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  1. No. If you read the histroy of Guru jis' times and even centuries later, usually marriages were done in childhood. Then when they were old enough to start their grihast jeevan partnership, the bride is brought over to her husbands's house in muklawa ceremony.

    4-5 years engagement is silly. You get Anand Karaj now, and then after university she you do muklawa, that is much more in the guidelines!

  2. On 12/5/2023 at 5:21 PM, Singh1989 said:

    I can see this old post has popped up on feed. 

    I am 34 was 17 when I was blessed with Amrit. Due to my kacha (raw/ uncooked) jeevan I dwell on this; if I had not taken Amrit wouldn't I have enjoyed sex, going pubs and eating meat sometimes? All before the age of 25? Then take Amrit later on in life? And if you have indulged in such activities... ENJOY IT! Why worry about hell / heaven? 

    As an Amritdhari we have other responsibilities; reunion with God whilst in Grisht jeevan. But if you're Non Amritdhari why worry? JUST ENJOY! 

    enjoy losing control of 5 vikaara?  You need to learn to do jhatka bro!!

  3. I forgot to post this during covid. This is alarming as they are trying to portay amritdharis in such a disgusting way, on a hindi drama! The act isn't being done by an amritdhari, but still a sardar type person and the amritdharis are part of the gang that is watching!

    I feel like there was some anti-sikh sentiment and is dangerous as it came to air in 2020, during the big farmer kisaan andolan rallies in Delhi!

    The scene is not graphic and only a few seconds, so kind of NSFW.

    this is on season 1 episode 3! For context watch from 13:50-18:00



  4. Listening to Panjab Radio today. There was a discussion on the Friday topic between 12 - 2pm


    One aunty ji came on and complained about Men with full white beards khulla prakas, wearing gatray, drinking glassy at parties (I presume mostly wedding parties) and throwing money over dancers (I think she said it was dancers). I think she was talking about Ilford mostly, but could be other areas. I think she also complained about them scanning women up and down in Ilford.


    I haven't seen this happening myself, with old men wearing gatray drinking shraab,  in uk or Panjab?


    Can someone on here clarify if this happens often? This aunty ji seemed to imply it's happening amongst some men and family parties at least.

  5. 3 hours ago, BhForce said:

    There was a young Singh from abroad who went to Anandpur Sahib Hola and got into a fight with some Punjabis who were playing loud non-religious music. He had bana and a weapon or two. There were more of them than him. 

    He ended up losing his life.

    Don't be like that.

    Not worth it to fight manmukhs. @californiasardar1

    ਮੂਰਖੈ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਲੁਝੀਐ ॥੧੯॥
    Argue not with a fool. p473

    I still think about that incident now and then, just haven't heard any developments regarding what happened, just like so many other things that have happened in Panjab!

  6. On 2/25/2024 at 8:16 PM, Singh1989 said:

    You can still do paat after meat n alc. Nothing wrong there... just wash yer hands! (Obviously). 

    You wouldn't have been allowed to write that on this forum back when OP posted this 😆 in 2013. These groups confused me as well, and the meat thing was really confusing me about when to do my evening paat, just so much of this stuff came from elders' baggage in the pind.

    Not going to write anything else because the original post is so old.

  7. On 4/28/2024 at 9:40 AM, VSinghz7 said:

    The practise of tying a keski under your main one is now seen as pretty weird (except for a patka), but the small coloured strip inder the pagg is still used as a fashion statement since its pretty visually appealing. And so, people now just tie a small little “kung-fu strip” sort of thing under their pagg to imitate that effect.

    It's the lack of keski which hurts the head when tying a turban directly on the skin/bone. I reckon the lack of keski/boonga and the resulting pain is why some modern panjabi boys stop wearing turbans and cut their kes! 

  8. On 4/28/2024 at 9:48 AM, VSinghz7 said:


    And dont make this a caste thing I’m Rajput Jatt sikh (not an ounce of Tarkhan or anything else) and we all starch our INDIAN style punjabi paggs (patiala shahi), but respect them as our crowns and our literal lives. A respected starch pagg is better by far than a freshly tied one which people just disrespect. And people forget that these are not ready made or pre-tied turbans. You still tie them initially but just of course not as frequently. What’s wrong with that?  When your relationship is that strong with the Guru then you know what he means.

    If relationship with Guru is strong, then kanga is done twice a day, and turban should never be taken off or put on like a hat, there is a lot wrong with that as it is against rehit! maryada is to take off every layer of turban/pagh/dumalla individually, and tie fresh turban each time!

  9. On 3/19/2024 at 8:19 AM, BhForce said:

    Yeah, Sikhs should do bhog of food they eat. But the point of bhog is to only do bhog of food which is fit to be presented to Maharaj. It's not maryada to do bhog of khulla maas and pretend it's OK to eat. It's not.

    Come on, bro, you should know better than to bring this Sakhi into it. Is this Sikh in the restaurant accompanied by Guru Gobind Singh ji? Is he fighting a dharam yudh? Or is he merely filling his belly with the nearest restaurant? 

    Please don't make a mockery of our puratan Singhs' sacrifices by comparing them to lazy Sikhs who eat khulla maas.

    yeh it's true, we shouldn't be lazy and need to learn jhatka shikaar. It doesn't help some of grew up in surrounding areas like Slough and Southall where everyone thought it was super bad for amrit dharis to eat meat, and they were following Sant babas and jathas, and instead the Singhs should have been normalising jhatka just like the recent world war soldiers did. We are trying to rectify this and khalsa should learn jhatka.  But I am just writing about bhog for those that are still learning rehit. As I explained, there are all these negative influences in the panth that talk against rehit, but this shouldn't deter us from taking khanda pahul, no matter what level of rehit we are!

  10. On 3/13/2024 at 11:39 AM, Singh1989 said:

    Yes to the restaurant part... more like party halls: round dining table and shoes.

    DK about other Gurudwara but our own Guru ghar has men n women sitting together/ same line in Langhar halls. This also gets to me sometimes.  


    On 3/14/2024 at 11:20 PM, ChardikalaUK said:

    That is completely normal. This seperation of men and women is only found in western gurdwaras. In India families sit together whether it is in the Gurdwara proper or the Langar hall. 

    In langar it should be common sense for peopel to find a suitable space to sit. Normally in my local Singh Sabha gurdwara, there is enough space to sit, so I am able to find a space with enough space away from other people. There have been a few times, where there has been a lot of sangat and I have been forced onto a table.  In Slough and Southall Singh Sabha, Park Avenue, I will just sit near another group of men unless I am with family, but again there shouldn't be strict gender separation and instead common sense logic.

  11. On 3/14/2024 at 11:22 PM, ChardikalaUK said:

    Who started the men and women sitting seperately in western gurdwaras? you don't see this behaviour in India. Will you complain about that as well? 

    Yeh I could do to be honest. It's not really chardikala to be coming from the diwan hall and then sangat putting on shoes to go langar. I like sitting in the gurdwara with family, and there are spaces for this in bigger gurdwaras such as Slough, Southall, Coventry. In my current local area gurdwaras this is not really possible for weekly sangat, and also not for sangrand and gurpurb. Need to complain about these tendikalaUK practices  to be UK chardikala Singhs! 

  12. Also nobody really got back about gurdwaras being used like restaurants and diners.   Who started this recent tradition of wearing shoes at langar, is it a colonial army thing, did soldiers bring this to gurdwaras?

    It's strange because it was practiced across many uk gurdwaras in the past, yet those who migrated from Panjab would never have seen this back in Panjab gurdwaras, so how did this shoes and tables thing even come about for langars?

  13. On 3/1/2024 at 7:52 PM, v.singh said:

    In an ideal world, Ramgharia gurdwaras would follow Dal Panth maryada. In reality it has become synonymous with the sub caste tharkhan.  

    which goes back to my original post, most gurdwaras are scamming us by using the Ramgharia label.   the amount of monay and trim Singhs that call themselves Ramgharia, is bare disrespectful and just continues the scam!


    There are some Nihang groups which use the misl label nowadays. There should be a group of Nihangs to claim the Ramgharia misl label, and it needs to be taken away from the scammers!  

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