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15 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

 I am gay and married a woman and felt guilty for it

Then expects not to be criticised, if you can't be honest with yourself what do you expect from others.

13 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

She's still going to her peke ! her parents harass us for this very same reason. Despite us telling not to move in pregnancy, she still wants to travel and adamant. AS I SAID , YOU DO NOT KNOW MY WIFE !! 

HER CHALITARS WOULD PUT CHARITROPAKHYAN TO SHAME ! 

You know, after reading this thread (and a few other's you started about your married life and before that) I really have no idea why you got married, i could go on and dissect everything you've said but it's apparent that you really don't care and all you want is attention and for people to feel sorry for your plight.

I will say this though, i understand you looking out for your parents, not wanting your wife to cause them grief, we all want that a son's but our parents aren't going to be around forever, when they've gone your going to be stuck with a wife who you've pretty much gone to war with.

8 hours ago, Wicked Warrior said:

I’m going to wade in here. I’m a doctor. I’ve done my stint in obs and gynae. 

Let’s say you terminate this child and have another one. Baby appears to be born perfectly healthy. Autistic traits don’t show until around age 12 months so it would be that long until anyone would notice an issue. What then? Do you plan to kill your child? 

Termination of a pregnancy is not problem-free either and complications can develop. Would you be happy if your wife died because you pushed for a termination?

Your wife has a right to carry her child to term too. You can either choose to stand by her or run away. At least find out the cause of the fever. 

This, nail on head.

3 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

As a father its my right to not have a child who has birth defects. unfortunately its rainy season here and viral is common 

When everyone who has posted on this topic pretty much disagree's with your stance you should take that as a hint, but you are right, it's your kid, it's up to you what you do, as you've mentioned, it's your "right" as a Father but everything catches up with us eventually, you're no different, instead of posting your life story on the internet you should be supporting your wife instead of blaming her, you should be educating yourself and then you'll realise how common viral fever's are in pregnancy and how easily they are treated.

2 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

she's an adult and will survive the viral fever. I am concerned about the developing fetus you <banned word filter activated> ! 

Nothing but love for your wife i see.

3 hours ago, Lostmessedup said:

Is that your age you stupid vile piece of flith.

So much vitriol and anger from someone so young, did your friends not ask you to play football with them after school, is that why your so bitter.....

23 hours ago, Lostmessedup said:

Well i am uk born and not embrassed so what you gonna do about it smarty pants ?

"Smarty Pants", what are you, 10 years old or something, looking at your spelling i'd say you were closer to 5.

34 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

you're a father of 4 wonderful children. hence its easy for you to say all this.

I was just being prudent ! You think I am not crying buckets of tears ?? i am crying more over this than my wife ever will . but an early pregnancy riddled with long term fever is not an ideal scenario to continue pregnancy. 

are you going to pay for my defective child ? then don't judge me

It isn't easy for me to say, just because a child is born without any defects doesn't mean you won't face other difficulties with them in the future.

A child isn't an object that you can dump because they don't fit you perfect version of the world, my elder sister's son has Autism, she never dumped him, she never looked at him as if he was a financial burden, 

I'm sorry man, but you so full of <banned word filter activated> it's unbelievable, you ask people not to judge you then you go and post all your issues on a public forum, crying more tears than your wife, give me a break, go and speak to women you have lost their children during a pregnancy or at the moment of birth.

1 hour ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

So I told her a radical solution : Lets terminate this and we start afresh from a start page , this time we will be more careful . But this idea was rebuked by her and my parents were repulsed of it . They wanna go with this pregnancy. 

I don't want to invest my time and money in having a child who has birth defects or has autism , ADHD or other weird sicknesses simply because my stupid woman lead an irresponsible lifestyle !

Is it wrong of me to think this way ? I think I was just being prudent of starting a fresh chapter and not creating a child that is at risk of being a liability for me 

As a father of 4 wonderful children i have no words to describe how selfish and self centered you are with what you've just posted, if this is the attitude you have at the moment what kind of parent are you going to be.

Everything you posted is so ill informed it's beyond a joke, go and ask your parent how hey would have reacted if you had some sort of birth defect, how very "Sikh" of you to want to dump your child if it has birth defects.

The fact that you have to ask if it's wrong of you to think this way sum's up what kind of human being you are, how your parents haven;t slapped you half way to the moon is beyond me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

But it is not just social media it is also censorship of our websites and as has been discussed the disappearence or alteration of sikh related information and propagation of false  ideolgies as sikhi. Think it is time to have squads protecting and capturing such activities.

 David is just jumping on the coattails of weapons developer whistleblowers and scientists, besidesthis is tech based on Naad which was revealed and refined by Guru Sahiban .

  

I don't think having a team of people going out and capturing this kind of thing is the answer, who will govern them and at what point do we accept that their version of Sikhi is right and what they are in essence trying to censor is wrong, it becomes a mess after a while.

 

 

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8 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

A couple of videos let's talk about how this affects sikhi and our future, what can we do to avoid slavery like the sheep

Any Video with David Icke immediately sends alarm bells ringing with me, he has made an absolute fortune spreading some absurd stories (have a read of his "The Reptilian Elite" theory).

Ignoring the debate about the health risks around 5G mentioned in the first video, for me, there's a simple solution, switch off from social media, it's like a disease with no cure, I see people walking around in the morning on the way to work with their eyes transfixed on their phones blissfully unaware of what's going on in the real world.

10 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

lol that was a wrestling entertainment promo like Indian version of WWE

Yeah, it was this wasn't it:

15 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

Harry Baweja had a dream from his early days in film making that he wished to make a movie to tell the story of Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s ‘Chaar Sahibzade’ to the audience in India and the wider diaspora.  He took his project to many Producers but was knocked back by all them and was discouraged from making the movie which they said was too risky to finance.  After numerous setbacks Harry Baweja took the project to ‘Ponty Chada’ a well known smuggler in Punjab.  Ponty Chada agreed to finance the Movie without hesitation as he felt this would be a great Seva to his Faith and single handily put up the cash.

 

I have given this example to show that good things can be achieved when we put our prejudices aside work together as a community for the betterment of our Panth.  

 

 

It doesn't make it right though, using your dodgy money to fund a religious venture (be it a film or something else) with the hope that you'll be absolved for your sin's under the guise of seva that is.

The thing is sometimes when people do this it can come back and do more damage to them and more importantly the cause they gave the money to. Mine is a personal opinion, stuff like this doesn't sit well with me, for other's it may be more palatable.

4 hours ago, BhForce said:

Rather, what he's talking about is earning a bunch of money through illicit means (even if they are legal in the country you are in, they may be against the rehit or spirit of our religion). Then you donate a huge amount of money to a Gurdwara, and you become known as the biggest Sikh on Earth.

That's what he's talking about.

Exactly, I don't care what he does with his money in his own time but if he wants to do good for Sikhi then any money that goes in the pot has to be scrutinized.

On 6/16/2019 at 9:32 PM, TigerForce1 said:

I don’t think his wealth or how he acquired it should be under scrutiny.  The fact is he obviously has Sharda as he is willing to financially support causes for Sikhi.  He is the same guy who made the City Gurdwara project possible by financially supporting the Gurdwara Committee.  I also like the fact he supports a Dastar proudly and has a long flowing beard and hasn’t let that hold him back in success.  

I think if you're going to use your wealth to support a religious purpose then you need to show where the money's coming from, the amount of time I've seen people launder money through Gurdware is ridiculous.

9 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Just saw the video of the Delhi coppers beating up the Father and son.

Though I absolutely condemn what the police did as it was despicable. 

The father did not help matters by running back at about 5 coppers especially with his son being in tow where his young teenage son got a kicking. (His son was trying to stop his father).

I will try to link the video, but I think we try to act like the warriors of old but even they would know when to fight back and when to retreat. 

I see this in a few videos where Urban Sikhs in metro areas do bone headed things like this particularly with the police.

There was another video where this very tall Singh choke slammed a copper before he scarpered off on his moped.

It's always this:

"Meh Singh ya, meh Singh yeh" with this puffy chest.

Even a rural pendu Sikh in Punjab is not that dumb to do things like this. 

You can't win as a Sikh in a Hindu majority area where the police is going to be against you. 

If the guy was beaten up by himself is one thing bit the fact that his son got beaten as well is downright irresponsible. 

We have to be smarter than that.

@AjeetSingh2019 you are an Urban Metro Sikh, please explain

 

 

I agree with you in principle, we do tend to have a hot-headed mentality but I think he would have been assaulted by the police, either way, it's just the mentality of the police in India.

When a basic police officer has no chance of promotion and is paid peanuts he's going to do everything he can to top up his salary, unfortunately, in India, it's done by extorting money from the average joe on the street, when the average joe disagrees then this kind of thing happens (all too often), either way, it's police brutality.

On 6/15/2019 at 12:44 PM, imhosingh said:

Is this bloke still being chased by the German government for vat fraud and other countries chasing him for other irregularities? Just goo gle his name with Germany appended. Funny how all this use of trusts happened after the issues. Clever way to protect wealth the use of trusts 

I used to go to the same secondary school as him (he was the year ahead of me), his younger sister was in my class. His parent's ran a chip shop by the school, they were a normal family, he disappeared for a while and then came back a multi-millionaire, to this day i find it amazing that he never talks about his younger years in all his interviews or how he made his money, i could tell some stories but i'm not like that, I've got nothing personal against the guy but to say that all the stuff he does is above board would be a little rich.

2 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

Why the heck are u saying this ?

We are already on our path to have a baby. She's not going to divorce me. That's not an option for her either. I respect her and in the past sympathized with her until she started with her schemes. Remember, I have not yet enumerated her saazishes here 

You ppl are the same men who sprout homophobia and you heterosexuals  created a society wherein it's almost impossible for a gay guy to accept himself let alone find another guy.

You ppl created this situation and when a gay guy finally gives up and gives in to his insecurities and family pressures and marry a woman, you ppl hv a problem with that too.

 

Having a baby doesn't mean married couples don't split up, I've got no idea how old you are but you sound like a teenage brat with half the stuff you've written, the other half sounds like you've been watching too many Star Plus drama's.

If you, for one moment, thought you were gay then you should have been man enough to own up to it and delay any wedding but instead you seem to blame everyone else for your own mess, typical snowflake generation. Your going to have a child, man up and grow up, that woman's your wife, if nothing else the laavan must mean something to you, stop blaming other people for your crap.

44 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Acknowledging the reality of feminine nature and how it manifests in our community amongst a considerable proportion of women is not misogyny.  The worship and veneration of the Feminine is the marker of a dying civilsation. There is a middle ground between the respective extremes of woman hate and capitulating to their destructive nature in the hope of preserving a non-existent peace.

Dulling the senses and labelling people who have a counter view to what's come to be accepted as normal is not healthy for the long-term survival of our people, and more importantly is not healthy for the individual conscience. The idea that fundamentally all people (women) are good people, based on spiritual instruction that disregards the nuance of day-to-day reality, is a dangerous and counter-productive idea that lulls many into inaction and complacency. Some individuals cannot be reformed through conciliation, tolerance, and patience. So what do you propose for those who have no desire to resort to anger, violence, and hate yet find themselves confounded by destructive feminine energy? You cannot advocate a path of non-engagement or appeasement that, nine times out of ten, leads to serious and undeniable problems for the male. Speaking a truth is not violence or hate. You will eventually come to realise this when this principle will manifest itself in an area of existence that your worldview will not seek to dispute. Hopefully, you'll be honest enough with yourself to acknowledge this lesson when that moment arrives.

As for Ajeet, I agree, he shouldn't have married the girl. There's no way this is going to end in any way but tragedy. I genuinely feel for his wife. I think she's in an impossible situation. Her attitude is what it is and does her no favours, but considering the deception under which she's been drawn into, I don't feel comfortable in condemning her. If Ajeet had any nous, he'd make her an ally instead of playing her off against his parents in the hope of... pushing her into a situation that leads to divorce? Who knows.

I've been married for 17 years, i know (in my experience) what women can be like but in the same breath i know men are just as bad, i live a life where, if there is an argument i will always now choose the higher ground and walk away, it's taken me this side of 15 years to get to that point in my marriage.

My annoyance come's when i read countless times on this forum that women need to be told there place and need to be "domesticated" for want of a better word, do we live in the dark ages or something, Sikhi is at the forefront of equal right's (or so i thought).

18 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

honestly never wanted to travel down this road but had no option. I do sometime wonder how I will answer dharam raaj though . its creepy af. but I had little option . its not the malice in my heart 

We alway's have an option fella, just that you've chosen  one that involves hurting everyone around you because your not willing to be honest about things.

9 hours ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

From this thread it's clear women will support women in all their misdeeds.

Charitropakhyan is right I think. Thanks for proving it lol.

And what about your misdeeds, where in Sikhi is it written or accepted to spout the kind of misogynistic crap that i read on these forums all the time, it's a surprise half of you lot are actually married, if someone spoke about your sister's like that would you accept it, but it's okay for you to come online and spill all you family problems out, your not looking for advice fella your looking for support and for people to re-enforce you way of thinking.

I think Dharam Raaj is the least of your problems at them moment.

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

If I had the money on that scale, that would be my first port of call. I'd relocate Afghani Sikhs but obviously not by force. They're welcome to stay in the land of their forebears if they so wish, but for those who aren't feeling it, I'd ship them out and help them set up somewhere where they can prosper.

There was a special on BBC news (Out World report) about Sikh's in Afghanistan, it was heartbreaking watching how they had been persecuted and the kind of stuff they go through.

As far as the money's concerned, it seems like it's going to be a cash grab from all Sikh organizations and jathebania from around the world, be interesting to see how much Peter Virdee put's up himself.

There was a thread last week on twitter about Sikh's in Pakistan and how they are treated, there a link below to one of the article's in the twitter thread (it's an old article so I hope things have changed over the years)

https://www.dawn.com/news/1025160

I read this the other day and couldn't believe what I read, surely the money would be better spent in other way's, I'm all for the promotion and up-keep of religious places.

And Peter Virdee, does so much for charity but his Instagram feed tells a whole different story of ego and private number plates, nothing personal against the guy but he never does anything out of the goodness of his heart, there's alway's a PR angle.

50 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

the nastiness of the police has come forward:

http://www.punjabspectrum.com/?p=12217&fbclid=IwAR0wcBLT3lFt9HRzWVR0j5zJoxSxkd8RHFmayDR63x15vx5M2cwkfay_IGY

I'd like to say this is a surprise but it isn't, like I've already said, the level of incompetence is unbelievable.

9 hours ago, joker said:

Numerous phone calls made, text and emails sent to the BBC, why were they not reporting the story of the Sikh boy trapped in a borehole. Every time they pleaded ignorant of the story. To this day there is not a BBC article on the tragedy. If the BBC had given the story coverage maybe an international team could have got involved and saved Fatehveers life. Why are the BBC anti-Sikh?I Even suggested they could change the facts to suit the BBC narrative..That Putin had dug the hole and the child was a Muslim and the lesbian parents were very upset

How much of the mainstream Indian media covered it, they only started late yesterday and today.

The BBC covering something like this wouldn't have helped one bit, even if an international team did go over there they would have a battle on their hands getting past all the glory hunters and Dera member.

As with everything in India it'll just get forgotten about, a 2-year-old child is dead because of the ineptitude of the authorities there and everyone seeking their 5 minutes of fame, it's absolutely disgusting and make's me sick to my core.

This whole thing just show's how ill-equipped they are when something like this happens, all the celeb's tweeting and posting on Instagram to "Pray for", they just need to go and check their privilege, praying wasn't going to save him, the correct manpower was.

15 hours ago, Prabh108 said:

i vow my descendants will continue to look human, unlike apefaced Chindians.

Racist much.