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I've been to many different places of worship in India, and honestly the Gurdware are the most clean and hygienic. The sewadars at the Gurdware are much more polite than the sewadars at mandirs and darghas. When I went to baba Balak Nath jis asthaan, there was a place where we had to worship two male goats, touch their feet and bow down to them, and then we stood facing them while the pandit did some kind of ardaas. The goats didn't care, they were just munching on grass. The problem was that there was goat poo everywhere! and I was bare feet, standing on goat poo and wee! Muslim graves are no different! I've been to this very popular one in Una, Himachal Pradesh. Its a place of worship so your obviously not wearing shoes, and you just don't know what your standing on half the time! At this place everyone was pouring oil over some shrine, and the whole floor was oily, muddy, and dirty. Then we had to tie strings to flags and make a prayer. The old man who was in charge of the flags was so rude, lmao, he was shouting at everyone! He had a go at my mum as well and my nani! my mum got really angry lol! But that's how the sewadars at these places talk to you! I've been to a gau shalla near my mums pind in banga with my mama from Canada. It was really clean! I was surprised. The cows were very healthy, we fed them. But the pujari running the place was a nob. He was sat there on a chair, slouching back, legs wide open and arms folded. He signaled my mama with his hand to walk towards him and bend forward so he could put a sloppy red mark on his forehead. The pujari then looked at me, as in "its your turn now" I looked at my mama, and my mama knew I was very annoyed, he had the "please don't something stupid" look on his face lol. I then looked at the pujari and he was sat there waiting for me to go over, and I did! out of respect for the place and customs in the place! such a rude and egoistical man, It was as if he wanted us to be thankful, when we were the ones that donated several sacks of food for his cows! Don't know why so many people still go to these places. Gurdware are so much more hygienic in India, and the sewadars are polite as well. Before going India I read reviews for tourist attractions, and most famous mandirs and mosques have people complaining that these places are very unhygienic. Lack of hygiene is a huge problem in India.

Cow poo comments are getting red arrows ? someone on sikhsangat probably uses cow products lol

I think I've seen this book online. Does it have photos as well? and there is a page for Sodhi Sikhs? Or maybe I'm talking about a different book ...

lmao, did he just say NASA researched cow dung ?

Who the hell decides to have a cow poo party in the middle of a pandemic lmao

LMAO they're throwing cow dung at each other in the first video ?

Going by the videos of the mass cremations in Delhi, dumping dead bodies on the sides of the roads, and people crying on the streets, It really don't look like a conspiracy. Indian gov is definitely trying to control the narrative, apparently 2800 people died last night, I think the figures are much higher than that! I wouldn't be surprised if around 50,000 are dying every day. Blame the government! they had elections in West Bengal today! Government don't care, they want votes and elections. Also why did the government allow Kumb Mela to take place ? No Oxygen, thousands turning up at elections and festivals, what exactly is the government doing? I hope Indians realize the tyrant they have voted into power.

Stay safe bro. I think the Punjab government needs to get Punjab into lockdown. Otherwise it will spread into Punjab.

Not surprising is it, in the middle of a pandemic, 1000s dying, Indian men are sending d!ck pics to women who offered to help and provide resources. Mark my words, next it will be in the news that doctors and hospital staff in India are abusing female patients.

I think the Vedas describe the earth as a disc? Where does Gurbani say its flat?

Well that's India for you. My mum knows someone whose relative in India died last year during the first wave in India. When they got the body back from the hospital, he had cotton wool stuffed in his eyes, when they took the cotton out his eye balls had been taken out! When they took his shirt of he had stitches on his back, so they obviously took some organs out as well. This is quite normal there. Women go in for operations and doctors end up taking their wombs out without them knowing.

No not Sikhs, random people, but possibly linked to local governments. As hospitals in Delhi and many other cities run out of beds, people have been forced to find ways to get treatment for sick patients at home. Many have turned to the black market, where prices of essential medicines, oxygen cylinders and concentrators have skyrocketed and questionable drugs are now proliferating.

They're charging 12,000 rupees to cremate the dead at the ghats in varnasi! typical Indian behavior, taking advantage of peoples misery to make money. They're selling Oxygen cylinders in the black market.

I have killed the hill Rajas (kings) who were bent on mischief. They were stone idol worshipers, I am the breaker of idols and I worship the one Lord. (Zaffarnama, Guru Gobind Singh Ji)

This is so sad, some guy in Kanpur just dumped his mothers body on the roadside after she died of corona.

Yeah bani has many layers, most people just scratch the surface. Only Brahmgyanis and alike are able dive deep into bani. Its so mystical. From how I see it, the stories of Indian and Abrahamic figures are narrated to set examples of correct and incorrect behavior, to inspire us. For example, Drapadi is mentioned in bani. She was a true devotee of God and when she was about to get dishonored God intervened and saved her honor. Bhagat prahlad is another example, God intervened and saved Prahlad from his atheist tyrnat father. These stories inspire you to have faith in God, that God always saves his devotees and believers. In Chandi Di Vaar Guru Gobind Singh ji says that it was with Akaal Purakh jis blessings that Ram destroyed Ravaan, Krishna destroyed Kans and Chandi destroyed the demons. The bani says that Akal Purakh ji created the demons to destroy the ego of the Gods. I read Chandi di Vaar and I've never felt it is praising Durga, in fact its the opposite, its praising Akal Purakh ji. Akal Purakh ji gave her all that power, earth trembling strength, to destroy the demons, so how powerful must Akal Purakh himself be! With idols, Guru Gobind Singh ji sums it up in Zafarnamah Sahib when he calls himself the "destroyer of idols" I personally believe that all these people existed! I take it all literally. Guru Arjan Dev ji even mentioned Adam! as the father of man kind, but Guru ji says how Waheguru ji blessed him and let him spend some time in paradise. Bhai Nand Lal Ji mentions Moses as someone who strived to get a glimpse of Waheguru Ji. But, for a Sikh, our gurus have made it clear that these people are of no use for a Sikh who is striving to become one with God, but has used their stories to inspire us.

Twitter has removed tweets criticising the Indian government. India looks like hell atm, they've turned parks into cremation grounds, dead bodies flying out of ambulances etc "The removal of dozens of tweets seen to be critical of the Indian government's handling of the coronavirus pandemic is putting people's health at risk and quashing dissent, lawmakers and human rights activists said on Monday. Twitter withheld some tweets after a legal request by the Indian government, a company spokeswoman told Reuters on Saturday. These included tweets from a lawmaker, a minister in the state of West Bengal, and a filmmaker. 'Suppression of information and criticism of government is not only dangerous for India but it is putting people around the world at risk,' said Mirza Saaib Beg, a lawyer whose tweets were among those withheld. 'Freedom of inquiry is an intrinsic part of freedom of speech and expression. These restrictions are further reflective of the weakening of all institutional spaces in India,' said Beg, who is studying at Britain's University of Oxford. India's ministry for information technology did not respond to a request for comment. The country's new coronavirus infections hit a record peak for a fifth day on Monday, rising to about 353,000 cases. There is mounting criticism that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government and state authorities let their guard down earlier this year, allowing big religious and political gatherings to take place when cases fell to below 10,000 a day. 'Questioning the government of India's decision to allow mass gatherings ... where people from all across the country gathered and violated COVID safety protocols ... cannot be called to be violating any laws of the country,' said Pawan Khera, a spokesman for the opposition Congress party, whose tweets were also withheld. The law cited in the government's Twitter request is the Information Technology Act, 2000, which allows authorities to order blocking of public access to information to protect 'sovereignty and integrity of India' and maintain public order. Requests from the government are reviewed under Twitter's rules and the local law, a spokeswoman for Twitter told Reuters. There is a 'lack of transparency' in the government's order, said the Internet Freedom Foundation, a digital rights group in Delhi. 'What is clear is there are more directions being issued across social media platforms in India,' it said in a statement. Twitter has about 17.5 million users in India. In its most recent transparency report for the six months to June 30, 2020, Twitter said it had received 42,220 legal demands to remove content from 53 countries, with most of the requests coming from five countries including Russia, India and Turkey. Earlier this year, the social media giant withheld dozens of accounts on the request of the Indian government on grounds that users were posting misleading content related to farmers' protests near Delhi, aiming to incite violence. But Twitter did not fully comply with the government order to take down more than 1,100 accounts and posts, saying it had not blocked all of the content because it believed the directives were not in line with Indian laws. Following the face-off with Twitter earlier this year, the Indian government unveiled tougher rules to regulate big social media firms that it said were needed to hold the companies accountable for any misuse or abuse. 'We all would prefer free spaces to objectively critique power in the offline as well as online space. However, both spaces are increasingly shrinking,' Beg told the Thomson Reuters Foundation " https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9511529/India-Morgues-run-stretchers-deaths-hit-2-800-day.html

From what I've seen in India, people don't often treat other people like humans. They treat each other like animals. Reminds me when I went to some place of worship, everyone was eating langar and one of the "sevadars" who happened to be a " Singh" started barking at a woman while doing "sewa" started shouting at her front of everyone right across the langar hall, top of his voice. Poor woman was reduced to tears and wiping her face with her chunni, and walked out crying. I was just speechless, didn't know how to digest what I just saw.

Wouldn't say it had any "influence" on the gurus, but the gurus used already existing Indian stories that the average South Asian would have been familiar with, to set examples, e.g Indira committed adultry with Aaliyah and was humiliated in the next world, so don't commit adultry... Or these stories were used to evoke different emotions. Like Durga destroying the demons. Sikhs in those days would sing Chandi di Vaar while marching to war. It's one of reasons why the nagara drum was used, to build up bir rass and confidence. You can compare it to people in the west keeping statues or paintings of Buddha in their homes, it creates a relaxing and calming atmosphere.

Grey haired old ladies get raped while bathing in the Ganges by other pilgrims. 90 year old Christian nuns have been raped. They're animals. Women have been sexually assaulted while protesting against rape by other protestors. Can you believe that! people protesting against rape decide to sexually assault while protesting. I used to feel sorry for the people in that county, but gave up a few years back. The really effed up thing is that even the oppressed communities rape and abuse. Just imagine the amount of rape and sexual abuse that takes place in the slums. Who are you supposed to feel sorry for then ? When the oppressed become the oppressors. Its such a messed up contradicting country. I bet you that the guy that raped that poor girl probably doesn't even have a toilet or running water in his house. Honestly, I gave up with hope in that place years ago.

There's videos of them throwing their kids into heaps of cow dung for good luck, in one case the kid started gagging on the dung so the parent had to step in a save the kid. Hindus in the west are a success story, perhaps one of the best examples, but their counterparts in India still live in the 15th century.

They're depraved animals. That country is beyond repair, it actually is too late to repair that country. Hindu society and culture (India) is just as bad as Muslim society and culture, yet the irony is Hindus complain about Muslim culture, which is why the bjp was created, to tackle Muslims, when they are basically the same! All that corruption and perversion is going to lead to catastrophic karmic consequences. Perhaps another horde of invaders.

16 year old girl was raped by her neighbour, she told her family and they decided to parade her and the suspect around the village. Paraded her around with a rope while people spat at her and beat her. Her family felt she had brought shame onto the family by getting raped. sickening country and sickening people.