MisterrSingh

The moment a doctrine is diluted causing it to splinter off into various offshoots is the beginning of the end. The end may arrive hundreds of years into the future, but make no mistake the countdown has been instigated. In this instance we aren't unique, but as one of the youngest faiths which had an opportunity to forge a path of originality, we should have had the foresight not to succumb to the pitfalls that older faiths have fallen victim to over the centuries. There's no excuse for it. Schools of thought, etc., I understand, but humans being humans these strands eventually invariably slip into personality worship. It's inevitable and disingenuous to pretend religious leaders and "saintly" personalities don't derive some form of pleasure or thrill from being venerated by their sycophantic followers. And thus begins the practice of sitting on gaddis that are inherited from one generation to the next. 

Looking around me, I'm not even certain the average Sikh knows what Sikhi represents aside from the warped and excessive obeisance and embarrassingly deferential mindset -- that itself  partially originates from the Western liberal Marxist worldview -- that's crept into mainstream Sikh attitudes over the past 40 years. Anyone expressing a desire for Sikh autonomy and strength (in a religious sense) and a clear delineation between our and other faiths is rounded upon as a fringe figure or someone going against the teachings of the faith. When these voices become the overwhelming mainstream, it'll be apparent to me that the damage will be irreversible. 

In summary, the leadership stinks; it's out of touch and corrupt, and I wouldn't at all be surprised to learn that the highest echelons of Sikh theocracy have been infiltrated by a certain group that has its claws in all major world religions for the purpose of subversion and instigating a rot that will eventually lead to gradual disintegration and disconnect from all things good and spiritual. I'm not playing a guessing game. Discover as I did by asking for guidance and then seeking.

The only positive I can see is that Guru Granth Sahib and Dasam Paatshah's bani is still available to us, and for that reason all hope has not yet been lost.

53 minutes ago, ManSinha said:

I was just wondering if any one from the saadh sangat had insight. 

Behead those who don't believe in God!!!

6 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I have heard about 5G frequency creating problems as well.

David Icke also mentioned something similar.

Took him to be a nutter, but he's been discussing issues that are happening now that he called 15 or so years ago. Of course, those predictions aren't rooted in clairvoyance or the supernatural; it's all about identifying social patterns and trends once it becomes apparent what the overall objective happens to be. I can't say I quite agree with his demonic lizards theory, though.

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

Have read about 5Gs ability to manipulate people's emotional/mental state  i.e. weapon of mass manipulation . latest weaponary is using naad to alter brain function to induce rage/fear/confusion/compliance  on both sides of the curtain.

Hanji, I came across the questionable affects of the 5G frequency a few days ago. If true, it doesn't bode well for civilians. I'm wondering whether WiFi may have similar albeit milder properties. It's verging on tinfoil topi territory, but I wouldn't put anything past these sickos in power. Would a dastaar dampen such signals and frequencies?

It's all tied into the ongoing Chinese expansion into Africa, and the 5G network rollout across certain western countries of which Huawei (the smartphone manufacturer), a Chinese company that is rumoured to be a front organisation for intelligence gathering, is heading operations. The U.S. has tied itself up in the Middle East, spreading democracy (), therefore the Chinese are making the most of the situation. 

37 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Theres a voice msg going around with it and it's apparently related to dehej/dowry. Don't know how true that is

Either way I couldnt watch the whole video, I don't have the heart to watch that kind of sh1t 

Sick. 

Context?

@Prabh108

Take it easy, bro. I can't deal with these continuous red pills. I'm going to overdose if you don't lower the dosage.  

13 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Do you think apnay are getting clued up to these games these days? Especially the younger ones?

No. 

Our community is one that conforms and follows. Even when we think we're rebelling, we're swapping one brand of conformity for another, albeit one less obvious that flatters our ego. The younger generations aren't an exception although they would argue otherwise for obvious reasons.

I kind of think the opposite. The BBC news site is a barometer of the direction in which they'd like public opinion to move toward. The most telling aspects aren't so much the reported news items of a particular day, but more so the "opinion" articles further down the page. That's not to say the featured main news items are placed in their respective places in a random or accidental manner.

Under the guise of subjectivity (and therefore apparently immune to criticism because "it's just an opinion!"), there's laughably obvious agenda forming / pushing narratives being promoted that are mostly focused on LGBTQP+ issues (in recent months I've observed a preponderance of articles normalising and promoting drag / cross-dressing culture and related issues of sexuality as they relate to children); issues of race (promotion of fringe racial theories), and a generally subtle demonisation of traditional, socially conservative values. But to muddy the water and offer a sense of faux partiality, they throw in the odd article that deals with an oppressed female from a minority background (usually Muslim or Sikh) who escaped the so-called horrors of her restrictive and repressive family / community. 

It works on many levels, and it's designed to seemingly flumox the average user, but once you realise the game being played, it's really amusing to spot what they're doing.

Oh vey, don't be Islamophobic. Pakistan humare bhai hai.

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

This particular legislation (it seems)has been designed to break down extended families into nuclear families. 

I think that is the goal.

Great shout. 

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The compliance of good behaviour  is in the wrong place.

The majority of the abuse for daughter -in-laws will be instigated by her mother-in-laws and sister-in-laws.

A lot of these issues are women-on-women .

A cruel daughter-in-law can cause problems for the male members of her-in laws.

This means that women can get away with anything and it is the men's responsibility. 

Potential scenario would be if a mother-in-law causes problem for her daughter-in-law then the men have to clamp down on her misbehavior because he will be financially liable.

He will have to assert his authority which again would be seen as abuse. 

Is it any wonder men won't do anything and just want a quiet life.

There will be consequences. 

The sexual assault and rape clampdown was dead-on the correct thing to do on the part of Indian lawmakers. This proposed legislation seems like a logistical nightmare. It's unworkable to the point where it seems like a move to virtue signal to the West about India's emerging progressive social conscience, and to appease a growing section of Indian society that's in tune with Western leftist values as it pertains to gender politics. I'm not sure how such a policy will fly with what I assume is Modi's traditionally minded and conservative support base. I guess even in modern Indian politics the pretence of Left and Right wings is a pantomime for the masses, and the only genuine path that ensures prosperity, lol, is one of progressive globalism. The authoritarian, patriotic rhetoric most of Indian society seems to have swallowed since Modi became leader is a slick marketing and psychological trick. Fascinating times ahead for Bharat.

53 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

https://www.news18.com/amp/news/india/brother-in-law-can-also-be-ordered-to-pay-alimony-under-domestic-violence-law-rules-sc-2159939.html?

I can see the logic behind it (basically, the state has its sword of Damocles hanging precariously over the head of the male members of the family in order to threaten them into good behaviour and compliance), but legislation that holds so much potential for abuse is amazingly short sighted. I suppose certain types of societies require a radical approach to induce their populations into behaving themselves. Another victory for the feminists, lmao. 

18 minutes ago, puzzled said:

These people are very active on social media as Well, I remember a few on YouTube, they used to write comments on nearly every sikh video, insulting sikhi and questioning. Same questions and insults copied and pasted on every video. 

They are paid to do it. Like I said, it's not random weirdos trolling in their spare time for kicks. For years I baulked at the idea of it, thinking it sounded too much like a dodgy conspiracy theory, but having read up on the way information is weaponised in this information and digital age, it's clear that there's an official apparatus to these operations.

Due to these activities being relatively new as technology has progressed over the past few decades, it makes sense that controlling the flow and content of information on the apparently "lawless" internet is arguably more important to nation states and certain powerful factions than similar social and ideological engineering executed on television, radio, and other legacy forms of entertainment.

I mentioned it a few months ago that the way to gradually chip away at the Sikh faith is to alter SGGS Ji while "disappearing" current birs under various contrived situations. That's why it's important to keep a very close eye on the content of the birs being produced as of the past few years.

This is important work. I'm glad you're devoting some time to this issue. Understand that there are people who are employed full-time to carry out this subtle, barely perceptible editing of history. It's not a random act by a bedroom dwelling enthusiast or activist. It's usually an operation with a purpose directed by an official source for various reasons either to push a certain narrative or to mold a pre-existing one to a different agenda over a certain length of time.

Wikipedia is, rightly or wrongly, the first stop on the road of most people's research or information gathering, so when an article contains a certifiable factual error from what's considered to be a generally reliable source of information, if that error is not rectified it eventually becomes the new truth. That's how you change the past so that it reflects the intended future narrative. Sikhs are so incredibly behind the curve on this front.

It's a Silent War, the weapons being information, because that's exactly what's occurring in these situations. 

20 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Now coming back to the topic , I had told her that day that your parents have never called me "beta" . Either she   told it to her parents, or as she's saying that she told that to her sister and she in turn told her parents. Today while talking to her dad, he didn't reply to my Sat sri akal , forget abt calling me son, then he said "You say we don't call you son" . So I said well , I think of you just as my parents.

And then he said "ya sons will be sons " trying to imply here that ur a damaad , so u will behave like one. But then perhaps realized his slip of tongue and said quickly "but damaads are just like sons, infact better" . 

I honestly found him a lil rude , and I am always shocked at the way he conducts himself , considering he has achieved very little in life . And we didn't take any dowry or anything like that from them, they did not cooperate to have the wedding location shifted to our city even when my cousin had threatened to file a case on us and stop my marriage. Her dad said to my dad back then "We will only have marriage in punjab. rest is ur choice" . 

Her mom was nice though and called me 'beta' for the first time in life lol . I never understood why punjabi women are such notorious gossipers . pure trash 

Why are you fishing for respect? If it doesn't come naturally to them, is it really worth anything if it needs to be demanded? See, that's the kind of mentality that a banda wouldn't give two hoots about in all honesty. Obsessing over such trivialities is a female trait. Is your mother putting these thoughts and perceived micro-aggressions into your head? Stop it. It's not a respectable form of behaviour. It makes you seem weak. Don't get so familiar with your in-laws. Be polite, be honourable and respectful, but don't talk about nonsense like you've mentioned. It's embarrassing, bro. Maintain a respectful distance.

3 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

She has apologized already in front of mom and me. Her parents somehow came to knew abt it and they told her to not cause such quarrels at house. She does realize she has nowhere to go to and that we actually treat her pretty well. She is getting more comforts and facilities here than her paike could have ever provided her ! We have told her repeatedly not to show her anger and she seems to have learnt her lesson , or so it seems

Good, but an apology shouldn't be taken at face value. Usually, resentment simmers underneath the surface for a while, so cover your six (meaning, be careful) . Break her in via Pavlovian conditioning, lol. Have patience. Don't mistreat her or anything untoward, but always ensure you have the upper hand. It sounds like hard work because it is. A wife should be an equal partner who requires little to none of this type of frankly mentally exhausting manner of treatment, not an overgrown child or an adversary, but what can you do when our culture seems to produce these types of individuals.

Bro, don't take this the wrong way, but just because you're Batman, that doesn't mean you can't aspire to be Superman. There doesn't have to be a versus. They can be Super Friends.

30 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

no female naayyii (barber) so how could there be a chance of moonlighting?

Jagsaw said a daayi was a naayi in the Indian context, I didn't say it. 

9 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

I think perhaps you misheard no self-respecting woman would be showing herself to a bloke ... always female Daayii or family member.

Where did I imply she was anything other than female?

42 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

bro hell of a difference between naayii  barber and daayii midwife .... plus vaid were usually considered the medic rather than the naayii unless you were 'low' caste then probably you would be told to go to naayii

I dug out an old dharmac geet about the birth of 1st Guru Ji to ensure I hadn't misheard the lyrics about the midwife who delivered Guru Sahib. It's definitely daayi.

Perhaps they use to moonlight back in those days? Times were tough.

21 hours ago, Guest guest said:

you clearly don't know much about how messed up the indian legal system is.

all she has to do is call the cops and accuse them of extorting a dowry, and they could throw his whole family in jail indefinitely without trial, as well as seize all their assets.

nri's are not immune to this law either.

Then her bluff needs to be called. If she doesn't wish to remain married, then all of the above will obviously come to pass. If she's testing the waters to ascertain how far her in-laws and husband can be pushed before they push back -- and has no intention of walking away from the marriage -- then the husband has room to maneuver and act accordingly. If they behave like apes and cause a pett-siappa the situation is obviously going to spiral out of control. But the biggest mistake was the earrings situation. That was a huge miscalculation. 

Barbers?

4 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Lol sorry for being a lil <banned word filter activated>.

I forgot u live in west amidst christo judeo hegemony. But that doesn't mean you should stop bothering whats happening back at home. 

They're cranking up the pressure, bro. I can see where it's leading, and it's not looking good. Anyway, believe it or not, what's happening back home is, I think, a small part of the bigger picture. It's all connected even though it may not seem it.