers but to an extent it is absilutly right!! Again I invite my sikh brothers and sisters from leeds, bradford, huddersfield,halifax to the Akal Sikh Assosiation meetings on wednesday afternoon at guru gobind singh gurdwara from 6:30 - 8:00. A small amount of your time can make a massive differnce!! We are trying to unite the youth please help and support us to do it!! In the future it will help us with the scheme One Gurdwara Bradford. Bhull Chuck Maaf Gur Fathe Gobind Marg Boys--GMB--- United We Stand .. Devided We Fall..

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! yea penji you carry on with your sikhi but if you think about it your brother isnt doin pakhand to n e 1 isnt misleading n e 1 .. her are some sikhs out their that keep der kesh and dont want it for various reasons and thier the bad ones .. respect to your brother for that.. i will pray that your brother will see the light of tru sikhi one day .. not to be dissheartend AT ALL Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

LLOLL oops :umm: im a bad guy!!

does he have links with rss ?? and how bigs his organisation ?? isit something to be worrying about ??

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! Singhni ji it shouldnt e a matter of our gurdwara and your gurdwara dont take affence we are all as bad as each other. its a good suggestion about holding camp and kirtan darbars and rhenswais (4giv my spelling) at guru gobind singh gurdwara thier is a youth organisation for sikhs opened up called .. akal sikh assosiation .. and we have meetings at the gurdwara every wednesday from 7 - 8 the hours maybe extended as thier is so uch to disscuss and so much do! i wish all the youth from all the gurdwara's that they visit to come to this meeting .. bhai sukhraj singh holds it .. i fermilua face to most of bradfords gurdwara's .. i please please please request that all the youth turn up even if thier from local citys such as hudds, leeeds, halifax etc .. this way we can make a differnce. well i hope the youth organisation has nothing to do with one gurdwara bradford its just about general sikhism and every week a presenation is done by 2/3 of the youths about a guru or something they really lik about sikhism. i hope the youth and the older generation can support this because it has been very hard to make the organisation!! please let me know on what should be disscussed if i have missed anything out .. this maybe can lead to one gurdwara bradford .. and i shall be uploading a website telling the sangat of more details about the plan. we are all the son and daughters of him .. the al mighty .. we should all unite as we are brothers and sisters.. this will make our sikhi stronger Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!! i once had a coming across of johova's seemed lik really nice people i guess we shouldnt rele sterotype eh .. i must say sumat i hav respect for em the reason is some of em know the bible bk to front which is more than it can be sed for some sikhs .. gill sahib u sed the reason is, it is sed in the bible .. if thats what they belive allow it and practise your sikhi as good sikhs we should invite them into your houses .. its actually quite funny because once i was in a youth form at singh sabha gurdwara in bradford and thier is a sikh bhai paramjit singh from birmingham i think thats where he's from does the same thing but with sikhi .. he sed thier just promoting ther religion maybe we should let people know about sikhism and its tru wisdom ?? but maybe not in a annoying way lols < !--emo&:e:--> gur fathe

Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Jee Kee Fateh!! I think it is important that we have all the youth from all the gurdwara's to at least know about one gurdwara Bradford .. It could be a long term scheme..The older generation obviously does not want to know about, or even does not want to think about one gurdwara in Bradford.. But the youth.. The youth are then next generation maybe one day being seva daars at the gurdwara’s when their older and considered 'miture' by everybody else people will see that it is a good idea. If we start to think along the lines now, we are the youth it WILL, one day be possible to have one gurdwara in Bradford! This way we will be able to unite in Bradford no matter what ur caste or beliefs!! Ther is a split in the sikhs here, and we are demading khalistan aswell .. that just doeasnt work does it ?? we have to become one first!! I try to keep close contact with the youth from all gurdwara's but for some reason i feel intimidated when i go to singh sabha gurdwara bradford ..Maybe its because i am from guru gobind singh gurdwara? I used to go to singh sabha quite often but a great criticism of the gurdwara is.. The people seem to presume things rather than knowing the facts, and i could give you many examples my self which i wont quote because we are not here to 'slag' each other off but i would email u em, if you considered it as knowledge and progression for the gurdwara. Pull Chuk Maaf Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa! Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

please visit this link my gursikhs it will make things clearer http://www.searchsikhism.com/issues/khalistan.htm

RESPECTSSSS!!!!

enlighten me .. thats why i learn first ..

:umm: : sorry if i dont practise sikhi to your extent but isnt that for me to worry about? :umm:

intressting thoughts my pyarey gursikhs .. but we need methods in how to make the youth come together not to disscuss the gud and bad points of the gurdwara's.. its intressting that u mentioned the RSS movement .. i dont no alot about thgis my self and could you let me know how leeds road 'supports' them .. i thought that was the problm as ravidass pavan .. singh sabha has a good mentallity of thinkin how could we attract all the sangat to one gurdwara .. long term plans for me in my life time if possible make one big gurdwara in bradford.. how can we achive that ?? Gur Fathe