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Sukhvirk1976

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  1. Love it.. I don't think you would ever understand the esoteric knowledge bestowed upon us.. You want easy answers. You want to outsource your own capacity and understand what truth rather than seek for yourself.. If you did spend some time doing that you would realise that being so dogmatic and exclusionary is not the way of nirankaar!
  2. Enough of this nonsense. If it don't fit it can't be true. If truth is akaal then The application of logic to discern truth is the only way to eliminate falsehoods, you don't seem to grasp the essence of bani if you don't understand that
  3. Baba farid lived 350 years before guru nanak dev ji and Bhagat kabir was born over 150 years, Bhagat ramananda was born before kabir ji I could go on Truth the pursuit of truth is the sikh way
  4. They don't overlap lol try researching going beyond the lazy tropes you want to propagate.. You can shout and bad mouth me as much as you like but you will not find one scholar of sikh history who would agree with you.. Not one
  5. Lol Yeah I should just nod my head at let you speak falsehoods.. I have said nothing against Amrit.. If anything you are by devaluating it I see what you are doing here though, create a outrage and deflect attention away from the fact you don't know what you are talking about.. Right little Donald trump..
  6. No he wasn't.. The compositions of Bhagat farid in the ggsj predate guru nanak.. I know your world may be collapsing around you but it is the truth.. Well established historical fact..! You just want to reinforce your narrow perspective,
  7. Drank Amrit? What physically? Who administered the Amrit? Feels like a Windows pc breaking down.. Computer says no...
  8. No no.. I don't think you understand the concept of shabd guru! Bro don't keep introducing more philosophical terms and expect us to be bamboozled.. You very clearly don't know what shabd guru is
  9. No not kapish.. Let's explore a even more explicit hypothesis, did Bhagat kabir dwell in sach khand
  10. Just making it up as you go along.. Sheikh farid who's compositions are in ggsj preceded guru nanak dev ji by about 300 years.. Yes guru nanak dev ji met the inheritor of the silsila, and further more what about Bhagat ramanand, kabir? Sorry my friend back to the drawing board for I reckon
  11. Just answer the question.. Do you believe that someone can only achieve mukti and dwell in sach khand if as you quite clearly said "of Guru Granth Sahib Ji now" Like I said its easy to cast aspersions on me and not actually clarify.. Just take it on the chin bro..
  12. May I be so humble and suggest that before trying to grapple with deep philosophical concepts and using them as tools to bamboozle people, talk down to individuals and belittle them you yourself spend some time on understanding logic.. SATNAM, making self contradictory statements is a telltale sign of not applying logic and rationale.. Bringing Sargun and nirgun into the conversation about your very clear assertion about mukti, sach khand and how it can only be realised through guru Granth Sahib ji as it is now speaks volumes. Your basic point means that gurus before adi Granth compilation are excluded not to mention the bhagats.. It also means you believe in the exclusivity of knowledge and only those party to said knowledge are able to find truth.. Which sounds remarkably like brahmanism..
  13. So you believe the ceremony itself is transformational, easy peasy... Interesting seems contradictory to the overall principles of sikhi.. I never had you down as someone who would advocate rituals as a path to enlightenment.. I'm genuinely surprised
  14. Sargun, nirgun wow don't even go there.. This is what you wrote based on your articulation here guru nanak dev ji is excluded.. This is your definition not mine.. Don't get all giddy with me because you are incapable of speaking shudh.. Let's just be clear what it is you are saying.. Do you retract your statement of 'guru Granth Sahib now' or does it apply.. If you stick with it then logically you exclude guru nanak dev ji.. I'm just asking it was your proposition not mine..
  15. As I said what sacrifice did they make other than shut a gurdwara down which doesn't seem like something to celebrate.. Behaviour of common thugs some may say..
  16. SATNAM Nirankaar is truth. Guru is truth. It is only through contemplation, study, discipline of thought. Self - introspection is a must.. If you can find a contradiction in a supposition then you haven't found truth but have at least discounted one permutation, one less to consider.. If the logic and rationale does not fit it means you have to have to however hard the pill is to swallow accept until you can disprove it accept that as the best answer. Until through introspection and questioning you can develop a better hypothesis
  17. Please explain your thoughts further.. I am unable to reconcile your position.. First of all the charges they were up against would probably at the worst led to a fine. Secondly how did the media and police misrepresent the protest. A bunch of masked armed men shut down a gurdwara The literature the protesters put out clearly stated that they were protesting against the marriage and made no mention of any misuse of funds. What sacrifice did they make? As far as I can tell they made none whatsoever since they denied protesting against the marriage Thirdly since the acquittal the literature published has been misleading by protesting group not stating at all that the two protesters denied being there against the wedding but rather spinning the story and presenting it as a vindication. I'm sorry but the evidence is overwhelming and clear they didn't have the backbone to stand up for what they believed in.. The penalty of which would have been a fine at the worst Their actions have cheapened and discredited their cause end of
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