Akalifauj
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1 minute ago, Sat1 said:
Read the passage I posted about totally covering yourself. You really need to evolve spiritually and stop being shallow.
I have no problem providing detailed response to that post. I have question for you. Can you read and understand Gurbani in Gurmukhi? This question is important because the English translation doesn't accurately translate what Gurbani is saying.
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2 minutes ago, Sat1 said:
Oh my gosh I actually can’t do this with you. Did you not thread the part about clothes not going with you in the end and being burned to ashes. The same goes for all clothes Einstein including burkas and full length clothing as you dictate.
This is why you can't understand Gurbani. You make up stuff in your head and say it is Gurbani. Guru Sahib said those who wear clothing thin as air are fools. Guru sahib described the type of clothing he is talking about. To twist Guru sahib words is disrespectful. Guru Sahib is saying to those who wear clothing thin as air, their clothing will not go along with them, so don't be so arrogant to believe your clothing are special. Those who wear respectable clothing by Sikhi standards do it to follow their Guru. They are not arrogantly wearing those clothes as those who proud themselves of wearing thin clothes to show case their bodies.
Also you are having a hard time understanding the shabad by bhagat kabir ji, which speaks of shaven heads and long hair. Someone else or myself can help you understand it better. Let me know if you want help.
You are taking this discussion personally and swearing.
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2 minutes ago, Sat1 said:
Good God. It also says that man can shave his head or have his hair unshaved, it makes no difference.
Making up false stories about Gurbani is very disrespectful.
understand that your outer appearance doesn’t mean or make you shite. It’s the internal that matters.Gurbani says those who wear clothes thin as air/wind are fools. So your philosophy is wrong and not Gurbani.
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2 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:
It's been a long time since I came out because these message boards are dead. There is very little activity.
Anyway, if you insist on people following such minimal requirements, the Sikh societies will dwindle down to like 2-3 people and will then cease to exist for a lack of people.
Whenever Gurbani is presented that shows the light on the topic. People like you show up and try to play the number game. Well Sikhi has not left this earth after you people tried to scare Sikhs with the number game. Sikh societies will stay as well.
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6 minutes ago, californiasardar1 said:
What is the point of this thread?
99.9% of "Sikh" girls have haircuts. What do you expect they are going to dress like?
If you demand that "Sikh" girls who are active in Sikh societies dress like your grandmother, then each Sikh society will dwindle down to a small group of singhs (maybe one or two token kaurs).
It will be a lot like this message board: very few people on here, very little activity, 90% or more male
The thread made you come out after a long time. So surely the thread has a point.
The quoted shabad in the above post is for those who have respect for their Guru. Teaching is what Gurbani does and sikh societys are run to spread Gurbani and bring more people to Sikhi. Those running the society at least need to follow the minimum requirements. Showing legs and chest is not respectable by Sikhi standards.
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Also those interested in listening to katha on this shabad:
ਮਃ ੫ ॥
Fifth Mehla:ਵਾਊ ਸੰਦੇ ਕਪੜੇ ਪਹਿਰਹਿ ਗਰਬਿ ਗਵਾਰ ॥
ਮੂਰਖ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਬਾਰੀਕ ਕੱਪੜੇ ਬੜੀ ਆਕੜ ਨਾਲ ਪਹਿਨਦੇ ਹਨ,
They wears clothes thin like the air/wind, what a proud fool they are!ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਚਲਨੀ ਜਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਹੋਏ ਛਾਰੁ ॥੨॥
ਪਰ ਹੇ ਨਾਨਕ! (ਮਰਨ ਤੇ ਇਹ ਕੱਪੜੇ ਜੀਵ ਦੇ) ਨਾਲ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾਂਦੇ, (ਏਥੇ ਹੀ) ਸੜ ਕੇ ਸੁਆਹ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ ।੨।
O Nanak, they will not go with him in the end; they shall be burnt to ashes. ||2||SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI - 318
RAAG GAUREE GURU ARJAN DEV JIThe katha is on gurmatveechar.com. http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audio Sant Gurbachan Singh ji katha. Ang 318. Forward the audio file to 17:55 minutes.
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3 hours ago, Sat1 said:
Your real test is looking past the external appearance, because it means nothing. The internal appearance is just as important. Guru Gobind Singh Ji dressed as a Prince, and yet had the heart of one with Nothing. The very fact that these issues upset you so much, show there’s something wrong with you.
A man wearing tight clothing will also attract attention to himself. But if I’m in a Gurdwarra and a man in tight clothing walks in, my first reaction is to have No reaction. Because I’d see him as a brother. A woman in tight clothing, you should see as a Sister.
Any woman, a prostitute, a dancer, Beyoncé. Sister. Other than your partner. The reason being that we are All Gods kids and he loves us Equally. If he didn’t, the prostitute wouldn’t wake up in the morning. He’d deprive her of the sun, her clothes, her life. But He Is everyone everything everywhere, as much as you don’t want to see or acknowledge it. Until you stop seeing women as Objects of desire, you will never evolve your psychology or see females with an equal eye as the Gurus did.
The fault is with the men who fantasize sexually... and women’s envy. The entire Middle East covers up for your reasoning, that men supposedly have no self control. How is that the woman’s problem. The Gurus spoke out against sexism, not condone and encourage it.
Control your Own lust, evolve your own psychology and move forward on your Own path.
ਮਃ ੫ ॥
Fifth Mehla:ਵਾਊ ਸੰਦੇ ਕਪੜੇ ਪਹਿਰਹਿ ਗਰਬਿ ਗਵਾਰ ॥
ਮੂਰਖ ਮਨੁੱਖ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਸੋਹਣੇ ਬਾਰੀਕ ਕੱਪੜੇ ਬੜੀ ਆਕੜ ਨਾਲ ਪਹਿਨਦੇ ਹਨ,
They wears clothes thin like the air/wind, what a proud fool they are!ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਚਲਨੀ ਜਲਿ ਬਲਿ ਹੋਏ ਛਾਰੁ ॥੨॥
ਪਰ ਹੇ ਨਾਨਕ! (ਮਰਨ ਤੇ ਇਹ ਕੱਪੜੇ ਜੀਵ ਦੇ) ਨਾਲ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾਂਦੇ, (ਏਥੇ ਹੀ) ਸੜ ਕੇ ਸੁਆਹ ਹੋ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ ।੨।
O Nanak, they will not go with him in the end; they shall be burnt to ashes. ||2||SRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI - 318
RAAG GAUREE GURU ARJAN DEV JIThanks to poster @puzzled for presenting this shabad that wearing of revealing clothing is wrong by Gurbani standards.
I hope after this shabad, you @Sat1 are content with Gurbani.
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Learning in what historical context Gurbani was said is very important. However, to say without a historical context a person cannot grasp the true meaning of the Shabad is being extreme and forgetting that Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the complete Guru. If the meaning of a shabad cannot be understood without the historical context. Why didn't the Guru include the historical significance with the shabad in Sri Guru Granh Saib ji? The raag was included. We say and its known Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the complete Guru. Nothing needs to be added or taken away. If you follow the Guru, you will attain liberation. There is no uncertainty here. So such blanketed statements cannot be true. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the living Guru. By living i mean, Guru sahib speaks to you through this world. Guru Sahib answers prayers, gives wisdom and gives liberation and no historical context is needed to obtain these blessings.
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On 8/15/2020 at 3:16 AM, Sat1 said:
Have you ever worn a tight top or vest and shorts of said the same of......
in my first post I said there is no ifs here. Wearing of tight clothing that reveal the curves of the body or showing skin, like legs and chest for women is not respectful in Sikhi. And any sikh women who dresses in this way should not be in any leadership role for Sikhi. It is setting a bad example for how a Sikh is to present themselves before Akal Purakh in the world. You can rant and rave about men and women are the same, but biologically, psychologically, and socially men and women are very different.
When it comes to spiritual wisdom from Gurbani. A person who truly practices spiritual wisdom from Gurbani will see the merit in a woman dressing respectfully. She will latch onto the wisdom of the Guru to be compassionate and have contentment. A stable mind by Gurbani standards is a person who doesn't adhere to worldly standards of beauty and fashion. She will adhere to the beauty standard of Gurbani. Exposing particular parts of the body for a women is to attract sexual attention from others. There is no compassion or contentment in such act. So what leadership qualities according to Gurbani can such a women instill in others? None, she is lost in vain pursuits. The audience listening to her will not take her seriously according to Gurbani standards and the men will be busy fantasizing about her sexually and women will be busy envying her on looks. If a women wants to be respected according to her Guru's standards. Then don't expose skin like legs and chest or back and don't wear clothing that will expose the shape of the body. Don't do it for parents or husband or society. Do it for the Guru. That's who counts. At the end, society can't save you from death or pull you out from the clutches of dharamraj. Only Guru Sahib will look at your compassion, contentment, and dedication to him and pull you out of deaths reach.
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On 8/13/2020 at 3:08 AM, jkvlondon said:
the world is already burning in hellfire of its actions Guru Ji came to put out those fires and establish raj of Khalas -the pure
Do you have a time and date for when this will happen?
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On 9/22/2019 at 7:57 AM, kcmidlands said:
What he said, people need to focus on their own journey instead of trying to fault others, if they want to dress like that then that's up to them, if your offended, don't look, you can make all the assumptions you want but you don't know them or who they are, also, take a look at Indian history and what women (and men) used to wear throughout the ages.
Yes people need to focus on themselves. However these girls are representing Sikh societies in university. They need to act and dress in a way that does not show bad behavior. Dressing to highlight and reveal legs and chest is not respectful in Sikhi. Wearing tight clothes to show case the body is not acceptable in Sikhi. There is no ifs here. Its hard to be a Sikh and being a Sikh carries a lot of weight. So does being a surgeon, but you wouldn't want a unhygienic and 25% pass surgeon operating on you. So why is it acceptable for women that don't respect the way Sikhs are to dress leading Sikh university society's? A body death at the hands of a surgeon is a temporary removal from this world. However death of the soul at the hands of these women is an absolute death.
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12 hours ago, shastarSingh said:
God/Guru does not want world to burn.
The world is burning due to its own manmukhi activities and these activities r only going to get worse.
Look at the way the nihang singh describes the avtar, "this khanda will hv the power to move oceans and cut mountains. All the armies of the world will submit before Nehkalank avatar"
This is a very angry and hate filled statement by the nihang singh toward the world. He wants the world to burn. Its like the avtar will be the nihangs personal weapon to give them power over the world. Fine take control over this world. Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji says there are worlds upon worlds. His creation is endless. How will the nihangs reach other worlds to conquer them? Which horse will take them there? Once a person realizes there are many worlds. All this becomes immaterial because working to remember Vaheguru becomes that much more important. We realize how small we really are in this world. If you read ang 1403. One message becomes clear. Forget about the avtars and focus on the Guru and Vaheguru. That's the focus of ang 1403.
Do you have a set time, date, and location this avtar is coming? I want to warm up my popcorn in time to watch the battles like watching a marvel movie. Obtain couple of drones to capture all the action live.
Guru Nanak Dev ji gave people the straight goods. Do a, b,c and Guru Sahib will have mercy on your soul. What have the Sikhs done. "I can't wait till this avtar comes and takes over the world. The avtar will squash sgpc and I will get my akal takht back." This is such childish thinking. The nihangs have become so petty.
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12 hours ago, shastarSingh said:
even bhai sahib randhir Singhjee has written that this tukk in bhattan de swaiye is a future vaak that Nehkalank avatar will come.
Can you provide the recording or writing?
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59 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:
Nehkalank also has a different meaning. Also tell the sangat here what Guru sahib is saying on that ang.
What is it with these nihangs who want to see the world burn. Sri Guru Gobind Singh sahib ji didn't want to see the world burn. Neither did he want to put gurmat on everyone through the sword or any other oppressive way.
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On 8/9/2020 at 2:06 PM, learningkaur said:
I’ve heard and read the same on the other akj forum. It’s the feeling of wanting to fight for justice.
You heard, someone said, so and so baba said, etc. I'm not interested in such talk. I want to know how my Guru describes bir rass.
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59 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:
Every religion wants white people in their ranks. But problem with that is they always try to push the homosexual agenda on the religion they adopt since homosexuality is mainly a white man's disease.
Homosexuality is mainly a white man's disease? White men flaunt their homosexuality more so it may seem so. But other races have similar numbers of homosexuals as whites do.
3ho gurdwara decides to go down this road. Then local sikh sangat should not let prakash of sri guru Granth Sahib ji happen there. Also a rich singh should take the Gurdwara to court. Tie them up into court battles they can't get out of. Put in city complaints against this gurdwara for violating city regulations. 3ho are holding Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji in jail and this requires Sikhs to act. They use Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as a tool to spread their hippy ways.
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On 8/2/2020 at 2:10 PM, Singh375 said:
Who told you to do simran like this?
Satguru Nanak Dev Ji instructed us to do simran by connecting surat with shabad (not breath with shabad). People might tell you to breath in saying wahe and out saying guru, but Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - no where do they tell us this.
Can you tell us where in Gurbani bir rass is defined as an emotion?
It's a very important question. This is the second time I am asking you to give the source.
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9 hours ago, Singh375 said:
Yes Bir ras is an emotion. When you see someone suffer and you get that feeling inside to take action to help. I think it translates as warrior spirit
Care to disclose the location where you found this info? Or did you make it up? New age fake babas are here. I can't wait for what these babas will do.
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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:
I'll respond to your posts like a civilised person when you curb that horrible little habit of yours where you insult someone to make yourself feel superior, because you have no idea how to disagree with somebody without insulting them.
You can respond as you like. It won't effect me. I caught you on a lie. Once that happened, like a little boy you had a temper tantrum. Learn how to be honest. Its black and white. You lied and got caught. Keep on crying. You are a keyboard warrior.
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9 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:
You don't go crying to big daddy media hoping to propagandise, bully, and shame a corporate entity into change.
The guy did not shame a corporation. He actually refused to mention the corporation name so far as others were pleading with him to do it. So you are being dishonest here. Blaming him for something he didn't do. I called a spade a spade. If you don't like it, then be honest next time.
I know of many girls who have been refused a job at a bank because they did not dress the part, didn't show enough skin. The silent policy of refusing ethnic people work based on their dress has been going on for decades now. The sikh making his case public has not done no damage. Such policy exist already. You need to get out more.
You also don't know what he may have said to explain what the turban is to a Sikh. Again you are passing judgment on him based on a news article that didn't capture the full story.
Next you will be saying women should not report sexual harassment/assault in the work place because this will make the company hire less women or no women.
If the company does not create a policy/training regarding Sikhs. This guy should out the company. Outing the company will put more political pressure on the company. You are scared of the World. You really need to get out more.
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3 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:
You don't go crying to big daddy media hoping to propagandise, bully, and shame a corporate entity into change.
Again, he has not stated which corporations discriminated against him. You keep lying to prove a point. Dishonesty is your middle name.
Go cry somewhere else.
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On 7/22/2020 at 9:08 AM, singhbj singh said:
ਪਉੜੀ ॥
Pauree:
ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਹੋਇ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰੇ ਤਾ ਸਾਈ ਕਾਰ ਕਰਾਇਸੀ ॥
One, upon whom the Merciful Lord bestows His Grace, performs His service.
ਸੋ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰੇ ਜਿਸਨੋ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਮਨਾਇਸੀ ॥
That servant, whom the Lord causes to obey the Order of His Will, serves Him.
ਹੁਕਮਿ ਮੰਨਿਐ ਹੋਵੈ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ਤਾ ਖਸਮੈ ਕਾ ਮਹਲੁ ਪਾਇਸੀ ॥
Obeying the Order of His Will, he becomes acceptable, and then, he obtains the Mansion of the Lord's Presence.
ਖਸਮੈ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਕਰੇ ਮਨਹੁ ਚਿੰਦਿਆ ਸੋ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਇਸੀ ॥
One who acts to please His Lord and Master, obtains the fruits of his mind's desires.
ਤਾ ਦਰਗਹ ਪੈਧਾ ਜਾਇਸੀ ॥੧੫॥
Then, he goes to the Court of the Lord, wearing robes of honor. ||15||
You have not understood Gurbani. Go back to the basics. And its looks like you are very delusional because you want to come off as a person who knows the hukam of Vaheguru, but you don't even know the basics.
You sound like the people who attach current mistakes to past karma(unknown acts). Gurbani teachings to be in the present; focus on task being done now. Be mindful of what you are doing. Yet, teaching others to keep worrying about what they did in their past life, which they don't know what it was. Is the wrong direction. What does it mean to be present? Be compassionate in the way you operate yourself in life. Don't do acts carelessly. If you do, you will miss out on important details and this may cause a mistake to happen. Don't think or act based on your desires. Gurbani is the guide and let Gurbani direct you in the correct direction.
If you live in this way, you will understand the hukamnama you presented is not tied into the worlds current situation because you think it is. In this incident you have made your mind supreme and the hukamnama as subordinate.
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21 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:
And neither are under any obligation to tolerate us. They struggle to treat their native people with decency, what makes us think we'll fare any better? It's so embarrassing when we start crying and complaining about discrimination.
Only person crying is you. Read the story. He didn't even tell the name of the company that discriminated against him. Hes trying to resolve it by putting a little bit of pressure by making it public. It's a great tactic in today's world. He's not crying. Bringing awareness to discrimination is not crying or embarrassing. Hes shining a light on it and so did our Sikh Gurus and Gursikhs.
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23 hours ago, sunder said:
Hi there! Silly of me to comment so out of the blue. Yes, as I was saying, I can’t seem to find any simran videos that are without background music ....I prefer just the voice and nothing else. I find any music quite distracting. Tbh, even the paat videos have some kind of distracting music in the background. Sometimes the person who is doing the paat is so fast that you don’t even understand what they are saying. It’s very difficult for someone who is new to Sikhi to connect.
Its hard for you to connect to Gurbani? Sorry to say but it's not Gurbani fault. You have not let go of whatever you are holding on to in the world. You have not given yourself to the Guru. You may be doing many things wrong. As a newcomer you should be contemplating over shabads and studying Sikh history. I can read a chapter and put the book away and not think about it again. Maybe something in the environment will remind me of something in the book but that's bh chance. This is how we do NOT contemplate over Gurbani. You sing it and think about the shabads throughout the day.
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Why are very unclothed girls running university sikh societies?
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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So you are not willing to answer my question? That makes me think you cannot read Gurbani, but rely on English translations. Why would a person who can read Gurbani in Gurmukhi not answer the question. Let me know if you want to answer the question.