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  1. Be discreet and there is no problem for karad kirpan. There must be someone who wants to travel to the US/Canada in Nov or Dec. Please get in touch urgently. They charge for 2 people minimum.
  2. Gurus rejected torture and slavery of all living brings. Thus includes killing or torturing domesticated animals for meat and dairy or performing gruesome rituals like halal. The idea is to live a natural life in balance with nature. If hunting wild animals is part of your food chain and you do so sustainably and with utmost respect then its fine. All parts of the animal must be used and nothing wasted. Only few people have this need. The gurus hunted but were otherwise vegan. The shabad guru is very clear that its all about living naturally and ethically and with utmost respect for all life. The key is to use bibek, or in other words internalise the gurus teachings in the mind. If it's not right or possible to hunt then the body of naturally deceased wild animals may be used, again with great respect and reverence and appreciation. Guru jis shoes, water bottle, miyan, shield, instrument strings, tools etc were made by his own hand from hunted or naturally deceased wild animals. Today However only a small handful of indigenous people have the need for and sufficient respect for mother earth to qualify for hunting.
  3. Thanks for replying. They have fruit, salad and oats available which is good enough for me! Do you know anyone wanting to travel please message your friends.
  4. Am travelling from the UK to US/Canada by cruise liner (ship) to New York and then Amtrack (train) to Toronto, Canada Either November 19 or (more likely) December 15. I have to pay for 2 people even if travelling alone so it makes sense to share. If you want to travel with me please would you urgently message me. Benefit is keeping kirpan and 5 star luxury travel for the same cost as a direct flight. If you cannot afford to split the cost, you can travel with me for free and have a holiday. You can get off in the US or continue on to Canada or elsewhere. I am a Sikh maintaining rehit, nitnem etc. Please pm urgently.
  5. You speak truth my friend. Would you recommend Windlass, something like their Light Cavalry Sabre? I really am looking for handmade sarbloh.
  6. I've been told that the latter slow tempo style is classical/dhrupad/semi-dhrupad but the question remains whether they have the same core basis and whether all ustaads can teach the second type? Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
  7. Sorry for the delayed response to this, I have been off the internet for many months. I disagree with your view as if you consider the situation in the UK (and now Australia), the open wearing of kirpan is not only legal, but to abuse a Sikh or ask them to hide it is a hate crime. It is entirely about educating the general public which can only come through wearing the kirpan openly and explaining when challenged that it is not a weapon. To feel "uncomfortable" with the "other" is not acceptable- it is called racism and/or discrimination. Black people are feared and loathed for simply being black in many parts of North America. This is the same anglo perspective which you're dealing with. It can and must be challenged.
  8. Yes this seems to be the general consensus unfortunately, although one Nihang Singh has promised to find something for me. Any contacts for Sarbloh wale please? I'd like to get some good copies/reproductions made of Guru's puratan shastar and artefacts that are on display.
  9. As opposed to the non-existent evidence for the history as presently taught by the Indians? You're having a laugh aren't you? To understand the situation of women at that time, just look at Afghanistan today. It is a fact that there were almost no women on the hill. Even the official painting of vaisakhi currently hanging in Bangla Sahib shows only men in the crowd. It is a fact that women were initiated alongside men, were present in subsequent panj piare and were great warriors, wearing unisex clothing. I need not provide any sources, these are known facts. As to the fact of the young woman who stood up first, this history has been passed down orally and can be sought from the Guru directly. If you are a Sikh, then by all means talk to the Guru and ask for confirmation. If you are not a Sikh you cannot talk to the Guru and are not eligible for challenging me here.
  10. The backward Indian sardars and sadly many of their foreign born diaspora have deeply rooted cultural baggage which includes patriarchy and treating women as chattel; only worthy for warming beds, cooking, cleaning, raising children etc. This isn't just an Indian thing (South Indians are completely different), nor is it a North Indian thing; somehow the sardars are amongst the most extreme: female child genocide amongst this group is the highest in India considering the high level of literacy. Alternative facts to challenge your small minds: On vaisakhi day 1699, hardly any women were to be seen in the open, for they were barred from walking in public. Of those handful of women, young or old who made it to the hill in amongst thousands of men, all stood up when the Guru called for heads. One old woman was pulled down by her family- they said she had gone mad. A young woman called Shanti Devi was jeered at by men as she made her way to the front; in crude and abusive language they asked for what purpose was she going into a tent with a youthful man? Later on she was raped and burnt alive by her family members for the crime of dishonouring the family. Guru Gobind Singh saw all but could not intervene as if 5 women entered his tent, he would forever be known in Sardar history as a womaniser. Eventually Daya Ram stood up. Women were however immediately initiated into the Khalsa alongside men and panj piare thereon always had from 2-5 women in them. These facts have been suppressed. Another fun fact: Women are stronger and braver than men. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh
  11. There are some techniques to actual simran, one's life needs to be attune to the Guru and one needs to understand the inherent value of simran which comes through the Guru. These three things must happen simultaneously. Some jatha walas worship their founder leaders on the basis of ridhi-sidhi. They claim that these things are testament to the fact that their chap (yes, invariably a man) has done everything right so copy his one low life and forget about the Guru's 10 pure lives. One such greatly worshipped man (now deceased) taught his followers that until and unless they experience this great powers, they aren't doing it right. Sadly he was mistaken: These ridha-sidha are entirely irrelevant. Your mind being washed of its filth is a prize, power and award that only the greatest bhagti can get, for even the ridhi-sidhi so called mahapurakh hasn't been able to conquer his own houmai. Going from being conceited and angry to seeing God in all directions is the Guru's true gift. This is the most basic of truths that the Guru tells. Do a true ardaas and the Guru will oblige. waheguru ki ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh
  12. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh Question for the Raagi Gyanis and Ustaads: I am trying to differentiate between the main raag keertan styles. In the big Gurdwaras, the tanti saaj Raagis sing in a sing-a-long fashion (repeating melody, rapid progress through the shabad). However there is another rarely heard style where the singing is very different: substantive vibrato/voice echo, slow progress- once verse may be chewed upon for a very long time with great emotion and improvisation. Listen to the following two clips which demonstrate this (Man Japoh Ram Gopal - 1 in 'sing-a-long' style and 2 in the 'slow tempo' style). -Are there any names to describe these two types of vocalisation? Is it correct to say that the vocalisation of the latter is a genre such as Dhrupad? -In simple terms what is the difference between the two? Do they have the same core basis? -Can all ustaads teach the second type? Sample 1-Raag Kanra- Man Japo Ram Gopal-Prof Surinder Singh.mp3 Sample 2-Raag Kanra- Man Japo Ram Gopal-Ustad Harbhajan Singh, Balwant Singh Namdhari..mp3
  13. Have no doubt that the armed forces of modern nation states are mere pawns of the political ruling class and the military-industrial complex. They are mercenaries fighting for blood lust, money, fame, ideology and a false sense of patriotism. A Sikh is sovereign and bows only to the Guru. They do not do the bidding of politicians and industrialists. The subtlety of the Gurus messages is lost on many Sardars. Read the Zafarnama: Make peace, not war. Fighting is not glorious, rather it is a matter of sadness that humanity has reached rock bottom. The Gurus spread love, peace and unity even in difficult and testing times. Think of it this way- a mother is forced to discipline a wayward child because he is intent on causing great harm. Will she ruthlessly murder him, or appeal with love, put her body in harm's way and if absolutely necessary, forcefully but lovingingly hold his hand? The Guru did not fight against soldiers on the battlefield, but rather was faced with the difficult circumstances of dealing with his wayward children (read mercenaries fighting for rulers). He healed the wounded and gave them the choice: Love and leave or go back again on the battle field. Many cried and were humbled by these words. Did the Guru try to assassinate the Mughal emperor or instead give their head in sacrifice/ continue to try and make peace till the end? Yet the narrative spun by the Indian sardars (and therefore their diaspora) is the common Old World War philosophy. This is why it is Sant Sipahi and not the other way around. One can only wield the sword if one is a saint and a saint is never angry, never holds vengeance and has no enemies- they love everyone even if the opposing party is trying to kill him. Love ultimately defeats anger and only the sant can perform these actions. What is the point of learning shastar vidhya when you don't know how to fight the battles the world faces today (consumerism, water about to run out, ecological genocide etc)? Fighting is the easy part. What about spreading peace and love amongst the entire world? What did the Sikhs ever do for the various genocides that have killed millions yet beat their chest and cry on the global stage about the thousands that died because some sardars decided to take vengeance? Where are the Guru Tegh Bahadurs of today who would have been first in line to be killed in order to save the drinking water at Standing Rock? The Guru's vidhya is not shastar vidhya but rather pure love. Raising a sword is nothing special- it has been done by drones throughout the ages. This is all a false narrative. You need to re-adjust the lens with which you are looking at the world and your place in it, if you think that there is any relation or usefulness of Sikhs being involved with any nation state's armed forces. The purpose of the Sikh is to usher in a new age of Satyug, where wars have ended, where the cause of conflict has ended. Are you looking at root causes of problems in society and solving them? It is easy to be reactionary, easy to jump the gun and shoot from the hip. It is easy to be an angry ignorant redneck, but it takes Gods grace to be his true Sikh. It is only the Sikhs and not any other other who have access to the ultimate truth. Will they listen? Or will they fall prey to the Eastern/Western Old World philosophies of anger-kill-destroy-glory-falsepride? Bear in mind that I am ready and prepared to die to serve the guru and have been saved from certain death many times including Gun toting Indian Soldiers and Knife wielding Hindu Mobs so I'm not talking through my backside. I'm not a part-time sikh who wears Bana only on a Sunday or for show. Heed my words: Fall at the feet of the Guru and learn. Wipe your mind clean with the shabad and be prepared to change your life beyond your initial comfort zone. Forget about your job, career, friends, even citizenship. Be a Sikh and only a Sikh. Life is too short and precious to waste. Go to Africa. Go to China. Save the world, make it a better place for one and all. Do it now. The Guru knows all. Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh
  14. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh I'm sorry if this is a repeat thread, but I couldn't find any conclusive information elsewhere. I'm looking to acquire genuine puratan shastar in India, the likes of 2-3' shamsheer, tegha, khanda, chakra etc. This won't be for a private collection, not would it be sold on for a profit. What are they likely to cost? Sikhs did also use European made/style cavalry sabres, which are readily available as antiques in the UK etc. These can be easily distinguished by use of carbon steel, a western style hilt and issue markings on the blade. Is it possible to find such antiques in India- many thousands would have been in active service in the 19th century? I'm also looking for good Sarbloh wale to copy/reproduce puratan artefacts. Any contacts for humble and rehitwale sikhs would be most appreciated. Address/personal introduction preferred as daas does not have a telephone.
  15. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh I'm so sorry I missed your post. I have been delayed travelling to Anandpur Sahib to get the measurements. In fact I plan to visit next week. I doubt they will let me touch Guru Sahib's artefacts but perhaps they may allow someone well respected to take measurements. Any suggestions are welcome. From the photos whilst exact measurements are not clear (possibly 7-8 inches blade, 12-14" total), proportions may be deduced i.e. ratio of blade:handle is 4:3 (meaning long handle), handle is quite narrow/roundish and the blade straight curving inwards slightly at the end. The sheath is leather and is long enough to hold the blade and 1/3 of the handle. As an update I ran into an old Nihang Singh who was carrying a puratan kakkar kirpan which was straight. He also happened to have a curved tip knife which resembled the standard taksali kirpan, which he himself said was an arab knife. Some locally made/puratan nihang kakkar kirpans are apparently straight. Exact measurements will have to be taken from the original. It should not be too difficult for good sarbloh wale to reproduce. Any contacts will be helpful.
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