MisterrSingh

11 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

The free time during covid made me realize how tacky the punjabi songs are. Like it was like a realization hit me that I was listening to such nonsense filth and seeing people dance like maniacs to them and enjoying it. I cannot enjoy punjabi dance or songs anymore.

Clarity. Your consciousness shifted into a different phase. What was once normal became abnormal. Well done. 

2 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Why? 

I used to think most amritdharis are from there. 

Probably meant majority. Or if he did mean minority then he might have a point. The Malwa and Majha adherents are representing quite strongly, but.. I find it to be incredibly basic. Their parchaar caters to the pendu mindset; the unthinking, obedient, simple, "trust your babeh / know your place" mindset. They're loud and passionate, but they tend to discard the beauty and nuance of Sikhi. Just my opinion.

On 5/1/2022 at 6:15 PM, proudkaur21 said:

Does anyone listen to punjabi songs or watch punjabi movies anymore after covid? I think the last time I heard a punjabi song was like 3 years ago on a radio lol. Do they still have any audience? 

What changed after COVID? Did you get a special vaccine that killed any desire to watch and listen to Punjabi stuff?

Tbf, she should've said 'communism' but she's American so there's that. 

Good. Start sending back some Pakistanis. There's a few Sikhs I'd like to put on the plane with them, too. 

Lol, seriously, as I've said many times, they start off by deporting unanimously bad characters in order to get public support, but as the years go by they use the law to get rid of political opponents.

Unfortunately, this law will be used by foreign governments who'll lean on the UK to target overseas dissidents, because the UK has to go around with its begging bowl for trade and economic purposes. The recent un-personning of Russians is a taster of what's to come. Remember, they always provide a taster of what's to come. It's never an immediate switch from Off to On.

"Who understands, and knows this?"

You've read that wrong, bro. They haven't contradicted themselves or made a blanket statement that everyone is ignorant of their existence.

It's a rhetorical question verging on a lament commonly used in Punjabi compositions. You've heard of the phrase, "Kaun jaane?" accompanied by a throwing up of the hands at the enormity of the situation? It's something vaguely on those lines. It's not a literal statement; it's a device employed for exaggeration.

Although in this particular question, "Who knows and understands this?" places the emphasis on US, the sangat, and asks which of US is cognisant of whether we realise not only that we are the drop, but also that we should, one day, merge with the ocean. Implicitly, whoever realises this truth is on the road to salvation; those who don't, I presume, will remain in ignorance.

9 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

Seeing alot of critics in twitter sm about KA and other charities ..i think we should just give a chance this year to KA maybe they have upcoming projects in Panjab...

Shouldn't be forgetting that they do bring good pr for Sikhs (we live in the west),  and farmer protest ..besides Ravi has been having his health issues last few years..

I have a feeling they will focus more on Panjab and Sikhs because they have the resources and money ..

18 hours ago, proactive said:

It is virtually impossible for Ravi Singh to change the whole strategy of his charity and concentrate on Sikhs, He has become a part of the woke worldview and has created a niche for our people to be mindless drones whose sole aim is to open up a free food stall at the drop of a hat. It is better to focus on other Sikh charities such as Your Seva and British Sikh Council which have been helping our people and are not involved in the constant self promotion that Ravi Singh and Khalsa Aid do. 

Correct me if I'm out of order, but I'm getting the impression that people of Ravi Singh's worldview (Sikhs or otherwise) have created a culture where to be a "true" Sikh is to demote Sikh interests and anything else that prioritises our uniqueness, in favour of a horribly skewed self-effacement that is fed by the spiritual doctrine that we're tacitly encouraged to dilute and play-down so as not to offend those who aren't us. This has to be partly attributable to us having a non-existent powerbase, because Punjab is not that place for us.

2 hours ago, proactive said:

Bhagat Kabir would be a poor example of someone reforming Islam. His Shabads are the most critical of Islamic theology and his most famous verse "Awwal Allah Noor Upaiya" which is used (wrongly) as a solidarity Shabad by those who do not even read it all is an outright negation of the concept of Allah contained in the Quran. 

Even the staunchest critics within this narrow category still identified as Muslims, though, didn't they? Their religious vernacular was couched in Islamic terms; the symbolism and poetry they used made reference to Islamic mythology; they dressed as Muslims; they spoke whatever Islamic-tinged iteration of the local language; their exclamations to God were Islamic, and even their last rites were performed in the Islamic tradition? So why weren't they willing to LIVE the condemnations aimed at their religion that they put down into verse? And you're telling me we can't count them as Muslims?

So, these personalities belonged to the second category I identified. 

2 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

I take whatever khushwant singh says with a grain of salt. Also was he not an atheist?

Atheism and Cultural Jewishness go hand in hand. 

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

If we look at the Hindu and Muslim bhagats, they would be seen as those against their religion rather than loyal to the orthodoxy of their respected faiths. Peer Buddhu Shah himself was made a Shaheed for going against the orthodoxy of Aurangzeb/Islam to assist Guru Sahib. 

Shaheed for speaking out against Islam on purely doctrinal terms (its spiritual fallacies and frailties as a faith), or shaheed for supporting enemies of the ruling Islamic regime? History points to many, many instances where religion was used as an accepted front to persecute opponents of the political state.

In your example, which one is it most likely to be minus any emotion or biases on your part?

13 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

Isnt that a good thing for non muslims lol? 

Good thing for non-Muslims when Muslims are a minority. Otherwise, no.

13 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Kabeer. 

Outliers sent by God to reform but whose efforts are overwhelmed by the majority.

Or a slightly more cynical perspective: individuals who realise the evil and the contradictions of the religion they're born into, but are too afraid to leave or make waves against the status quo, so decide to straddle the fence by nudging for introspection whilst not making themselves enemies of the orthodoxy.

2 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

But doesnt reformation confirm christianity is false. I mean if a religion needs to be reformed then how come it is the truth lol.

Yes, I know what you mean. It undermines the premise that what they originally conveyed as the unalterable Word of God was... altered by Man, lol. They would argue about the Old Testament being the writings of the ancient Jewish Tribes, while the New Testament was slightly more relevant, etc. They've forced themselves into a corner, and funnily enough it's something Muslims laud over them when they say, "Your religion is false because you caved into the pressure to change what you claimed was God's Word. WE Muslims will never do that, hence our religion is the only true faith." The latter proposition on the part of Muslims is philosophically bogus, because them resisting altering Islamic scripture to erase the utterly depraved aspects of it has nothing to do with its integrity as divine revelation. They presuppose it is true, and refuse to question if it may have been demonically or even Satanically derived. 

3 minutes ago, proactive said:

Demonic would the right word for it. In fact in one sakhi Guru Gobind Singh when forbidding the Khalsa from rape in war states that Islam is the religion of Bhoots and Rakshas and that the Guru's path is set on a higher moral plane. 

Since delving into the subject of karma and reincarnation from authentic Vedic sources (not cucked Western interpretations), I have to say my theory is that Islam must be the first religion a soul must "pass through" once it leaves the joon-class of janwars and four-legged creatures (and even from demons and whatnot), and enters the class of human joons. Other religions are far from perfect, but, frig me, Islam is something else. I guess the "lesson" for the soul that a few janams born into Islam provides is to develop a rudimentary form of deference to spiritual authority (that can never be learned from a laissez-faire belief system) even if that lesson comes at the expense of the human conscience.

39 minutes ago, proactive said:

Where is the human attribute that is inherent in most people to help someone who is in distress? I cannot imagine this kind of thing happening among out people. The way that a lot of them rather than helping the girls actually joined in with the abuse shows that this kind of behaviour is inherent in all of them. 

It's not an exaggeration or an inaccuracy to state that a thorough reading of what they claim is the Word of God, is ostensibly why their morals and their minds are in the gutter.

Imagine attributing rape, paedophilia, necrophilia, slavery, and other ethically dubious human acts to divine instruction that's been sanctioned and approved by the supreme heavenly being. 

How much of a sinner is any genuinely believing Muslim to seriously think their "perfect" man performed and sanctioned these acts, therefore they're perfectly permissable for his followers.

Apologists and islamophiles enjoy dragging Christianity into the mud by arguing that Christian scriptures contain similar directives, but these dhimmis choose to ignore something called the Reformation. On the other hand, Islam has been actively resisting any reformation for thousands of years! 

Like I've always said, certain individual Muslims may have performed great feats or achieved great things, but they didn't do so BECAUSE of Islam; they did it IN SPITE OF Islam. Conversely, it's hard to argue the impetus provided to certain individuals to resort to depravity and horror might have manifested itself differently had Islam not been present. Not suggesting other groups have behaved angelically, but that extra "bite" that comes with Islamic belief is almost demonic.

1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

I found Italians in Rome to be rude as well.

I've found Southern Italians and Spaniards in general to be bhainchods. It's probably that lingering Muslim blood from invasions and conversions centuries ago.