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Modified Rules & Guidlines which will replace all old rules and guidelines starting Feb 1st, 2013. ------- WARNINGS Warnings may or may not be given to forum user. However, we will try our best to notify user to modify his/her behavior and adhere to the forum rules. Warnings will be given anonymously from either Admin or Moderator user id. Under Moderation If sewadars seen editing your post more often then your membership will go under moderation without notice. If sewadars still edit your posts then a final warning will be given in written pm/email form before disabling/ban your membership from our forums. We may put user under moderation with or without notifying user. Typical user account time under moderation is about 4 weeks. Moderation will be lifted upon the discretion of SikhSangat. User may write to the Admin (SikhSangat@live.com) stating why he/she should be taken off of moderation and how they will strive to make better posts. QC - Quality Control QC is different than Under Moderation, it is implemented only to control the flow of below quality posts/replies etc. We may put new members under QC until further notice. We reserves the right to place any member under quality control moderation. An explanation is not required under quality control moderation but all efforts will be made to notify them. The duration of the moderation will be at the prerogative of the Admin. BAN If any user continues to violate forum rules and does agree with forum sewadars then Administrator will ban particular user indefinitely without any contact. User may write to the Admin (SikhSangat@live.com) stating why he/she should be taken off of BAN and how they will strive to make better posts. IF we lift the ban, user will stay under moderation until further notice. REPORT THIS POST If you think something requires the attention of the moderators or if any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately; please hit the "Report this Post" link on the post in question. This will send an ALERT via PM and email message to SikhSangat so that they can address the problem next time they log on to their computer. This is a manual process, however, so please realize that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately. You may also contact us at SikhSangat@live.com providing all details such as URL, User ids & brief description of your disagreement. LAW ENFORCEMENT Do not post messages that advocate harm or death to anyone, threaten the livelihood of anyone, or otherwise harass anyone. Do not send email, snail mail, phone, fax, or other messages to anyone if your intent is to threaten or harass, and do not encourage others to do the same. Do not take your disagreements off the message board and into the "real world," and do not do anything to try to harm or harass any member of this message board in the "real world." SikhSangat will not responsible for any member's action BUT we will provide member's details and online activity to police officials if requested by law enforcement. This is fair warning to all members to think twice before posting. We may inquire with our legal advisors before releasing private information to such officials. We will not share any information with Indian officials on any issue at all. We will give on real example. Office from London Police contacted us to inquire about member's activity. He provided his credentials and we validated/confirmed his credintials by calling his office. He wanted to check on ip addresses the member used during past few weeks. This was the case where young bibi ran away from home and parents were concerned about her safety. Officer contacted us and we gave them access to our system to complete the formality and help Sikh parents.

25+ replies are pending/hidden in this topic and we pulled this thread down 2 times for reviewing purpose. Please refrain yourself from attacking others and do no involve personal attacks or use words such as 'cultish' etc. If one is trying to express his/her opinion in this thread then please do it one reply rather than repeating it in all replies. Keep every reply unique and respectful.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh For the next few days we will be working on cleaning up old inactive members and tweaking few settings and we will bring up the new fresh face for our forums. We are also working on bringing up the new simple forum rules and guidelines. Our current registration process is in dying stage as new members have to wait for days in order to participate after initial registration. We are working on that to improve the wait time from days to instant. Let us know if you want anything particular on our forums that need to be changed. Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

We will figure out and try to relax on closing threads too early. We won't close threads anymore based on whether topic been discussed on forums before or not. Proactive ji, Both admin and mods can edit any posts/replies only if it goes against forum rules other than that they or we don't have any reason to edit them. If you wish, please edit your post and send me the pm and we will take it from there.

Fateh You are not doing anything wrong. To fix the time out issue of of the things we turned off was notifications as when a new topic is posted the forum starts emailing everyone. I will hopefully restore this functionality soon. Admin.

that topic has been deleted. which is why you are seeing the error.

applied some updates last night and rebooted the server. Then fell asleep. Logged on to Sikhsangat at work to find it was offline. The mysql server had not come online which is why the site was offline. Restarted the server and all is good. Just letting everyone know. admin

Yes, but the new topic creation takes atleast 30 seconds. I will raise it with Invision.

Post should be ok as the, post button gets hidden once you click. I will look at the new topic creation. However I am hoping the new patch has fixed these issues.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/69672-timeout-issue/ Pls check this announcement. http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/69672-timeout-issue/#entry562712

Fateh Everyone, We have been working for over the past few weeks, pretty much everyday to sort out the timeout issue. With the help of forum software provider, we have applied few fixes. Hopefully these will fix the issue of timeouts when new topic were being created. If you experience this issue still or any other issues, please let us know. Admin

Since recent update of this forum, our sewadar is working with forum makers to sort new topic timeout problem. Sewadar is putting hours to solve this problem. We will announce once we solve this problem.

we will let you know whether to allow your post or not. Meanwhile please take a look at our rules regarding this particular subject : http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/9119-forum-rules-guidelines/#entry548295

Please avoid any comment which can hurt the sentiments of those who had satkaar for him. It is natural to disagree with the parchaar of certain folks, but lets not turn this into yet another thread where even someone who has died is not spared comments that smell of judgement.

Please try again, I had commented out some bbcode parsing code as i have a suspicion that it could be slowing the topic creation down :ohno:

All, we just upgraded the forum to latest version in the hope that it would fix the issues caused by the last release. Please report any issues here. Admin.

We are aware of the above bugs as our last forum upgrade didn't go well. We are planning to upgrade to the stable forum version in few days.

Neo Singh, please check PM.

Very good question and here is our clear reply: Nobody from Niddar group ever contacted us regarding the posts/replies made against them on our forums and we don't have any track of such threads. If anyone from their group contact us and want to remove any personal attack then we will delete such threads. However, if they ask for deletion of topics which is questioning their religious belief then that is not allowed. Many contacted us regarding promotion of Niddar group on our forums, so we made this rule few months ago. We have so many sub-forums, hundreds of new topics opening up and it is not humanly possible for us to preview every single topic/post/reply, so we typically take action only after getting "report this post alerts" or other various communications such as pm/emails etc, We been contacted by a person last year who wanted to remove posts/threads attacking his personal character from posts made almost a decade ago. We removed them and helped them as soon we got their email even though the communication from one side was very hostile and bringing legal threats again and again.

I guess we are not still clear here Let me give it another shot at this. luckysingh veerji, We are here talking about one particular situation where one side is some members of jatha and other side is one person we mentioned in our original post. You may not be aware of this situation but recently, war of words are flying between them; on facebook and now some are bringing it on our forums or already brought it here since last week. So, we wanted to be clear to them that this forum will not tolerate that. We are getting numerous emails/pm about this and we want to put an end to this. Now your question is whether this forum is akj or majority of them are from this Jatha. Majority of our Forum sewadars are not attached to any jathabandi and that is one of our core belief in order to run independent non-biased forum. We do have our own set of rules not leaning to any jathabandi. We do respect them to the maximum level and do not allow any kintu parantu on any jathabandi known as panthic jathabandi.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh Despite our various attempts of deleting topics relating to one particular person who is not a member of this forum, we would like to make our stand clear. We do not want nor welcome any post/topic/reply promoting or attacking person named 'Kamalroop'. We do not want anyone (whether it is our veteran member or new member) to use the platform of SikhSangat to talk anything relating to this person. Please do not take an offense from our standpoint but we do not care who you are or how bad you want to write or talk about any particular person. Our forum is not made to talk about other person's character or create a fan base of anyone here. We want this forum to be used as a platform to discuss issues rather than getting into personal wars. To both sides, we do not want your agenda to be promoted here. If you have topics not involving personal attacks then that is more welcome, but other than that, take it somewhere else. To those who still do not understand our standpoint: We will not have anyone here talk negative about AKJ nor we would allow anyone from any jatha to attack any individual unless he/she holds a public position (such as politician etc). Those who defy this will go under-moderation without any notice. Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

Please keep it clean. Topic now open after deletion of some replies.

Can someone point us to the 'Locked topic' link so that we can take a look at it and find out why it was closed. We will try to assign one volunteer on a duty to hear and solve such issues. Thank for you this ^^. We also noticed this trend for the past few months (if not years). We will discuss this with other sewadars and how to bring more change to our system.