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Pubjab actually has one of the lowest farmer suicide rates in India the neighbouring states have it higher. While Maharastra and central india have among the highest in the country. 1000s die in maharastra everywhere. The mitti is really dry in those parts it also has a odd orange tint to it. Not sure why.

^ Yh Mona Lisa isnt a very pretty lady is she lol never understood why it's such a famous painting

Long time back when I was in School that was the first time I heard about one of these stories. There was a really well known case in our town. Word spread really fast and people started going to the mans house to hear the story. Everyone was talking about it. One of our family friends went and told us what he was saying. He was basically sitting in his house and these 3 figures came in like air through the door. One of them was a white lady that he knew but she had died long back! Then there was another person with an axe and he was murdering the 3rd person who was laying on the floor with the axe! They were basically murdering someone in front him. The guy who was experiencing this was so scared that he said he became paralyzed in fear and couldn't move. He also soiled his trousers .These figures told him that they are gnna come and collect him in so on number of days. The man somehow managed to turn his head towards a portrait of Guru Gobind Singh ji hanging on the wall and the figures turned into thin air and disappeared that very moment. He then passed away on the date that they said they were gnna come back on and taken him. Before this though lots of people were visiting his house to hear the experience. I was like 14yrs old and had sleepless nights because of this!

I think it's better not knowing. I dnt think we are supposed to delve into thinking about that world/dimension Nothing wrong with hearing other peoples experiences? But thinking about it and trying to figure it out best if we dnt lol

Thanks I'll watch it the whole humans coming from a ape just doesn't make sense to me it just goes against the idea of God creating and how we experience Sikhi

Waheguru! Iv heard a few throughout the years as well. Heres one of them. A lady who works with my mum was telling my mum how how mother passed away in Punjab and just as they were about to light the fire for the cremation he foot started moving! They then took her back to the hospital and they put her on the machines and she go back up again. She then told everyone how she was taken to this very dark place, people getting tortured and screaming. She said there are two walls there like a alleyway, very narrow and you have to walk between the walls and its pitch black and its so hot and humid between these walls that you can't breath. Its a long line that every one walks in and then 2 jamdoots came along and said to her what shes doing here and that its not her time yet and that she still has so on number of weeks left. After this experience the lady was telling everyone to do Waheguru simran and that only Waheguru simran can save you. She died after the number of weeks that the jamdoots told her that she has left. I'v heard so many scary things like this! but i'm glad i have it keeps you in check lol

i dnno its confusing evolution is an actual thing like birds of the same species living on different islands have developed different beaks depending on what fruit/nuts are available on the island they live on. Same with humans humans of the same ethnicity who live higher up in the Himalayas have different sized nostrils compared to people of the same ethnicity that live at the bottom of the Himalayas. but this whole ape man becoming human idnt know lol Bhai Gurdas Jis in his vaarns says Waheguru created humans and that Waheguru made us of 5 elements i think it was air, water, fire, earth cant remember the 5th one It also says that at the beginning there was nothing. And if we go by the yugs then Humans also existed in the previous Yugs like in Treta yug not sure if humans existed in Satyug. Maybe Darwins ape man fits in somewhere there lol

Yh they can be really scary i saw a video of them eating a crab alive and a slug one of the most fascinating creatures imo they also dethrone their own queen imagine if we could do that haha

I love this show Peaky blinders The IRA are shown as gangsters involved in smuggling lol but so are the English, Italians, Scott's, communists, Gypsies, Jews and everyone else lol! guy sings song about the Irish

Their like humans lol I used to observe a ant colony in the back of our garden as a kid lol When one used to die another used to carry it back to the nest lol I guess they ate it.

I read from sundar gutka app on my phone and even there its translated as OM

Not sure y but in some of his work the pupil of the right eye(subjects right eye) is slightly wonky or out of position you can see it in his jesus painting as well as his famous drawing of the man the man in this painting represents the universe too he felt the the working of a mans body was in line with the workings of the universe. But i wonder why he made the mans feet in that position its not in line with the rest of the drawing.

yh he was an amazing painter he was what you call a genius talented in so many ways. but like most creative people of his time he was never understood and treated like crap. which is a shame.

and god says "be" and it was but wht do you think of creation of first man adam vs darwin ape man?

yh i just read that part of jaap sahib at yh it says ੳਅੰ ਅਾਦਿ ਰੂਪੇ not sure why they translate it as Om ੳਅੰ the sound of creation/creative energy

Yh thats interesting i'v often wondered why they see it as 24 hours and not a longer period. Back in school our RE teacher used to say how do we know that 1 day means 24 hours and not 1000yrs because i think 1 day on earth is very different to lets say 1 day on another planet. but the muslim/christian kids just rubbished what she used to say.

Jaap sahib says om is a manifestation of waheguru

It's in jaap sahib under bhagvati chnd

Yh that's what I read it's a vibration from the centre

I'm pretty sure in dasam bani it says Om is the primal manifestation of Waheguru.

Bhagat Dhanna Ji Bhagat Dhanna Ji was a Sikh Bhagat born in Dhuan village in Tantr state, Rajasthan, present day North West India in about 1415 From his very childhood, Bhagat Dhanna Ji was very simple, hardworking and straightforward. He always enjoyed the company of saints and scholars. Bhagat Dhanna Ji is shown here serving the needly as well as holy men with devotion regarding them ALL as the embodiment of God.He became a follower of Bhagat Ramanand. In the beginning he was an idol worshipper but at some point realized the futility of idol worship and became a worshipper of Nirgun Brahm. Three [Shabad]s of Bhagat Ji's Bani are included in the SGGS on pages 487, 488 and 695. Bhagat ji was a farmer by trade and was born into a Hindu family. From his early childhood, he was a very simple, hardworking and straightforward person. He enjoyed the company of saints and scholars. He also spent time serving the needy and holy men with dedication and devotion. Guru Arjan dev ji says the following about Bhagat Dhanna Ji on SGGS Ang 488: "Hearing this, Dhanna the Jaat applied himself to devotional worship. The Lord of the Universe met him personally; Dhanna was so very blessed. ||4||2||" SGGS Ang 835: "Naam Dayv, Jai Dayv, Kabeer, Trilochan and Ravi Daas the low-caste leather-worker, blessed Dhanna and Sain; all those who joined the humble Saadh Sangat, met the Merciful Lord. ||7||" SGGS Ang 995: "O my mind, chant the Naam, the Name of the Lord, and cross over. Dhanna the farmer, and Balmik the highway robber, became Gurmukh, and crossed over. ||1||Pause||" SGGS Ang 1192: "Dhanna served the Lord, with the innocence of a child. Meeting with the Guru, Trilochan attained the perfection of the Siddhas. The Guru blessed Baynee with His Divine Illumination. O my mind, you too must be the Lord`s slave. ||5||" The Bhakti movement in India was at its peak in the 14th and 15th centuries. Several men of God who belonged by birth to poor families and the so-called low castes earned spiritual heights and thus gained fame far and wide. Many more from such lower state of society emulated them in pursuit of the divine ideal. Dhanna was also one such devotee of God. Guru Arjan Dev has said that Dhanna heard of the fame of Namdev, saw for himself the spiritual grandeur of Kabir, learnt of the uplifted spiritual and moral position of Ravidas and experienced Sain's mystical oneness with the Lord. All this inspired in Dhanna's heart a deep felt urge to realize God. Bhagat Dhanna was born in a poor Jat (farmer) family in 1415 AD in the village of Dhuan in the Tonk region of Rajputana. He was one of such devotees as remain ever absorbed in God even when they are physically occupied in various jobs to earn their livelihood. It was this deep devotion of Dhanna that ultimately enabled him to have a glimpse of the Timeless Lord even in a stone. Dhanna was a simple-hearted ,and noble person, and he took seriously the advice of a Brahmin to consider the stone, Lord Himself. He was asked by the Brahmin to offer the stone (or the Lord in the stone) sacramental food. When Dhanna found that the Lord in the Act. stone was not accepting the food offered by him, he declared that he himself would not touch the food and remain on fast as long as the Lord did not accept his offer. Bhai Gurdas has narrated (Varan, X.1 3) the entire episode in a beautiful verse. He says; Brahmin used to worship idols And Dhanna went out to graze cows; When Dhanna saw this all He put queries to Brahmin who said: ' We who serves the Lord Gets fulfilled all desires of his heart; Dhanna made supplication to him: 'Give me one (Idol) if it pleases thee Brahmin wrapped a stone in cloth And gave it to Dhanna to get rid of him, Dhanna first bathed the stone, Then offered food and butter-milk; He prayed with folded hands, and Prostrated to persuade it accept the offer; I will not eat a morsel- Food I relish not if Thou art annoyed.' God appeared before the Dhanna, Accepted the offering he made; Innocent love of Dhanna Thus united him into the Lord. A hymn by Guru Arjan Dev included in the Guru Granth Sahib on page 487 narrates the same incident. The concluding two verses of this hymn are as follows; Listening to such happenings, the poor Jat Dhanna too in devotion engaged. The Lord to him manifested Himself-- Such was Dhanna's good fortune. SGGS-488 The determination and commitment of the innocent and pious Dhanna made even the Lord yield, and He had to take the form of Thakur, drink and eat what Dhanna had offered Him. Thus did Dhanna's unwavering determination win, and in consequence of this achievement he felt deeply committed to God. How easy it has been to win the pleasure of God with one's innocence and simple piety. The following verse from the Sikh Scripture aptly applies to Dhanna; In innocent spontaneous devotion comes meeting with the Lord. SGGS-324 There are three hymns of Dhanna in the Sikh Scripture under Asa and Dhanasari measures. In his hymns included at page 487, he says : "O man, you have wasted several lives in duality from God. Body, wealth and material gains are ephemeral. The poisonous effect of covetousness and indulgence in passions have separated man from the Creator-Lord. It is a matter of deep regret that human mind still feels attracted towards such sinful passions. He is so engrossed in realizing material comfort and gains that he fails to experience the importance of Naam-simran (Recitation of holy name). Thus, a man must endeavour to gather the wealth of Divine Name because only such a wealth can help in his spiritual amelioration." In the other hymn (page 488), he exhorts human beings to have unwavering faith in and devotion to God because only these feelings can become a medium for their union with God. Dhanna expresses his unbounded faith in God with the help of some examples. He tells us that God is omniscient. He brings up the smallest insects even inside the rocks. He provides nourishment to the embryo in the mother's womb. Whatsoever happens in this universe is in His will. Man should, therefore, have no fear. He must have love for and awe of God. He is our nourisher, our Patron Father. That is why Dhanna offers prayer (aarti) in eulogy of the Lord and at the same time requests Him that a householder has numerous needs to be fulfilled ; he prays to God for the fulfilment of these needs. He demands a house to live in, a wife to perpetuate the lineage, a mare of good breed to ride on, and pulses, ghee, flour, salt, pepper, etc. to fill one's belly. A hymn by Dhanna under Dhanasari measure on this subject reads as under: Lord! Thy servant am I in affliction. Those that to Thee are devoted, Thou their objectives dost fulfil (Pause) I beg for lentils, flour and some ghee, Whereby may my heart be delighted. Seek I also shoes and good clothing, And grain grown over well-ploughed Land. A cow and a buffalo in milk I seek, As also a good Arab mare. Thy Servant Dhanna then begs also for a wife, a good house keeper. SGGS-695 No man of God other than Dhanna or Kabir has ever supplicated to God with such emphasis for the fulfilment of his material needs. They are fully justified in saying that one can't concentrate on God with empty stomach because the fire of hunger adversely affects both the body and soul. In case one feels unable to satiate one's hunger with food morning and evening even after a day of hard labour, Kabir in such a situation is prepared even to give back to God the rosary he uses for remembrance of His Name. As we have already said, Dhanna had firm and unswerving faith in the omnipotence of God. Dhanna says that man must have full faith in Him. It will be of interest to relate here an incident to reiterate such a faith. It is said that Prophet Moses had deep love for God, and he used to climb up the Mount and converse with God. Once, two gentlemen met Moses. One of those gentlemen ever remained engaged in Divine remembrance and spent his life in righteous and honest manner. The other fellow was given to wine, women and such other vices of passion. Because of such habits he had either no time or inclination towards singing eulogies of God. Both of these said to Moses that he has been meeting and conversing with God quite often and that he has been deeply in love with Him. He should therefore enquire from God in their behalf, whether they would be able to swim across the world ocean. Moses acceded to their request and agreed to put this question to God and also to report back the answer that God gave to their question. However, in their heart of hearts both of them seemed to know the answer. The person given to devotion and righteous labour was fully satisfied that the answer would be in his favour. On the other hand he who was given to wine and women also knew the answer fully well himself. Still both of them waited for answer from Moses. At last Moses met them after a few days and told them that he had put their question to God. Both expressed equal keenness to know the answer God gave him. Moses told that as he asked God if person with noble deeds would go to heaven, He made no reply. When Moses sought the same information about the other man, God told him that a few days ago a heavily loaded camel was going on its way, and it was in excitement. God further told that he saw its mischief (wickedness), got hold of a needle and made the camel pass through its eye. That made the camel quite calm. That is what God said in reply to that question and nothing more. Moses told them that on hearing such a vague answer he began to reflect. He wondered how could such a huge beast pass through the eye of such a small needle. But God had told him only this much and spoke nothing beyond that. On hearing this, the devout person asked Moses that he was right when he wondered as to how can such a huge camel pass through the eye of a needle : it seems obviously impossible. Listening to this the other fellow made an instant reply saying that this can be. Nothing is impossible for God. He can do whatsoever He wishes none can stop Him. Camel is a small thing, and He can, if He so desires, pass a huge mountain through the eye of the needle. This is my firm faith. On hearing this, Moses and the other fellow came to their senses- if He is God, He is capable of doing anything He wishes. We know of the indescribable power of God but still seem to disbelieve it. And this man given to the vices of wine and women knows nothing about Him but still has such a firm faith in His omnipotence. He believes that God is capable of doing anything. This incident made them aware that each and everybody can win acceptance in the Divine court provided he or she has deep faith in Him. God will not be far away then. From the information provided in the preceding pages about Dhanna, it becomes clear that Dhanna was a dear son of God who can ask his Father without any hesitation and with a sort of claim for the f ulfilment of his needs. In fact he knows how to get even the greatest of his needs fulfilled that is perhaps the reason which prompts Mira Bai to say that Dhanna can grow the corn without sowing the seed. We come across some very significant references at several places to the effect that the bhagats are the dearest sons of God. It is also perhaps because of the unique miracles and deep faith of such men of God that Guru Arjan says that such devotees (Bhagats) have made the Lord a family man because they are His loving children. Guru Arjan Dev's verse on this subject runs as follows: Blessed is the birth of the servant of God, Who the Lord, Rewarder of deeds, With progeny has furnished. Along with him all assembled groups attain liberation, As saith Nanak: the Supreme Being, Perfection incarnate, has he realized SGGS-532 The life of ignorant Jat Dhanna (as he him self describes himself as such) was decorated with the flowers of piety, discourses of love, nobility of truth, commitment of faith and the service of the Lord rendered with heart. He lived a life of 60 years and died in 1475 A.D. Some historians believe that Dhanna and Guru Nanak Dev met each other at Dhhan during the latter's first preaching odyssey, but the years do not seem to support this contention. It is now a historically accepted fact that Guru Nanak's first odyssey began in 1501 AD whereas Dhanna breathed his last in 1475. Mankind can easily achieve the aim of God-realization provided it follows the footprints of Dhanna. The life of Dhanna is a clear example in this context, and it serves as a good and worthy guide. Dhanna has been the pride of India's religious history because of his unique spiritual merit.

Really fascinating complex man. His art was a mix of Maths, Philosophy and Science. People are still trying to understand his work and thought. Like some other renaissance artists like Michelangelo, he also questioned Christianity through his art. He was more of a scientist than an Artist. Really fascinating. This famous drawing of his people are still trying to decode. Its a drawing of a mans body with the perfect proportions. He believed the way a mans body works corresponded with the way the universe runs. The angle of the mans arms interestingly are the same as the angle of the Pyramids. For Whatever reason he also wrote backwards like a mirror. The body is broken into 14 parts. Some people suggest that these divisions are in line with the Chakras. Another interesting painting is the last supper. Jesus with his disciples. You can not tell which disciple is who. Whats interesting about this paintings is that most the men have beards apart from one "man" Jesus is in the center of the painting and the man next to Jesus leaning away from him is believed to be a woman, and looking closely you can see it resembles a woman more than a man. This figure is believed to be Mary Magdalene who is the most controversial figure in Christianity. Its long been suggested that she was actually married to Jesus but this was/is considered blasphemy by the Church and no one dared to mention it. The Church has gone as far as calling Mary Magdalene a <banned word filter activated> and through out history has attempted to either erase her or degrade her. The very idea of Jesus having a wife and possibly kids would shatter Christianity. Whats interesting about this painting is that if you cut out the female figure and lean it against the figure of Jesus on the other side then she actually rests her head on his shoulders. You can also see how there is a very strong V shape between the two figures. Openly suggesting Mary Magdalene to be the wife of Jesus would of resulted in public execution so artists used to create hidden messages and meanings in their art, you can find the same in the art of Michelangelo at the Sistine Chapel. It wasn't necessarily because they believed her to be the wife of Jesus but it was their way of questioning the faith and the hypocrisy of the Church. Other drawings. Leonardo da Vinci used to cut open dead bodies for his drawings.